You can't be serious - she was nearly full-term!

She was 7 months pregnant when the plane crashed. That's no longer a fetus but a viable child.

Is it just me, or is this the dumbest debate in the history of the show?

If were willing to accept a cover up and conspiracy involving extra planes, dug up dead bodies, and mysterious islands, whats wrong with Aaron being #6?

Those pulling the strings for this cover up, or the survivors, chose Aaron for a reason. Be it unexplained, part of a deal, something the media would love (BABY SURVIVOR!!), etc etc.

Or its just a ploy to get everyone talking/debating, and it sure is working :)

To me, this isn't an abortion debate. As I said in my ETA the last time I wrote, it's about the O6 construct serving the viewer of the show, not the fictional news coverage that might have happened. Aaron matters very little as a character. I dare say Rose and her husband whose name I forget matter more. Now, it may turn out that Aaron is the most interesting character of the remaining seasons. I may decide in retrospect that it was a genius move. For now, it pisses me off. That's why I hope it's not the case.

What do you think is going to be a bigger deal: the rescue of six people thought to be killed in a plane crash, or the subsequent settlement from the airline to those six people?

Six people were rescued. Why is it such a big deal that one of those six is a baby?

It's called science fiction. So they are explaining it in a scientific approach. I'm not sure what statements you're refering to but it was probably in response to the people who were adamant that it was all a dream or they're all dead and in purgatory. Those would not be scientific explanations in nature.


As far as being pissed that Aaron is #6...does it really matter? If they called it the oceanic 5 and didn't include aaron, would that make any difference? The point is that they are the 6 "official" survivors and the real mystery is how they were rescued and why they were chosen over the others.

Well, the thing is, you can't really do much in the way of Aaron's character development since he's just a toddler (unless we get to see the island give him tummy time or something). That's probably what's pissing people off. It represents a lost opportunity for another character that would have a more interesting story.

Having said that, there's probably some really interesting backstory on how Aaron ended up with Kate, so I guess that's what we're waiting for. I don't think it's going to be all that great, though.

:rolleyes: Saying something can be explained through science is not at all the same as saying science fiction. The X-Files can be explained through science fiction as well, as could practically anything. They were distancing themselves from the X-Files comparison by saying their show could be explained scientifically.

As for Aaron being #6, you are reading something into my posts that is not there. I am not "pissed" that Aaron is #6, nor am I saying it would make a difference if they called it Oceanic 5, or Oceanic 5 plus a baby. All I am saying is that the mystery and upcoming storylines will be developed around the identity of these 6 people, and I'm not convinced that Aaron is one of those "special" 6 people. To go back to something I said earlier, we are not yet certain what happened to Jin. There is a reason why Hurley and Sun went to visit Jin's grave. Nobody visited any other character's grave. There is definitely a big storyline behind why Sun is off the island and Jin is ... well, somewhere else.

I didn't mean to only refer to you in that statement. I was just making a general statement to people who are pissed. Sorry for the confusion there.

As far as jin goes, it's only natural that Sun would put up a gravestone in memory of him. She's the only survivor that was married to someone. Everyone else is single and would have no reason to put up memorials for the others. I'm not sure why Hurley would go but it could be that Jin will be killed in a future episode so he would be paying his respects. I agree that this will be an interesting storyline in the future.

We don't know very much of the Oceanic Six's official story, is it possible that they're considered the only 6 that survived the initial crash? In which case the sixth might basically refer to Claire as a sixth survivor, but also Aaron as clearly there's a reason Claire is presumably dead (or back on the island?).

Only the writers/producers of LOST know if Aaron became a person when he was born or when he was conceived. It's not up for debate. This is fiction.

I still don't think it's Claire's Aaron. I think it's Kate & Sawyer's Aaron posing as Claire's Aaron to get the settlement. I think Claire & Aaron are back on the island or dead.

I hope that this is a joke.

He is not. best just to ignore it.

it is completely stupid.
those arguing against aaron are either just doing it for the sake of arguing or
are just taking this much too seriously, especially the couple of people
who are now discussing the fetus part of it.

a baby being rescued from a plane crash would be considered a great story
in the papers and on the tv news.
even more with the baby being born on an island.

aaron was a baby while on the plain, he just wasn't born yet.

In the most recent Podcast on ABC.com Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse (head writers of Lost) confirmed that Aaron is part of the Oceanic 6.

Yes and a few weeks back they said he wasn't. Again, everything on the podcast has to be taken with a grain of salt. They are manipulating the viewer which is fine, it's a very entertaining podcast, I just wouldn't take them at their word.

I understand that it's "natural" for Sun to visit Jin's grave. It's "natural" to do a lot of things. It's "natural" to sleep, go to the bathroom, etc., but fortunately we don't watch them do those things on the show. There's a reason why they showed us Sun and Hurley's visit to Jin's grave. There is obviously some significant story behind what Jin is up to. Until that story is revealed, I believe it's entirely possible that Jin is one of the Oceanic 6.

For example, let's say that Jin is one of the Oceanic 6. We know that Ben keeps tabs on people, and that Sayid is working for him to help/save his friends. So, it's likely that Ben is keeping tabs on the entire Oceanic 6 group. So, they fake Jin's death so that Jin can accomplish some task unwatched. Sun and Hurley visit Jin's grave in order to keep up appearances of Jin's death.

My point in all of this is that it's *possible* that Aaron is not one of the Oceanic 6, because there's a couple of other characters that we can't rule out.

no they didnt.

they just didnt say for certain who the last 2 were.

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sorry but you guys are nuts.

Is it possible that it is Charles Widmore in the casket? I was just thinking about this earlier today and I just have a hunch it might be him.

You are totally correct. I just listened to the only 3 podcasts that they've done this season. During the second one, they raise the question as to whether Aaron counts or not, but they don't answer it. In the last one, the one they did yesterday, they talk about the ABC promo guys sending them a notice as to the promo they were going to do, and the two of them basically said (to us) "Now you know who they are." They have no reason to lie. If Aaron wasn't one of the 6, they would just sidestep the question, like they did the previous time.

Its obvious that the freighter people killed danielle and karl. Right before ben sends them off to the temple he tells alex 'if they knew who you were,that you were my daughter,they would use you to get to me.After the killings alex stands up and shouts 'wait,wait,don't,i'm bens daughter,i'm his daughter.'

According to the closeups of the clipping, do I recall correctly that the man's alias was Jeremy Bentham? I was just reading about a Jeremy Bentham today and parallels could definitely be drawn between what he was famous for - proponing utalitarianism - and Michael's acts on the show. If the New York setting of the suicide and being survived by a teenage son weren't enough to sway you onto the "it's Michael in the casket" bandwagon, here's another possible clue.

That doesn't make it obviously the freighter people. Think of how these two scenarios play out after she shouts out:

1) The people shooting were the freighter people, so they stop shooting and take her hostage.

2) The people shooting were the Others, so they stop shooting and take her to The Temple.

Either way, her getting up and shouting who she was saves her.

Personally, I'm leaning towards it being the Others, who are guarding their secret hiding place. Ben sent Alex with Danielle and Karl with her knowing that the Others would shoot Danielle and Karl, thus making Alex all his again.

ok, but how does it get to that point.