Actually Walt showed that his gift worked off the island in season one. Miles also seems to be able to do 'something' special as well whithout going to the island.

I do agree that I'm just as skeptical about where the show is going though.

Perhaps you're right, but I'm not yet ready to admit it. The Oceanic 6 are supposed to be the surviving passengers of Flight 815. Aaron wasn't born yet. He wasn't a passenger.

We don't yet have an explanation of what happened to Jin. If Jin was #6 and died after returning home, the media isn't going to start calling them the Oceanic 5. So, it is still possible that Jin is #6.

I also believe it's possible that Walt is #6.

Those two theories make just as much sense as Aaron being #6.

I lend no credence whatsoever to what the producers said in a podcast or what ABC showed in a promo clip. How many times do some of you people have to be mislead by those guys and the promos before you start to doubt them? How many times have we seen a promo where, for example, the voiceover says that on the next episode somebody is going to die, and then they show a still shot of Sawyer? We are clearly lead to believe that Sawyer is going to die, but he doesn't. When the show finally airs, the scene that still image was taken from had nothing to do with a shooting.

Um, they did know that, someone else referenced D & L and whotony was assuming they meant Damon Lindelof but put it like that because of the original poster.

Not believing promos - GOOD IDEA. Marketing departments don't know the intentions of the creators when they cut promos, they're just going for whatever will draw attention.

Not believing THE PRODUCERS OF THE SHOW - WTF? If Carlton or Damon say something about Lost, you've got to take that as gospel.

No one on the show has EVER said the the Oceanic 6 were ALL surviving members of flight 815 - that's just what we assumed...

The producers have routinely "stretched the truth" (and that's putting it lightly) in order to maintain the mystery and intrigue surrounding this show. Taking everything they say as "gospel" is naive.

11 pages, and I haven't seen 1 mention of seeing Naomi's butt crack.

"The Oceanic 6 plus a baby!"

Obviously I don't know if we are going to see the rescue, but I would imagine that the term "Ocean 6" would be coined by the news media after reports of some Oceanic 815 survivors are rescued. Their rescue would probably be on live tv while they are together. So they step off a plane or boat and there are 5 adults and a baby. You count them up and get 6.

Doesn't seem too difficult to me. Stop overthinking things. Kate, Jack, Sun, Sayid, Hurley, and Aaron. No Zombie Kate or Hurley's identical brother. It's not Jack's clone or the smoke monster taking Sun's shape and having a baby.

You are preaching to the choir my friend. I fought members here for weeks on Aaron being in the O6 and it's clear that he is.

And I don't think that particular promo said that at all. It said someone was going to die, not that anyone it showed was going to die. I never felt for a second they were insinuating Sawyer (be realistic, they aren't killing off Sawyer, I'd venture at least 1M women watch the show just to see that dude)

All the arguments you make about Aaron I did as well. And as compelling as they are, they are refuted by the simple fact that he is one of the O6.

But if it makes you feel better, know how much I hate admitting that.

What I find ironic is I believe I was the first (on here) to pitch the theory that Aaron was one of the six. I got ridiculed and mocked. Now I'm the one arguing that he isn't. :lol:

That goes to show how every week can change your perspective.

Mike, you and I remind me of "Rabbit Season", "Duck Season". :lol:

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"Elmer season?"

FUD season.

Me too, but it does make for interesting reading! It must satisfy their ego or something to state on a message board that "they" are the ones corrrect and the rest of the speculation is incorrect.

Aaron was in Claire's womb, so he was a passenger on Oceanic 815.

It wouldn't make sense to have Walt as #6. He's already back in New York. There would be witnesses to him already being home and that would raise serious questions. Plus, we don't know how they were rescued. This could be part of Ben's plans. So it would make sense for him to keep Walt out of the Oceanic 6.

The funny thing is that we've seen exactly 6 people from flight 815 in the flash-forwards. No more, no less. So it dumbfounds me why some people keep arguing it just because they hate the idea of aaron being a survivor. This show has lots of mysteries. This is not one of them. And when the producers of the show say this is the oceanic 6, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

As far as the promos go...yes, they are misleading when it comes to spoilers in the next episode. We don't want them to reveal who dies. But when it comes to something we've already seen, then they can be accurate in what they show us. The promos don't mislead us in what we've seen, only in what we haven't seen.

exactly.

Why is Aaron being part of the six rescued people such a tough pill to swallow?

A plane crashed and all passengers were presumed dead. Six people were later "rescued" - Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sun, Sayid and ???. Was Aaron rescued or was he not? Does the fact that he's a baby mean he doesn't count? I think anybody that doesn't want Aaron to be part of the O6 is probably pro-abortion.

Aaron WAS NOT a passenger. They don't put fetuses on the flight manifest.

They rescued Sun's fetus as well, apparently. Why doesn't that count? Hmm?

We'll have no choice to accept it once it's canon, but it's going to be lame canon once it happens.

ETA: What makes it lame is that the O6 shouldn't be some throwaway press reference. It should serve us as fans first and foremost. If there are six survivors, they should be six survivors we actually know and care about. I care about Aaron about as much as some guy who got thrown clear of everyone and has been wandering about on his own for these two months. That would be lame as well.

Was he rescued?um, because Sun's baby was born after the rescue?

What does the flight manifest have to do with anything? He was concieved off the island. He got on the plane via his mother. He was on the plane. As far as Sun's baby, he was not concieved before the plane crash. Therefore, he was never on the plane. He wouldn't be considered a survivor of the plane crash.

If Aaron was on the flight manifest, then Oceanic would have to recognize his presence with the rest of the six when they settled in court. (Sayid mentioned a settlement in a previous episode and Kate's house was pricey.)

If the media's phrase "Oceanic 6" directly identifies the people that Oceanic settled with in court, then Aaron's not one of them. If the phrase only serves to point out the survivors of 815, then Aaron could very well be one of the Six.

Well we can only guess how the whole Kate/Aaron thing played out at this point. I'm sure Kate could sue on Aaron's behalf. Just because he's not on the manifest doesn't mean you can't sue them. When it comes to murdering a pregnant woman, you can be charged with 2 murders regardless of whether or not you knew she was pregnant. Oceanic would have to acknowledge Aaron's existence because he obviously didn't appear out of thin air. Obviously, no one decided to do a dna test on Aaron so I'm assuming that oceanic didn't put up a fight for the settlements. Whether Aaron was one of the parties involved has not been revealed yet. Either way, he would be considered a survivor of the plane crash, thus one of the "oceanic 6."

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I would think more people would be throwing sticks at this plotline:
Michael's story

First of all, the proper term is pro-choice, not pro-abortion.

Secondly, I'm not speaking for anyone else, and I certainly don't want to start a political debate or anything, but you absolutely nailed the reason I don't like that Aaron is part of the O6. Up until this point, LOST has been largely apolitical, but this development brings up the issue of whether an unborn clump of cells is a fetus or a child.

To me, Aaron didn't get on that plane. Claire got on the plane with a fetus inside of her. Thus, Aaron can't be one of the O6, IMO.

I wasn't referring to a specific promo, I was just creating a hypothetical example. Unfortunately, I guess my example was a little too close to an actual promo. My point was simply that promos are always misleading. Although the promos are certainly more misleading that the words of the producers during interviews/podcasts, those guys have certainly proven that you can NOT take their word as gospel. You have to take everything they say with a grain of salt, at best. For example, back when the show first started, people questioned whether this would be another X-Files where nothing is ever truly explained. The producers responded in the negative, and said that everything will be explained through science. Look how quickly that statement was thrown out the window. I'm no scientist, but I doubt giant killer polar bears, black smoke monsters, Desmond's ability to see the future, time shifting, etc. can be explained with science.

At this point I'll admit that there's a possibility that Aaron is #6. However, I still think there's a strong possibility that he isn't. The only "evidence" that people have presented in this thread to the contrary is a statement by the producers from a podcast, and an ABC promo at the conclusion of the episode. I don't have much faith in either of those.