Is it really that far fetched?

Tom said that Michael was being followed and kept tabs on. They know of the effects off the island on people after they leave. He also knew Michael was trying to off himself because of said effects. Is it really that hard to believe that he hit up the closest pawn shop to Michael's apartment beforehand and planted a fake gun to sell to a certain customer? All it takes is a wad of cash and a photo of Michael. "This guy comes in looking for a gun, sell him this one. Here's ten grand for your troubles."

:shrug: Seems more realistic than a magical island thousands of miles away having force controlling a gun.

The freighter people were going to kill Alex until she stood up and said " I'm Ben's daughter". Why would she say that to Ben's people when they know who she is and what she looks like. Those words would be wasted on them but not on the freighter people who have no idea who she is unless she says so. The writers made that a point. She wouldn't introduce herself to people she already knows. Sayid always screws up. his plans also fall apart. remember when his great plan of capturing two of the others by using the sailboat as bait backfired. He acts like he is mr. commando but he turns out to be mr. bean.

Watching the epi again. Why did Libby appear to Michael just as he is about to set off the bomb and tell him, "Don't do it Michael"? Is it his conscious talking to him or is it the black smoke? Music was playing just before she showed up.

Ben just sent the three off to the Temple after telling them all how they're after him. By pointing out that everyone else will be killed once he's captured, I can see how Alex immediately assumed the shooters were from the freighter. It makes good sense.

Sayid had better not effed everything up for the losties by revealing Michael to the Captain. Is this the event Ben brings up later on when Sayid acted with his heart and not his head?

I don't think it has been mentioned but I think that little nugget is supposed to tell us he is #6 of the Oceanic 6. Keeping Aaron out of the running.

You know the whole, "by the end of episode 7 we will know all 6 members" line Damon and Carlton keep feeding us.

Alex has no idea who's shooting at her. She's assuming it's the freighter people. The bigger question is why did they not shoot her before she said anything. She could have been shot just as easily as carl and danielle. But it seemed like they purposely missed her.

I dont really think it is the "island effects" that are bothering Michael at this point. It is guilt. Along with the fact that he his actions on the island had the absolute opposite effects from that which he wanted. Becoming a murderer has kept him from living a normal life and it has alienated him from his son.

Seems far fetched to me. There are a thousand different ways to kill youself. Did he also go to all the pharmacies in the area to tell them to give him sugar pills instead of sleeping pills? Did he also install an air bag in that POS he was driving?

I think at this point we have to accept that there are some sort of "magical" things at play here. We have moving cabins. Smoke monsters. Disembodied whispers. Some sort of wish granting magic box that produced Locke's dad. Time travel.

I'm thinking realism may not be the thing to look for in this show.

I would be surprised if they were Ben's people. Not once during this entire series have Ben's people been that good (or that cold-blooded) in simply killing someone.

You said it yourself, he feels guilty for the people he murdered and can't go on living. The people he murdered with a gun. What better way to end it all than with the weapon that brought him to that point in his life? That doesn't explain the car wreck though and walking away from it fairly quickly afterward.

I'm just throwing it out there. There's about as much substance to this theory as a magical island. That's all I'm saying.

I heard something about who's in the coffin but don't know the details. Maybe someone can help me.

I'm just going to say that I'm REALLY enjoying this season. I totally lost interest during season two when seemingly nothing happened.

Loving the great conversations and theories in these threads, BTW.

I agree with you that a magical island is a pretty lame way to go with this. But I'm just preparing myself because that seems to be the way the writers are going with it right now.

Was there anything to show that Mike's car crash attempt was prior to him getting on the ship? I got the impression that that happens after whatever ends up going on with the ship. The writers had no problem showing us a flashback and flashforward for a 'surprise' with the Jin/Sun episode, so I wouldn't put it past them to have been doing the same thing this week, with both the flashback and flashforward focusing on Mike.

I assumed that Michael's story was linear. It seemed that way to me. He tried to kill himself twice. The first time he survives so he goes and tries the gun thing. But then he finds out that the island won't let him die.

At first I thought it was a flashback back to the season 1 timeline flashbacks. He was in a wheelchair at some point right? It's been so long I can't remember, did they show why he was in a wheelchair? Or am I confusing my Oz with my Lost? :lol: I seem to recall someone in his flashback in a wheelchair.

Unfortunately I just sold my season 1 set so I can't go back to look.

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Yes, I think so, when he got hit by the car and his ex-wife paid for the medical bills.

I think he got hit by a car and busted his legs.

Yeah, that's how I saw it too.

A lot of people in this thread have been debating whether Aaron or Michael is the 6th person in the Oceanic 6. Maybe I blinked and missed something, but why couldn't the 6th person be Walt? When Michael went to visit Walt, he was scolded for the fact that they had to pretend Michael was dead. I don't remember hearing anything to imply that they had to pretend Walt was dead. If Walt is alive and off the island, wouldn't he be one of the Oceanic 6?

Alternatively, although more of a stretch, couldn't Jin theoretically be one of the 6. We know that Sun and Hurley went to visit Jin's grave, but we also know that the date on Jin's grave corresponds to the date of the crash. Accordingly, it should be safe to conclude that they are only pretending he is dead. So, isn't it possible that: (a) he got off the island, (b) was labeled as one of the Oceanic 6, and then (c) they, for some reason, have to act as if he died in order to allow Jin to accomplish something while being undetected by Ben and whoever is watching them. I know it's waaaaay farfetched, but not any more so than other things on this show.

There is no debate. The promo identified Aaron as one of the oceanic six. But it doesn't mean that they are the only people off the island.

There's plenty of debate. The promo also showed Sawyer, who's clearly not one of the Oceanic 6. Besides, when has a promo for Lost ever been accurate?

get over it, aaron is one of the six.

There is absolutely no reason to be impolite.

as he say "all' jack appears then sayid then sun then hurley then aaron then kate.
sawyer does not appear in this clip.