Like the Firefly reference.

If you want a rerun in HD, MOJO is re-airing this episode at 11:00am EST today, and then again at 8:00pm EST on Thursday.

Seeing as the show likes rehashing it's own ideas, we'll probably get 4 or 5 episodes without Nathan before seeing in a flashback that he was actually healed by Peter's blood, only to die in a completely random, insignificant way. Maybe he'll fly too close to the intake on a jet engine or something.

How to fix Heroes, S2.5:

Character-wise:
Less Nikki
No Wondertwins
No Micah
No Micah's cousin
Less Nathan Petrelli
More Peter Petrelli
More Angela Petrelli
More Sylar
Less Hiro (is is becoming annoying to me)
More Elle
Less Elles dad (forget his name)
Less Claire Bennett
Less Wes (West?)
Same amount of HRG
Less mom Bennett
Less Mohinder
Less creepy, overacting little girl who can find people
More Parkman

Plot-wise
Something less grandiose, it doesn't always have to be about destroying NY, or killing 93% of the human race
More fighting in TEAMS
Less "Company" mumbo-jumbo
No more Mohinder/Parkman "My Two Dads" storyline

General
Smarter writing. Plotholes and stupidity are killing this show.

If they want to keep Micah around I think it would be interesting if his mother dying (if she's actually dead) after losing his dad turns him, and he actually becomes kind of an evil genius. Can you imagine the havoc he could wreak with that power? And if you are a hero do you really want to kill or infect him with the virus to strip him of his powers? However if anything they will probably just make him a little bratty and annoying as he cries about his parents.

As has been stated by many people before, the show would improve by concentrating on a few core characters. Expanding the number of characters like this season was not a good idea and also not well done.
From what I read here people by large don't care about any of the newbies.

With all the super powers now on the show, it does feel like anything that happens to a character can easily be fixed later on. Well, unless you blow somebody's head off, that seems to still do it. Though somebody could still go back in time and screw with your shotgun... ;-)

Wrong again Gunde. DL did it with Nikki to get her out of prison, and he did it with that person he saved as a firefighter.

Thinking too much. That's a good one. This is a discussion thread . About a sci-fi show!

Uh, did you miss the first season or something? Peter wasn't "given" the power of regeneration by Adam or Claire, he absorbed it by being near them. He's basically a big sponge for abilities.

Also, DL didn't "give" his power to anybody, it's just that anybody or anything he was touching when he phased would become phased as well. It's like how Hiro can grab people and drag them with him when he teleports or travels through time. He's not giving them his power, he's just pulling them along for the ride.

Exactly. So he now has it. If he had Claire's power, and Claire's power all along was regenerative blood, he has that as well.

i watched the entire 11 episode season yesterday afternoon for the first time. I had no idea the 11th episode was the final one and am pretty disappointed about that.

Overall, was a good- not great- series. The twins & Sylar were getting old. I hope Nikki is gone for good. I could watch an entire series on the Claire Bennett storyline, so I have no complaints about that. And Mikah and his copycat cousin were pretty awesome. Peter Petrelli's and Hiro's storyline are both pretty good as well.

I hope that all the "hero's" eventually get together to take down "the company".

Another note: i couldn't imagine watching this show in non-HD.

Does anyone know when volume 3: villains is scheduled to start airing?

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/video/episodes.shtml

Maybe in the spring... likely next fall. There's a writers strike going on and nothing is going to happen before that's resolved. We're probably done until next season... see you in 10 months.

IMO, If the strike ends before X-Mas they could possibly beginning shooting in late January or early February for maybe a March airing....but that's being generous. Realistically I don't think they can get Volume 3 ready until Fall 2008.

Tim Kring's apologies for the crappiness of S2 in three.... two....

Overall, I think things turned out pretty well. I would, however, gladly traded Monica and Maya for Nikki and Nathan. I'd love to see a cured Nikki out there tearing shit up for the side of good.

Hopefully those characters stay dead, though. The "bringing folks back to life" bit is already old.

Tim Spring?

d'oh!

I finally got around to watching this episode, and this was BY FAR the best episode of the season, and completely blew away last season's finale. They finally added a bit more villianness to Adam, with him wanting to play God. Hiro burying him alive was just shocking and a 'hell yeah!' moment all at the same time.

I wonder who shot Nathan though. I didn't see that coming. And Sylar was at his all-time evilness in this episode, and I loved it. Where as before this episode, I wasn't that sad to see Heroes going on hiatus for who knows how long, but now, I want Volume 3 now.

So why exactly can't Adam break the casket and dig his way out of the coffin? It didn't look like some special reinforced casket. Any damage he does clawing and punching his way out would be healed anyway. Seems like he could do it in less than a few days.

But how much air does he have and can his brain function to keep him alive without oxygen?

He's already done that.

Who knows. But I doubt he wouldn't try, and I'm sure we haven't seen the last of him.

No doubt, I sure as fuck would. I'm just not sure if he'd have a couple of days. Hopefully he did some training over the last 400 years like The Bride.

Yes, but Peter's powers don't necessarily function the same way as the other people's powers do. Claire's powers, for example, seem to be completely reflexive. Other people have to actively use their powers.

Peter's powers vary wildly. In the beginning, he could only use the powers of people who were nearby, and even then it seemed accidental or impulsive. Then Claude taught him how to focus and make conscious use of those powers by remembering how he felt in their owners' presence. So that makes you think Peter's powers are based in part on his conscious mind or emotions.

But even though he had to normally focus to use his powers, he ends up being able to heal completely from being dead when he had glass stuck in his head, so that would seem to make you think his powers are completely reflexive like Claire's, since there's no way he was focusing on using that power while he was dead.

But then if you remember future dark Peter, he'd already absorbed Claire's powers, and even with those powers, he had a big scar down the middle of his face, which you would think would be healed if his powers were truly reflexive. So maybe he chose not to heal the scar? We haven't seen anything to indicate that Claire could purposefully not heal one of her wounds.

My point is this: Peter's powers are pretty much a mystery at this point. It would be fair to GUESS that his blood would have curative properties, but it's just as fair to GUESS that his blood, once removed from Peter, wouldn't retain its curative properties. Acting condescending on either side of the issue doesn't seem to make much sense until we get more information.

I will subscribe to this, well thought out.

Yeah, and again, CaptainMarvel has put far more thought into the show than the writers have...