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Old 11-02-07 | 02:51 PM
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With cdollaz on this one. Pointing out that someone will get far exposes them as a threat, "skeletor" or not. Courtney actually seems intelligent (and funny) and picked up on Jean-Robert's intent, calling him on it.

As for James, I'm still not seeing what everyone else is. He seems like an idiot to me. I hope Todd goes through with the plan to blindside him. After reading Jaime's interview, I feel a lot better about their behavior during the thrown challenge and I can totally see it going down just as she described.
Old 11-02-07 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sven
I dont think they actually took them out of his pants and looked at them though. Otherwise they would have seen the writing and known the one they had was a fake.
Yeah, that's how I took it, also. It was dark, and she found them by feeling the shape through the fabric. They didn't show them taking them out of the pants and looking at them.

My favorite part of the episode was James talking to camera about that and laughing so hard, you could hardly understand him. He was like, "Please, PLEASE let them try to play the fake idol. Please let that happen!". That was hilarious, and I liked his sense of humor.

Of COURSE Jamie is saying NOW that she knew it was fake all along... duhhhh, she doesn't want to look stupid. This is the same girl who thought they were being allowed to pick two from the other tribe, and it never occurred to her and PG that they would have to give up two tribe members. She just came across as not very bright, multiple times.
Old 11-02-07 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by shoppingbear
My favorite part of the episode was James talking to camera about that and laughing so hard, you could hardly understand him.
This wasn't an isolated incident. The people I watch the show with have trouble understanding him every week.

I believe Jaime. The editors are obviously trying (and have been since episode 1) to create an underdog hero in James and most of the viewers are falling for it. James makes it further than Jaime and comes from behind as a result of her just doing what's in her best interest to further herself. From their point of view, there's no reason to show the horrible things James was saying to Jaime and Peih-Gee. By the way, this is not hard to believe, considering the way he talks to and about some of the women on the show. It also doesn't make sense to show Jaime talking about the idol being fake, considering it would have ruined this amazing "dumb blonde" moment the viewers are going nuts over.
Old 11-02-07 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by magiccmom
In the very beginning when they were all lying around and Todd and Amanda were talking about and to JR and Courtney about their problems, and whenever JR talked, Courtney would roll her eyes back into her head, I thought she was dead. Seriously, she would roll her eyes and she looked like a corpse. UGH.
It's obvious by Courtney's private confessions that she doesn't even want to be friends with anyone, which of course will come back to bite her in her bony ass.

And good news, Survivor had its highest viewership last night since the premiere. Last year Cook Island had more people watching, but its viewership jumped all around from 12.5M to 18M and Fiji Island had slightly lower viewership than this year, but it also jumped around.

This year it has had this for viewership:

15.35 14.14 14.14 14.22 14.03 14.19 14.32 (last night prelims)

That's pretty consistant.

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Old 11-02-07 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shoppingbear
It was dark, and she found them by feeling the shape through the fabric. They didn't show them taking them out of the pants and looking at them.
This sounds great when read out of context.
Old 11-02-07 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TwineTime
This wasn't an isolated incident. The people I watch the show with have trouble understanding him every week.
I've noticed that James gets subtitled a lot more in these recent episodes.
Old 11-02-07 | 05:11 PM
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I thought it was interesting that Jeff didn't ask for a hidden immunity idol up front like the past few seasons. Maybe they're going back to revealing it after the votes have been counted.
Old 11-02-07 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MEJHarrison
I thought it was interesting that Jeff didn't ask for a hidden immunity idol up front like the past few seasons. Maybe they're going back to revealing it after the votes have been counted.
Me too. I was actually looking more forward to it playing out like that instead of the way it did. Jeff asking for anyone who would like to play the immunity idol and then Jamie standing up and saying she would like to play it instead of saying "well I found this and I think this could be the idol, and well here it is". Think it would have been more dramatic the other way.
Old 11-02-07 | 05:49 PM
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He didn't say anything about it because it wasn't yet common knowledge that there was an HII. If everybody kept there mouths shut there would have only been about 4 people that knew they even existed.
Old 11-02-07 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TwineTime
Courtney actually seems intelligent
She has tried multiple times to give up her numbers and vote off someone she doesn't like personally, regardless of how strategically moronic it is.

She threw away the trust of the power players in her tribe to needlessly align with the most unlikeable person on the island and guaranteed next one voted off.

She mocked everyone for participating in the opening ceremonies on the first day and immediately expressed disgust for the cultural beliefs of her hosts.

You'll have to help me understand what she's done in this game that has been remotely intelligent, because I have a hard time seeing how someone so strategically inept and so intolerant of others has much going on upstairs. It's to her good fortune that she's completely useless and therefore the least threatening person in Survivor history, but that's not a strategic decision -- she was born that way.

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Old 11-02-07 | 11:23 PM
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Different strokes. I never said she was a strategic genius. People can be intelligent and funny and not know how to play Survivor. She's smart enough to be onto Todd and Amanda, she just doesn't have the support to do anything about it. Her argument against Jean-Robert isn't entirely unfounded. He seems likely to turn against the others if it's in his best interest. She'd do better to make it less about her personally, and more about the danger he poses to the alliance/tribe.

Plus I think she's witty.

Anyway, I don't expect to sway anyone. I've defended maligned castaways before and it never goes over too well.
Old 11-03-07 | 09:59 PM
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I was that JR would just give into his hunger and swallow Courtney whole.
Old 11-03-07 | 10:12 PM
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i thought it was as hilarious as the next guy that Jaime played the non-immunity idol. but thinking about it, it really was worth a shot. she knew she was on the chopping block, so why not take a chance and try?

but what really made it so hilarious was how she was touting her intelligence all episode, and that she KNEW she had the idol, and she couldn't wait to see everyone's faces.

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Old 11-03-07 | 10:38 PM
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I'm not too impressed by Courtney's "intelligence". She's just lucky that Jean-Robert is still around for comparison.

James isn't the brightest bulb either, but at least he's funny. Loved it last week when he was so happy he nearly knocked Todd to the ground with a little love tap. When Todd yelped, James hollering "That's love baby! It makes you strong!" had me .

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Old 11-03-07 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux
i thought it was as hilarious as the next guy that Jaime played the non-immunity idol. but thinking about it, it really was worth a shot. she knew she was on the chopping block, so why not take a chance and try?

but what really made it so hilarious was how she was touting her intelligence all episode, and that she KNEW she had the idol, and she couldn't wait to see everyon'e faces.
I have to wonder what her and Eric were thinking, not checking the other TWO square blocks to see if they were the exact same as the one they had WHICH GOT LEFT ON THE GROUND. Good lord, the lack of food must lower your IQ by a few dozen points. Even though it was dark, they could've used their campfire and would've been able to instantly tell if the HII were the same.

I do wonder what the rules about finding the HII on someone else's person is though. Would they have been able to keep it if they stole it from James without him realizing (it's possible if they switched up, that he may never have looked back in his own bag).

Now the question is, how does anyone get rid of someone with TWO hii? Did he promise to give one back to Todd?
Old 11-04-07 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TwineTime
Different strokes. I never said she was a strategic genius. People can be intelligent and funny and not know how to play Survivor. She's smart enough to be onto Todd and Amanda, she just doesn't have the support to do anything about it. Her argument against Jean-Robert isn't entirely unfounded. He seems likely to turn against the others if it's in his best interest. She'd do better to make it less about her personally, and more about the danger he poses to the alliance/tribe.

Plus I think she's witty.

Anyway, I don't expect to sway anyone. I've defended maligned castaways before and it never goes over too well.
Wait a minute. You're from New York. That explains everything.

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