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GoldenJCJ 05-03-07 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by hardercore
Unlike most of you, I maintain my stance on Jack as a good character and a hero. Whatever he's planning/keeping secret currently with Juliet, it's for the good of the camp. The writers are obviously making the situation look very suspect and making these characters look duplicitous. But how often is it that any character on this show is what they seem? My best guess is Juliet came clean to him with what Ben wanted her to do and has warned him of the impending raid, and that they're currently preparing something to overthrow Ben.

Juliet working alone against our castaways I can believe. But if she's working with Jack, it's not going to be against the people he has been protecting for 90 days. Look for the tables to turn in the finale (just my preditiction, not based on any spoilers).

Agreed 100%. We've seen several times that Juliette is helping Ben against her will and that her true intentions are the same as the castaways (getting off the island). Jack and Juliette definitely have some plans up their sleeve to help the castaways.

All of this is going to have to come out when Sawyer arrives back at camp with the tape.


Also, from what Batmanuel was telling Locke, all this pregnancy/conception stuff was piddly crap compared to the real research potential the island holds. (count me glad about that. Having the entire show revolve around child birth seems uninteresting to say the least)

I'll be looking forward to when the true research is revealed.

GoldenJCJ 05-03-07 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by Robertwoj
I don't think Ben was responsible for the cover up. Otherwise, he would not have sent Walt and Mike off on the boat to leave the island. Their presence to the outside world would shatter that cover-up. If I am being foolish and Ben WAS involved (either planning or simply knowing) of a cover-up, then Walt and Michael were made to believe they were getting off the island and Ben sent them in that particular direction for one reason: to be captured by someone else (the yet-unseen Jacob perhaps?). Maybe Ben made it look like he was sending Michael and Walt home simply to show his followers that he can "keep his word" when he clearly intended NOT to do that.

I'm wondering if Michael and Walt ever even got away. Part of me thinks they're still being held elsewhere.

the Others were too interested in Walt's powers to just let him sail away.

GoldenJCJ 05-03-07 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by superdeluxe
I bet ben dies, and Locke will be the new leader of the Others, definately shadowed yesterday that the others want to overthrow Ben.

But would Locke even be interested in leading the Others? He told Sawyer pretty plainly that he was on his own journey now. Plus, despite the fact that he now considers himself to be on his own, his loyalties still seem to be with the castaways considering he gave Sawyer the tape to reveal Juliette as the Mole.

hardercore 05-03-07 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by porieux
So, is Locke supposed to be super strong now in addition to being able to walk again? Because there is no way he would be able to carry his dad like that without straining a lot more than he was, and I doubt he could carry him more than a few hundred yards. That guy has to be close to 300 lbs. Or maybe it's just one of those 'TV moments'.

1. No way is Cooper the equivalent of 150kgs (it's all metric over here). I'd say, 90 at the most. He took pretty good care of himself for an old dude.

2. Locke carried Boone from the beechcraft back to the caves in Season One. Granted, Boone was probably a lot lighter, but this was just a few days after he had a piece of shrapnel in the side of his leg and the island had taken away his ability to walk.

RichC2 05-03-07 08:22 PM

Haha 300 lbs? Man that's distorted (he looked skinnier than me and I weigh 230). But at least it was 300 - 21 grams.

Snowmaker 05-03-07 09:03 PM

Did anyone else say that Locke should have just cut off his dad's head to take with him?

Jimmy James 05-03-07 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Snowmaker
Did anyone else say that Locke should have just cut off his dad's head to take with him?

I think the ultimatim he got was that he needed to have his dad's body on his back when he followed or he'd might as well not bother. Wasn't that it?

hardercore 05-03-07 09:35 PM

Don't think Ben meant anything that literally, he just wanted proof that Locke had overcome his Daddy Issues by letting Cooper go. "Disembodied Head" would've sufficed, surely. But then again, it's a free-to-air network show and I don't think LOST will go much more gruesome than Cooper's strangling anytime soon.

hardercore 05-03-07 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by RichC2
But at least it was 300 - 21 grams.

:thumbsup: One of my favourite films.

DVD Josh 05-03-07 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by Snowmaker
Did anyone else say that Locke should have just cut off his dad's head to take with him?

Season 2 of 24 anyone?

hardercore 05-03-07 09:55 PM

"I'm gonna need a hacksaw." :lol:

Ah, the days when 24 was good TV.

CharlieK 05-03-07 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
But would Locke even be interested in leading the Others? He told Sawyer pretty plainly that he was on his own journey now. Plus, despite the fact that he now considers himself to be on his own, his loyalties still seem to be with the castaways considering he gave Sawyer the tape to reveal Juliette as the Mole.

I didn't understand that. If he is on his own journey, why is taking his Dad's body back to Ben? Or is he taking him somewhere else?

vegasbaby 05-03-07 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by CharlieK
I didn't understand that. If he is on his own journey, why is taking his Dad's body back to Ben? Or is he taking him somewhere else?

Spoiler:
Preview shows him taking the body to Ben ...

hardercore 05-03-07 10:00 PM

Some are of the belief that spoilers spoil the experience. I can't, for the life of me, tell you why, though.

GoldenJCJ 05-03-07 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by CharlieK
I didn't understand that. If he is on his own journey, why is taking his Dad's body back to Ben? Or is he taking him somewhere else?

I'm guessing that he's on his own journey but he still needs Ben to open the door for him and give him a push.

Jimmy James 05-03-07 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by hardercore
Don't think Ben meant anything that literally, he just wanted proof that Locke had overcome his Daddy Issues by letting Cooper go. "Disembodied Head" would've sufficed, surely. But then again, it's a free-to-air network show and I don't think LOST will go much more gruesome than Cooper's strangling anytime soon.

I really wouldn't want to be stuck with just the head and Ben telling me to go back for the rest because it needed to be burned or some shit. Maybe Locke is just like me and wanted to be careful.

bee_01 05-03-07 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by CharlieK
I didn't understand that. If he is on his own journey, why is taking his Dad's body back to Ben? Or is he taking him somewhere else?

Locke will always be somebody's bitch. Ben is Locke's daddy now that Cooper is dead.

TheGodfather 05-04-07 01:15 AM

I don't think anyone mentioned this so if they did, sorry.

Cooper/Sawyer said he was rear-ended and wound up on the island. Coincidence? I can't say I'm 100% so maybe we could collaborate here but weren't there like A LOT of car accidents/incidents with these people? Correct me if I'm wrongbut so far we've seen:

1. Kate and FBI guy (or was it her farmer friend? I can't remember) flip over.
2. Claire and her mom hit by a truck.
3. Cooper rear-ended by an 18-wheeler.
4. Juliet's ex-husband hit by a bus.
This is where my memory gets fuzzy...
5. Didn't Kate's ex-boyfriend die in a car wreck during a police chase?
6. Wasn't Jack's ex-wife nearly paralyzed in a car wreck before they met and he fixed her?

I can't think of any more off the top of my head but if any of you can remember more or correct me if my am mistaken on any of those feel free.

Could there be a significance to all this poor driving? Or are these instances just more Lost coincidence?

spinning plates 05-04-07 02:05 AM

didn't read the whole thread maybe someone already said this, but how long until locke's dad goes running around the island again like mikhail.

porieux 05-04-07 05:48 AM

I thought the guy looked pretty fat. He certainly has a fat head!

Cardiff Giant11 05-04-07 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by TheGodfather
I don't think anyone mentioned this so if they did, sorry.

Cooper/Sawyer said he was rear-ended and wound up on the island. Coincidence? I can't say I'm 100% so maybe we could collaborate here but weren't there like A LOT of car accidents/incidents with these people? Correct me if I'm wrongbut so far we've seen:

1. Kate and FBI guy (or was it her farmer friend? I can't remember) flip over.
2. Claire and her mom hit by a truck.
3. Cooper rear-ended by an 18-wheeler.
4. Juliet's ex-husband hit by a bus.
This is where my memory gets fuzzy...
5. Didn't Kate's ex-boyfriend die in a car wreck during a police chase?
6. Wasn't Jack's ex-wife nearly paralyzed in a car wreck before they met and he fixed her?

I can't think of any more off the top of my head but if any of you can remember more or correct me if my am mistaken on any of those feel free.

Could there be a significance to all this poor driving? Or are these instances just more Lost coincidence?

excellent point. The same crash that injured Sarah (Jack's ex-wife) also killed Shannon's father.

cracksky 05-04-07 08:41 AM

I don't usually watch the previews but this one I did and wow, it's a fantastic teaser for next week. It's also interesting when you watch it frame-by-frame because they slip in things that only last one or two frames that would be impossible to see otherwise. Last week they had a two-frame image which looked like the Black Rock and indeed it was. There's a lot going on next week for sure!

johnglass 05-04-07 10:57 AM

I missed the preview for next weeks episode, anyone know where I can find it online?

pinata242 05-04-07 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by johnglass
I missed the preview for next weeks episode, anyone know where I can find it online?

Spoiler:
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johnglass 05-04-07 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by pinata242
Spoiler:
<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/hDqNoIokdZw"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/hDqNoIokdZw" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Man you're quick. Thanks!


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