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Old 09-28-04 | 08:30 AM
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I completely forgot something.

I really thought Andy and the lady who played Sarah had some really good chemistry. Or am I alone in this?
I hope to see her backk.

I am a bit confused by Ephrams' hesitation and lack of ga-ga over Amy. I know he got torn this summer by Juliard, but what gives? He was like, "You're the one I want to be with."

Also, I thought the "threesomes" joke was uncalled for. It would have been funny if not for the Madison incident, but if I were Amy it would have pissed me off Especially given their histories from last season.
Old 09-28-04 | 08:53 AM
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If anybody is wondering the song at the end of the ep was apparently:

Love Like That by "Stew"
Old 09-28-04 | 08:54 AM
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9/27/04 Recap

Amy's insecurities get the better of her once again after her school friends convince her that Hannah has puppy love eyes for Ephram. This has Amy bound and determined to find Hannah a guy to keep her off of Ephram. After exhausting all the candidates from the high school, Amy settles on Bright, and, of course, the double date doesn't end all that peachy keen. Amy later apologizes to Hannah for setting her up with Bright, and comes clean with her insecurities to explain why she did what she did. Hannah accepts Amy's explanation/apology and they bond after Hannah makes it clear that Ephram isn't her type, but Bright is (saying "I'm surprisingly shallow.")

After Harold chucks Edna's files out and introduces PCs with database software, Edna decides to confront Andy with these changes, but Andy shortchanges Edna in light of some crisis with a new patient's family. Edna has enough of the madness and quits, and ends up working across the street at Doggie Harvey's office. Andy apologizes to Edna, she accepts, but she doesn't go back to work with Andy, citing her pompous son as the primary reason. Edna recognizes the hurt she put on Harold as a child when she left him and his sister for her career in the army, and Harold has created a world where his mother doesn't quite exist in the role that she should have in his life.

Andy is confronted with a new patient, a boy, with a bum shoulder. His mother is a single mother (Elizabeth Mitchell), and the injury is explained away by wrecking on his bike. Later, X-Rays reveal old fractures on the boy's shoulder/arm, and Andy is concerned about the mother beating her kid. Andy makes a visit, and finds out later that there's a second brother who is autistic and violent at times. The boy gets beat up by his autistic brother again, and the mother is confronted with a choice to send the autistic brother away for the sake of her battered son, else family services would do it for her if the battering continued. Of course, in the vein of "Sophie's Choice" the mother decides to send away her battered son, and she keeps the autistic son for the time being.

The writers play with the audience at the end when Amy and Ephram are lying on the couch, and Amy tells him that she loves him. Ephram's pregnant pause would lead you to think he's a little shaken by her sincerity, but he echoes her words, and it's all good for them at that moment. Is Ephram in over his head? The pause could indicate that he thinks so, but scrambled to give Amy what she wanted to hear.
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From: Lounging on the beach in L.A., frappucino in hand...
Just have to comment on one thing (I haven't seen the whole episode, just a few bits of it after I taped it): I don't think Ephram's "hesitation" to return the "I love you" was all THAT significant. Sometimes, the first time the "I love you"s are said, the person who says it first kind of takes the other person by surprise... there's a pause while it sinks in, while you're literally speechless. Even if you suspect someone loves you, you're sometimes still shocked to hear them SAY it. I think it was an understandable pause, not too long, but not flippantly "Oh, I love you to" right back. Remember last season, when Amy admitted liking Ephram, and since he'd heard it from Bright, he wasn't surprised? I think this is similar: he should've been surprised, he was, and it worked for me.

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Old 09-28-04 | 03:50 PM
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I feel Ephram's heart is in this realtionship with Amy, and his delay in saying that doesn't mean that will lead to a break up. The crap will hit the fan when Madison rolls back in town with a bouncing baby child who has Ephram's eyes.
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Originally posted by calhoun07
... The crap will hit the fan when Madison rolls back in town with a bouncing baby child who has Ephram's eyes.
Have we already lost faith in the success of Dr. Vegas?
Old 09-28-04 | 04:03 PM
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Did G. Smith get a haircut yet? Yes he looks older, but it's just so whorrible!
Old 09-28-04 | 05:39 PM
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I feel Ephram's heart is in this realtionship with Amy, and his delay in saying that doesn't mean that will lead to a break up. The crap will hit the fan when Madison rolls back in town with a bouncing baby child who has Ephram's eyes.
That's what my wife said.

I say they breakup by Christmas. Or will they wait until the season finale?
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One of the sweeps months...
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Oh, that's much too vague.

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No, no. You have it all wrong.

Two Weeks: Breakup
November Sweeps: Get back together
Spring Sweeps: Breakup
May Sweeps: Get back together
The Predictability of This Post: Worthless
Old 10-04-04 | 07:47 PM
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Everwood - 10/04/04

"The Birds & the Batteries"

Spoiler:
Andy is caught off guard when Delia stumbles upon Nina's vibrator and begins asking him embarrassing questions.


Cast: Treat Williams, Gregory Smith, Emily Van Camp, Debra Mooney, John Beasley, Vivien Cardone, Chris Pratt, Stephanie Niznik, Merrilyn Gann, Tom Amandes, Scott Wolf.
Director(s): Michael Lange.
Producer(s): Greg Berlanti, Mickey Liddell.
Writer(s): John E. Pogue.

Original Airdate: October 4, 2004.
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Perhaps it was my mood this evening, but I didn't think this episode was that good.
I think the best parts were with Bright this week.
I am looking forward to seeing how Scott Wolf's decision backfires on him.
Other than that I could have done without most of this weeks episode - especially Amy constantly presuring Hana. I did actually feel more on Amy's side during the locker exchange, but then I also felt like she was trying to get pitty and it still annoyed me.
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I really enjoyed this episode. The character interaction was superb.

The best show on TV ... period.
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Some storylines hit home a little too close, the one with the lady with pancreatic cancer was one of them. It really can just go through a person in a short amount of time, I saw it with my own eyes this summer with a close friend of mine. And then to see Ernie Hudson's character put off his own medical needs to be there for his sick wife made for a teary-eyed moment for me. That was a well-done scene.

The scenes between Amy and Ephram were solid. Amy and Hannah need some more time before Hannah will reveal herself to Amy.

Delia finding the "foot massager" made for some uncomfortable moments between the parents (Andy, Nina and Britney's mom), thankfully both Andy and Nina had their sit-down with Delia at the end.

Harold is doing his best to push Bright out of the nest, and Bright's finally gotten pissed off enough to try out his wings with no net below him.
Old 10-05-04 | 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by Patman

Harold is doing his best to push Bright out of the nest, and Bright's finally gotten pissed off enough to try out his wings with no net below him.
You know, I don't think Harold is trying to kick Bright out. I do agree that he is trying to help moivate him, but not kick him out. You could see the reservation on his face after Bright finished yelling at him.
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Most parents want their offspring out of the house once they graduate high school, whether it be to go to college, or find a job, the parents want them out (even on a subconscious level), that's where I'm going with Harold's actions. I don't think Harold wants Bright to hang around his house and pull down $5.25 plus tips all his life. Had Bright gone for the job interview, and started working elsewhere, and then go to college the next year, the end result is the same, Bright being kicked out of the nest, out of Harold's house. Sure, Harold didn't want Bright out of the house with all this animosity, but sometimes, tough love can be a bitch. Of course, Harold can't help trying to run everyone's lives for them when he thinks the direction is dire, so his love is overwhelmed by the way he shows his love for his children sometimes and usually always has a boomerang effect on him.
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It was pretty clear that Harold did not want to kick bright out. I believe he even said something to the effect of "That's not what I meant". Unfortunately, Harold can't hide his disappointment in Bright's effort. Guiding is one thing, but trying to map out his future is another. Harold treated bright like a child and in response Bright will demonstrate his ability to lead his own life. Pretty darn good reprisentation of the late teen american male.

EDIT: How could I forget the scene with the two girls in bed. I laughed out loud. "Maybe we didn't do it right". There was a clever double entendre.

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Old 10-05-04 | 08:38 AM
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Speaking of which, I wasn't at all surprised her response was Twinkies.
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Speaking of which, I wasn't at all surprised her response was Twinkies.
Yeah, she wants you to think they are innocent Twinkies!

What was up with Amy trying to get Hannah to submit to Jane magazine? Jane magazine is for media-savvy girls who display cofidence and actually have a clue what's going on in the world. Hannah strikes me as NONE of these things. Maybe she should have submitted to Bitch Magazine instead?
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The thing about the Amy / Hannah story is Amy has an agenda.

Whether it is to keep Ephram away from Hannah.

Or to help the down-trodden.

But it isn't to be Hannah's friend. Hannah knows this and is responding with questions.

Just speculating:

Amy is up to something. It will backfire and as a result, will bring Hannah and Ephram together. But not seriously .. together. Just enough to drive Amy and Ephram apart.
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Pretty good ep.

I liked the appearance by Ernie Hudson. The scene between him and Andy was very moving.

Nina's "foot massager" did look like a microphone.

Bright continues to be a positive for the show.

What are Ephram and Amy going to do next season when they go away to college? They can't go to the local juco - maybe they will go to school in Boulder or Denver and take bright w/ them. That would make for some funny shit.
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Originally posted by B.A.

What are Ephram and Amy going to do next season when they go away to college? They can't go to the local juco - maybe they will go to school in Boulder or Denver and take bright w/ them. That would make for some funny shit.
True. I suppose Dawson's Creek handled going to college rather well. However, with Everwood I think too much of the show would be lost if it left "Everwood". Sure, you could make the case for Andy moving to boulder (for simplicities sake don't argue with me), but you'd lose Andy, Edna, Erve, New Guy, Nina, etc.

I'm just not so sure it would work.

Maybe Ephram will stay to work on Piano and Amy will go to CC to stay with him?

Come to think of it, where did Madison & Co. go to school? I don't think it was community college.
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I don't think they can have Bright, Amy and Ephram NOT go to college. My guess is Amy and Ephram or Bright and Ephram will go to college together. The one not going to college with the other two will stay in Everwood. Switch scenes from Everwood to school.
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True. I suppose Dawson's Creek handled going to college rather well. However, with Everwood I think too much of the show would be lost if it left "Everwood". Sure, you could make the case for Andy moving to boulder (for simplicities sake don't argue with me), but you'd lose Andy, Edna, Erve, New Guy, Nina, etc.

I'm just not so sure it would work.

Maybe Ephram will stay to work on Piano and Amy will go to CC to stay with him?

Come to think of it, where did Madison & Co. go to school? I don't think it was community college.
I think the writers on the show are good enough that they could pull off having characters in two separate locales.

I thought Madison & Co. went to the local juco.


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