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Old 06-24-06 | 09:18 PM
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YES. Fuck you Ed.
Old 06-24-06 | 09:19 PM
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Old 06-24-06 | 09:25 PM
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Dana White is an asshole! This show loses what little credibility it had when you give the loser a contract. White basically just said fuck you to Kendall.
Old 06-24-06 | 10:48 PM
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Dana White is an asshole! This show loses what little credibility it had when you give the loser a contract. White basically just said fuck you to Kendall.
I have no problem with someone who didn't win getting a contract, but at least wait a day or two before announcing it so as not to take away from the guy who, you know, actually won the fight.
Old 06-25-06 | 12:18 AM
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Well they did the same thing with the Stephan and Griffin fight. Both got contracts on the spot.
All those fighters tonights needed MRI's afterwards.
Old 06-25-06 | 12:55 AM
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Dana White is an asshole! This show loses what little credibility it had when you give the loser a contract. White basically just said fuck you to Kendall.
Not sure what your problem is with Dana. First of all, this isn't the first time he has done this. 2nd of all, it was a really good fight and most people will want to see both of these fighters again. 3rd, Ed did win the fight and the judges screwed him (agree that it was close fight though). It was Dan's way of saying the judges screwed up so he tried to make it right IMHO.
Old 06-25-06 | 01:25 AM
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Not sure what your problem is with Dana. First of all, this isn't the first time he has done this. 2nd of all, it was a really good fight and most people will want to see both of these fighters again. 3rd, Ed did win the fight and the judges screwed him (agree that it was close fight though). It was Dan's way of saying the judges screwed up so he tried to make it right IMHO.
1. I didn't realize that Dana did the same thing in the past.
2. It was a great fight.
3. I respectfully disagree. It was close, but I would have to give the fight to Kendall for his many near submissions, especially at the end of the fight where Ed was seconds away from being choked out.
4. I wonder if Dana would have given Kendall a contract if Ed had won.

My three problems are-
1.They constantly babble that only one fighter walks away with a 6 figure contract and that's simply not true. It's disrespectful to the audience and to the winner of the competition. Dana's word should count for something.
2. As Charlie Goose said, if you're going to give Ed a contract, then wait and do it at a later date[it's better form].
3. I hate Ed's guts!
Old 06-25-06 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Baby James
1. I didn't realize that Dana did the same thing in the past.
2. It was a great fight.
3. I respectfully disagree. It was close, but I would have to give the fight to Kendall for his many near submissions, especially at the end of the fight where Ed was seconds away from being choked out.
4. I wonder if Dana would have given Kendall a contract if Ed had won.

My three problems are-
1.They constantly babble that only one fighter walks away with a 6 figure contract and that's simply not true. It's disrespectful to the audience and to the winner of the competition. Dana's word should count for something.
2. As Charlie Goose said, if you're going to give Ed a contract, then wait and do it at a later date[it's better form].
3. I hate Ed's guts!
Pretty much all the TUF fighters get contracts for at least one or two fights anyways. The difference is they aren't long term nor are they for the same kind of money that the winner gets. All Dana said was that ED will get a contract, and knowing how notoriously cheap the UFC is it will undoubtedly be less than what the winners receive.
Old 06-25-06 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Thrush
Pretty much all the TUF fighters get contracts for at least one or two fights anyways. The difference is they aren't long term nor are they for the same kind of money that the winner gets. All Dana said was that ED will get a contract, and knowing how notoriously cheap the UFC is it will undoubtedly be less than what the winners receive.
Cool, now I feel better. As long as that douche Ed doesn't get as sweet of a deal as Kendall, then all is good[plus it'll give me a chance to see him get his ass kicked on a future show].
Old 06-25-06 | 08:18 AM
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Well I think Kendall won the fight simply because he had him in the RNC at the end, but up until then, Ed had it because he was pushing the action in the 3rd and final round...I kept saying to my wife, if Kendall doesnt do something he's going to lose it right here, then he sunk in the choke, and that's what won it for him. Great fight.

As for Josh and Bisping, all I have to say it that if Josh had any skill what so ever he could be a major force because he seems to be impossible to submit him. I mean Bisping pummled him and had him in 3 different submissisions. He definitely is fighting at too heavy a weight class though. It will be interesting to see Bisping's future in the UFC, because he seems to have all the tools, now he needs to face some real competition.

Matt looked 1000% better in his fight versus Jesse...Seems like spending some time with Tito and training with him will pay off.

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Old 06-25-06 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Baby James
Cool, now I feel better. As long as that douche Ed doesn't get as sweet of a deal as Kendall, then all is good[plus it'll give me a chance to see him get his ass kicked on a future show].


No, they will be getting the exact same deal. Griffin and Bonnar got the exact same amount of money, as did Luke Cummo (who lost) and Joe Steevnson. (though they did that one very quietly).

I had the fight at a draw, and one this close, you really can't complain abouot a decision going either way.

-Paul Jacobi-
Old 06-25-06 | 09:54 AM
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The Ed Kendall fight is great. I actually thought Ed won but suprised when Kendall won by unanimous decision, which is really questionable on the judges. Ed controlled most of the fight and didn't have much problem with the takedowns. I guess the flying knee and RNC helped Kendall. Like Charlie Goose said though, if Dana wanted Ed, he should have just announce it a day ot 2 later or kept it quiet. Why shit on the winner's parade?

Bisping is a stud and his girlfriend is a hottie. I can't believe how Bisping twisted Josh's hand and he still didn't submit. Must have some rubber arm like Royce Gracie.

Matt is MUCH better than the version we saw on TUF. Jesse was just a punching bag. I really like to see how far he can go.
Old 06-25-06 | 10:56 AM
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Good fights. The Ed Kendall fight was pretty close and I would probably have given the edge to Ed. Josh still looks a little overweight but the guy can take some punishment. Bisping looks to be a great fighter. Matt can definitely dish out some punches and has the wrestling, but it doesn't seem like he has any other skills like submissions.
Old 06-25-06 | 11:23 AM
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Is there a bigger pile of feces on the planet than Ed Herman?
Old 06-25-06 | 12:00 PM
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Is there a bigger pile of feces on the planet than Ed Herman?

Maybe Kobe.
Old 06-25-06 | 05:08 PM
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I think Ed lost the fight due to the clutching and holding on from about mid 2nd round through the 3rd. Ed clearly won the 1st round and the second was a draw (Ed dominated the 1st half of the second round, got gassed and clutched and tried to sit on him) Kendall fought through that and continued to press the fight through the third and won on his aggression. Kendall showed more heart and stamina. Rightfully deserved win on Kendall's part IMO and my opinion is not weighed on the fact that I think Ed is Portland trailer trash and a huge douche bag.
Old 06-25-06 | 05:14 PM
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The Ed Kendall fight is great. I actually thought Ed won but suprised when Kendall won by unanimous decision, which is really questionable on the judges. Ed controlled most of the fight and didn't have much problem with the takedowns. I guess the flying knee and RNC helped Kendall. Like Charlie Goose said though, if Dana wanted Ed, he should have just announce it a day ot 2 later or kept it quiet. Why shit on the winner's parade?
It isn't about shitting on the winner's parade as much as it's about pleasing the fans and furthering the "feel good" atmosphere. Anyone with an ounce of brain matter knows that most of these guys are going to get more shots in the UFC anyway, considering how it has gone after the first 2 seasons, and since it was a really close fight, they decided to do the same thing they did after the Griffin/Bonnar fight at the season 1 finale. Even if Ed had gotten blown out by Kendall in that fight, everyone knew Ed would be getting a contract anyway, since the producers of the show "created" him as a character that people care about. Whether it's because they like him or because they want to see him get his ass beat, it is one more person that people at least care about, exactly like Chris Leben.
Old 06-25-06 | 05:27 PM
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Wow. That Kendall/Ed fight was amazing. I'm glad Ed lost. He showed nothing more than what he did on the show. Kendall, on the other hand, showed a vast, vast improvement from the show. Amazing fight. Reminds me of the Bonner fight from the 1st TUF show.
Old 06-25-06 | 06:04 PM
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Good fights all around last night. I personally thought Ed won the fight, winning all 3 rounds, but there is no question if the 3rd didn't end, Kendall would have prob choked him out, so I guess that's really what the judges put most the weight on.

Glad to see them both get contracts. Bisping looked good too, but suprised he couldn't finish the fight much earlier.
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I felt that Bisping had several chances to knee Josh in the face/head while he was bent over ducking and covering but hesitated. My buddies and I all thought that he seemed scared to because he was already punishing the guy so brutally and it may have been more than what was neccessary to finish him (if that makes sense). Of course we'll never know for sure...On the flip side it was nice to see Matt fight and show some killer instinct hopefully setting it up for a Bisping/Matt fight down the line.
Old 06-26-06 | 07:08 AM
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Wow. That was one of the greatest nights of UFC fights all around IMO.. Usually you have a couple snoozers but I thought all the fights were A+. The last Ultimate Fight Night was the most boring event I've watched and this one delivered!!

The first fight was awesome! Back and forth battle. I think if Gouveia wouldn't have gassed after the first round that he would have definately taken Jardine. Give Jardine major credit though.. He came back fighting hard with some punishing leg kicks of his own.. Awesome opening fight..

Ed vs Kendal. What can I say that hasn't been said.. GREAT fight.. I don't think it was Bonnar vs Griffin but it was definately AWESOME. I'm VERY glad that Kendal won and he would have choked Ed out if there were 10 more seconds in the fight. Kendal had two SWEET flying knees!!

Bisbing vs Haynes - Wow.. Haynes can take a beating! I think that was one of the longest I've seen a ref let a fight go when someone was getting beaten that badly. Josh was in a daze for like a full minute with Bisbing just layin shots on him left and right!!

Florian vs Stout - Kenflo domination..

Matt vs Jesse - This fight was "OK". I'm glad they aired this fight but Matt still didn't impress me. Like Rogan said when Matt was in Jesse's guard.. He could have easily passed and got the full mount but he just didn't know to or something.. Hopefully if he works with Tito he can become a full all around mma fighter.

Great night of fighting all and all.. Hope UFN on Wednesday proves this exciting!!

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Well I think Kendall won the fight simply because he had him in the RNC at the end, but up until then, Ed had it because he was pushing the action in the 3rd and final round...I kept saying to my wife, if Kendall doesnt do something he's going to lose it right here, then he sunk in the choke, and that's what won it for him. Great fight.

As for Josh and Bisping, all I have to say it that if Josh had any skill what so ever he could be a major force because he seems to be impossible to submit him. I mean Bisping pummled him and had him in 3 different submissisions. He definitely is fighting at too heavy a weight class though. It will be interesting to see Bisping's future in the UFC, because he seems to have all the tools, now he needs to face some real competition.

Matt looked 1000% better in his fight versus Jesse...Seems like spending some time with Tito and training with him will pay off.
I agree. The RNC put Kendal over the edge for the judge's to award him the thrid round. It was a super close fight, and one of the best fights I've seen in a long time. At the end of the first round, it looked like it might be a cake walk for Herman. Big props to Kendal for sticking in there and pulling out the victory.

Where did you see the Matt vs. Jesse fight ?? I've seen people mention in on this and other boards. I was under the impression these were not broadcast by Spike TV. I'm curious because I would have like to check out these prelim fights as well.
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Her video is much better than her pics. She doesn't compare to Rachelle though. Not only is Rachelle hot, she has an awesome personality. When she hosted the Franklin pre-fight show, I thought it was going to be a disaster, but she was suprisingly awesome.
I agree with that 100%. In fact I was hoping they would do more of those "day in the life" things with Rachelle as she was really a natural in front of the camera and brought out a lot of personality from Rich who is pretty stiff (but cool). I could easily see her hosting a show like "Wild On" or being a correspondent for one of those entertainment tonight type shows. Plus she is smoking hot.

I was impressed with the fights from the finale, but Ed really is a punk. All that "got picked before me" crying was really lame. I do think he controlled the bulk of the fight, but I don't think he won it so I was happy to see Kendall win it.

Bisping won. Big surprise there, but it was still a good fight to watch. Josh is awesome at defending himself and maybe he can work at it more and get a better ground game.

What was up with Tito giving Bisping the ice grill when Bispig was thanking him and Dana after he won his fight?

And after seeing Matt fight again, I don't think he has it to make it in MMA. I know he won his match, but he was built up to be this monster but he doesn't look like anything special to me. Not to mention he beat a guy who got beat twice. Maybe Matt will be something in another 3 years of diligent training.
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The Matt fight was shown at the end of the show because they had some extra time.
Old 06-26-06 | 09:15 AM
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I agree that Matt did not look that impressive considering the build up they gave him. He was supposed to be this olypmic wrestler yet he stood up and puched most of the fight. Maybe he was nervous and just needs a few more fights to find his groove.

Like a lot of people on the board I didn't like Ed Hermann during the show but then I started to think that maybe he was just acting that way to get screen time. Think about how many guys were on the show and which ones stood out & people will remember. It's sad but unless you're a jerk on these shows no one remembers you.
I had no problem with him getting a contract since their was no clear winner, but it could have been done off camera and the commentators could have said something about it later. Yes, he lost by judge's decision but didn't they say their was going to be a sudden death fourth round? I could have sworn they said that during the second or third round but then went right to the judge's decision.

Josh really surprised me by lasting as long as he did but I think it was more Bisping's inability to finish him off. I'll watch it again but their were a few times that I thought he could have finished the fight but Josh got away.

Overall a good show in my opinion.


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