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Old 06-16-06 | 02:50 PM
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I was really surprised that Dana gave respect to Tito for training his guys so hard at the end. I know there's a lot of past heat there, but good for him for actually making the right analysis. Ken just looked like a sore loser that whole series, he barely trained them and brought no help. Tito's 2 trainers would have done a better job coaching Shamrock's team, I just don't think he really helped any of those guys over that 6 weeks. Not to mention, how many of his damn team quit? Christian, Tait, Kaleb (I still fully label him quitting), at the very least he's a poor judge of talent.

I went in rooting for Shamrock and came out hoping Tito beats his ass into true retirement. Shamrock always says he "makes" guys like Tito by losing to them, how long can that be true, or was it ever? Was Rich Franklin not going to be a star if he didn't pummell Shamrock? I just thought he was very low class and not tuned into training.

But Bisping has been my pick throughout and he seems to only get better. I can't f'n stand Ed, but it looks like he's got Kendall beaten, I just hope Kendall trains like hell and comes in with a little more muscle on him. Big respect to Ross for me though, fought and trained hard both fights, jumped weight, and took the fight on almost no notice. I hope they reward him with a shot on a prelim PPV or something like that.
Old 06-16-06 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JHosk
I don't know the entire back-story between Tito and Ken, but there does look to be some genuine heat between the two.
OKay, well, here it is: Tito's first fight in the UFC was as an alternate in a tournament (UFC 13, I believe). He fought Guy Mezger, who was part of Ken's Lion's Den team of fighters. Pretty quickly in the match he had Mezger in a front headlock and was kneeing him really good. The ref stepped in to check on a cut that opened up on Guy's head. Tito thought Mezger had been tapping (he wasnt). They resumed the fight and Mezger got Tito in a guillotine choke and it was over.

Mezger and Tito had a rematch a couple of UFC's later and it was a pretty big war, but ended with Tito winning due to TKO from strikes. Tito acted like an ass, doing a gravedigging mime while Mezger lay on the mat unconscious, and then donned a shirt that read ""Gay Mezger Is My Bitch" which sent The Lion's Den into a rage.

Over the next few years, Tito became the UFC poster-boy, while Ken Shamrock sorta' left the Lion's Den (though he did coach some guys) and focused on being a pro-wrestling heel. For Ken's comeback to the UFC (UFC 40) they naturally matched him with Tito because of the beef, and Tito whipped Shamrock badly. Tito flat-out mauled Ken for three rounds and Ken's corner had to throw in the towel.

At UFC 50. Tito was matched with Mezger again, but Mezger had a mini-stroke or an aneurysm (I forget which) during training and had to retire from fighting.

The Ken-Tito 2 rematch is basically a joke. The only reason it is happening is because of TUF 3. Ken will most likely look the same as he did in the first match,...


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Old 06-16-06 | 04:45 PM
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Ultimate Fighter 3 Finale Fight Card

06/24/2006, Spike TV

Main Event- Sam Stout Vs. Kenny Florian
TUF 3 Light Heavyweight Final- Michael Bisping Vs. Josh Haynes
TUF 3 Middleweight Final- Kendall Grove Vs. Ed Herman
Opening Bout- Keith Jardine Vs. Wilson Gouveia

Prelims (Most likely wont air)-
Ross Pointon Vs. Rory Singer
Kalib Starnes Vs. Danny Abibadi
Luigi Fioravanti Vs. Solomon Hutcherson
Jesse Forbes Vs. Matt Hamill
Old 06-16-06 | 04:50 PM
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I'm surprised so many from this season are getting those prelim matches. I'd actually like to see a few of them. Too bad they probably won't make it to air.
Old 06-16-06 | 05:35 PM
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I really like that Tait and Christian weren't invited... or maybe they turned it down again, freaking losers.
Old 06-16-06 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Slumbering Fist
OKay, well, here it is: Tito's first fight in the UFC was as an alternate in a tournament (UFC 13, I believe). He fought Guy Mezger, who was part of Ken's Lion's Den team of fighters. Pretty quickly in the match he had Mezger in a front headlock and was kneeing him really good. The ref stepped in to check on a cut that opened up on Guy's head. Tito thought Mezger had been tapping (he wasnt). They resumed the fight and Mezger got Tito in a guillotine choke and it was over.

Mezger and Tito had a rematch a couple of UFC's later and it was a pretty big war, but ended with Tito winning due to TKO from strikes. Tito acted like an ass, doing a gravedigging mime while Mezger lay on the mat unconscious, and then donned a shirt that read ""Gay Mezger Is My Bitch" which sent The Lion's Den into a rage.

Over the next few years, Tito became the UFC poster-boy, while Ken Shamrock sorta' left the Lion's Den (though he did coach some guys) and focused on being a pro-wrestling heel. For Ken's comeback to the UFC (UFC 40) they naturally matched him with Tito because of the beef, and Tito whipped Shamrock badly. Tito flat-out mauled Ken for three rounds and Ken's corner had to throw in the towel.

At UFC 50. Tito was matched with Mezger again, but Mezger had a mini-stroke or an aneurysm (I forget which) during training and had to retire from fighting.

The Ken-Tito 2 rematch is basically a joke. The only reason it is happening is because of TUF 3. Ken will most likely look the same as he did in the first match,...

John, thanks for putting that info together. After reading that I only want to see the rematch even more.
Old 06-16-06 | 06:34 PM
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I love that picture and here's hoping for another Kodak moment in the next fight.
Old 06-16-06 | 10:23 PM
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Eventhough I think the fighters were pretty subpar this season, I think it will be a good final...Bisping is definitely the most taleneted, but Josh has heart. I thought it was over as it looked like Jesse had the RNC sunk in but he muscled out of it. I think that match may be another Forrest vs Bonner. With Ed and Kendall, I think it will come down to the fact that Ed comes from a superior training camp and may have better training from the end of the show until the final. However, Ed will have to face someone with a decent ground game which he hasnt faced in Danny and Rory. Im definitely excited.
Old 06-18-06 | 08:13 AM
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So I really liked watching Tito coach this season, but one thing drove me ape-shit crazy about him this year. It's stupid I know, but Tito calling the fighters "kid" and "son" just irritated the hell out of me. These dudes are his age. It wasn't so bad when he was referring to the "kids" with the other coaches or Dana as that could be taken as "rookies", but after some fights he would give the "Damn good job son" and I'm like whaaaa?

Like I said, stupid that it bothers me.

I'm hoping Bisbing wins. He was the best fighter this year, but he also had charisma and personality which made the show easier to watch. I do like Josh though as he seems like a real solid guy and did a really good job fighting off those rear chokes in his fight.

Shamrock came out of this season looking like ass! I'm pretty new to the UFC so my favorite guys so far have all been coaches. Rich Franklin, Matt Hughes, and Randy and Chuck are the guys I root for just because I know who they are. I have no problem adding Tito to that list, but Shamrock has no chance. Not only was his coaching style lackluster (going by what was shown), but also his ego was pretty out of whack.

ETA: And the ring girl Leah Rochelle? Hotter than the gates to hell.
Old 06-18-06 | 12:08 PM
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Bisping will win easily over Josh. Josh stand up is weak and has zero ground skill. If Jesse had a bit more of experience or in Tito's team, he might have submit Josh with the rear naked choke.

I really hope Kendall will beat the shit outa Ed. I can't stand that prick. I think Kendall has a better stand up than Ed so a few kicks to Ed's head or his rib would be awesome. Make that bitch cry.
Old 06-18-06 | 03:07 PM
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If anybody is curious, You can watch one of Bisping's fights that took place in england here:

http://www.mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?ac=L...63&FID=1&pc=10
Old 06-18-06 | 03:34 PM
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Bisping will win easily over Josh. Josh stand up is weak and has zero ground skill. If Jesse had a bit more of experience or in Tito's team, he might have submit Josh with the rear naked choke.

I really hope Kendall will beat the shit outa Ed. I can't stand that prick. I think Kendall has a better stand up than Ed so a few kicks to Ed's head or his rib would be awesome. Make that bitch cry.
I couldn't agree more with your entire post. Here's hoping that Kendall can put an ass-kicking on that douchebag Ed.
Old 06-18-06 | 03:58 PM
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I dont think Bisping will win as easily as people think...I think Bisping will and should win, but Josh is a beast and can take quite a bit of punishment. I think it just comes down to the fact that Bisping has more skills. Jesse had the choke in pretty good, and Josh was still able to get out of it. However, if Mike hits him in the face with one of those knees, it will be lights out.
Old 06-19-06 | 08:53 AM
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My overall opinion over this season is kinda dissapointed.. Compared to the first two seasons these fighters seem like amateurs.. I can't see one of these fighters going into the UFC and actually competing with a UFC fighter..

Josh = Slow, fat, terrible conditioning, doesn't impress me at ALL.. It was impressive that he fought off the RNC but that's about all that impressed me about him in both his fights.

Ed = VERY slow standup.. If he fought a talented stand up fighter I think he would get destroyed. Watch how sloppy and slow he throws punches.. I think he is VERY overrated (by himself) and I actually think (and hope) that Kendall will win.

Kendall = I would say he's average and that he has a shot at making it in the UFC.. He showed he can take some punishment his last fight and has some good standup.

Bisping = I think he is the only good fighter and one that can actually make it in the UFC.

Ken Shamrock is a total tool.. That guy needs to get a life. He's 40+ years old and acts like he's 14.

Tito earned A LOT of respect from me.. Going into this season I was total pro Shamrock and always thought Tito was a cocky / arrogant fool.. I was totally wrong. He was totally sold out on trying to help these fighters and you really could see that he was a good guy. I can't wait until Tito vs Shamrock II.. This time I hope Tito KO's him because Shamrock took one helluva beating the first fight but he just wouldn't go down!
Old 06-21-06 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tbird2340
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Tito earned A LOT of respect from me.. Going into this season I was total pro Shamrock and always thought Tito was a cocky / arrogant fool.. I was totally wrong. He was totally sold out on trying to help these fighters and you really could see that he was a good guy. I can't wait until Tito vs Shamrock II.. This time I hope Tito KO's him because Shamrock took one helluva beating the first fight but he just wouldn't go down!

I agree. That first fight with tito and shamrock was painful to watch. I just started getting into the UFC and that match made me a fan. I also loved that big Russian guy with fangs. His one touch KO was great.

When is the rematch between Tito and Shamrock? I can't wait to see Ken get his ass kicked again
Old 06-21-06 | 07:24 AM
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July 8th. I can't wait.. Arlovski (the Russian guy you like) vs Slyvia III and Ortiz vs Shamrock II!!

Go to this site: http://wwworigin.ufc.tv/ufc61/ and it has some footage on the four fighters..
Old 06-21-06 | 07:36 AM
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An awesome amount of UFC in the very near future..

June 24th - TUF Finale LIVE (SpikeTV)
June 28th - Ultimate Fight Night LIVE (SpikeTV)
July 3rd - UFC All Access Tito Ortiz
July 3rd - UFC 61 Countdown Special
July 8th - UFC 61 (PPV)

TUF 3 Finale Card

The full line-up for the UFC's June 24th event has been revealed. In addition to the middleweight and light heavyweight finals of The Ultimate Fighter 3, as well as two previously announced bouts, there will also be five non-televised undercard bouts featuring many of the fighters from the third season of The Ultimate Fighter.

Michael Bisping vs Josh Haynes in the light heavyweight finals
Ed Herman vs Kendall Grove in the middleweight finals

The two other fights on the live broadcast on Spike TV will feature:
Kenny Florian (TUF 1 ) vs Sam Stout in a lightweight bout
Keith Jardine (TUF 2 ) vs Wilson Gouveia in a light heavyweight fight

The five non-televised undercard bouts will feature nine fighters from TUF 3, as well as one non-TUF fighter who is making his UFC debut. The five undercard bouts are:

-Matt Hamill vs. Jesse Forbes - Man, I hope this gets aired. I would really like to see him fight again.
-Kalib Starnes vs. Danny Abaddi
-Rory Singer vs. Ross Pointon
-Solomon Hutcherson vs. Luigi Fioravanti
-Mike Nickels vs. Wes Combs

"As you may have noticed, at least the top three of those fights would certainly appear to have been booked with a likely winner in mind. The five undercard fights will only air on television if there is an abundance of extra time on the three-hour live broadcast on June 24th, or if the UFC chooses to include any of them on future episodes of UFC Unleashed, a show that is only contracted to have 13 new episodes per year.

Interestingly, the only three contestants from The Ultimate Fighter 3 who are not booked on the June 24th event are the three fighters who walked away from opportunities to continue fighting on the show: Noah Inhofer, Tait Fletcher, and Kristian Rothaermel.

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Ultimate Fight Night Card

-Anderson Silva vs. Chris Leben
-Stephan Bonnar vs. Rashad Evans
-Luke Cummo vs. Jonathan Goulet
-Josh Koscheck vs. Dave Menne
-Jorge Gurgel vs. Mark Hominick
-Jon Fitch vs. Thiago Alves
-Jason Lambert vs. Branden Lee Hinkle
-Justin Levens vs. Jorge Santiago
-Kristian Rothaermel vs. Rob MacDonald

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UFC 61 Fight Card


Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock (Light Heavyweight)
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Dan Christison vs Frank Mir (Heavyweight)
Andrei Arlovski vs. Tim Sylvia (Heavyweight)
Cheick Kongo vs. Gilbert Aldana (Heavyweight)
Jeff Monson vs Anthony Perosh (Heavyweight)
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Josh Burkman vs. Josh Neer (Welterweight)
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Yves Edwards vs. Joe Stevenson (Lightweight)
Hermes Franca vs. Roger Huerta (lightweight)
Old 06-24-06 | 01:43 PM
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Don't forget the live final is on tonight.
Old 06-24-06 | 03:35 PM
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I can't wait I hope Bisping breaks out that jumping knee again.
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Thanks for the backstory on Ken/Tito, but what is the story behind Tito/Dana? Why did Tito leave the UFC? What has he been doing?
Old 06-24-06 | 08:31 PM
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People were pissed that Wilson Gouveia vs. Keith Jardine made the cut while Matt Hamill didn't. But that was a good little scrap.
Old 06-24-06 | 08:41 PM
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Does anybody know who that girl in the xyience commerical is? I swear to god I could watch that 40,000 times and never get sick of it. She's one of the hottest women I've ever seen.
Old 06-24-06 | 08:43 PM
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Here name is Amber. She is so FINE

http://www.xyience.com/?site_app_idx...bbbaf793d82c0b
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Originally Posted by zuffy
Why in the world is UFC doing a voting contest where we can choose a new ring card girl (I think Amber (not the same) left them). Game is over, she should be the new one.

Her video is much better than her pics. She doesn't compare to Rachelle though. Not only is Rachelle hot, she has an awesome personality. When she hosted the Franklin pre-fight show, I thought it was going to be a disaster, but she was suprisingly awesome.
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WOW what a fight was right. 5 more seconds and Ed would be out cold. That was Bonnar/Griffin #2, but on the ground this time.


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