LOST -- "Collision" -- 11.23.2005
#101
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From: Formerly known as achau9598 - Baltimore, MD
Originally Posted by Gunde
Some of you guys REALLY need something more important to feel this passionate about.
Loving a show is one thing but hating a character on tv is just a waste of hate.
Loving a show is one thing but hating a character on tv is just a waste of hate.
Thanks, though.
#102
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For me it's not a hate for the AL character, its MRod as an actor. The twat can't act and basically plays the same crap in all her roles and she can't even do a decent crying scene.
If they don't kill her off soon or replace the character with another girl that can act, I think I'll be dropping the show from the MythTV.
If they don't kill her off soon or replace the character with another girl that can act, I think I'll be dropping the show from the MythTV.
#103
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Originally Posted by Breakfast with Girls
By the way, I don't think we've seen everything yet related to the Shannon shooting! My theory is that one of the Others shot Shannon, Ana Lucia shot at the Other, but she missed because he dodged it with his Matrix powers, then he manipulated all of their minds using the Force to think that A-L shot Shannon and disappeared into the foliage using his invisibility shield, a la Predator. They'll probably show this later on in the season.
#105
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Originally Posted by Link_182
For some reason it makes me laugh that were now using spoiler text for passages from the bible. 


Spoiler:
#106
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Originally Posted by Doughboy
There were plenty of instances of castaways disturbing the dynamic last season, yet we still liked all of those characters at the end of the day. Sure, we prefer some over others, but we didn't hate any of them. Ana Lucia does not fall into that category.
And I disagree with this notion that every show needs a character we hate. It needs a character we LOVE to hate. If you want the perfect example, check out Melinda Clarke on The O.C. She's a manipulative bitch(by her own words), but damn if she isn't fun to watch.
And I disagree with this notion that every show needs a character we hate. It needs a character we LOVE to hate. If you want the perfect example, check out Melinda Clarke on The O.C. She's a manipulative bitch(by her own words), but damn if she isn't fun to watch.
Speaking of which, where the hell is Desmond?
#107
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Originally Posted by Doughboy
And I disagree with this notion that every show needs a character we hate. It needs a character we LOVE to hate. If you want the perfect example, check out Melinda Clarke on The O.C. She's a manipulative bitch(by her own words), but damn if she isn't fun to watch.
I agree. I think a good example is ER and Dr. Romano vs Kerry Weaver. Romano was one of those great love to hate characters like JR Ewing or The Cancer Man, while Weaver and M-Rod are characters you just hate and want to see get smashed under a helocopter.
#108
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Originally Posted by Link_182
For some reason it makes me laugh that were now using spoiler text for passages from the bible. 

#111
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker
I either want to see this:
#112
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
The Producers have already said in a TV Guide article a week or so ago that Ana Did shoot Shannon and said people were stretching a bit if they thought it was anyone else. So that theory is not a sound one.
#114
Originally Posted by riley_dude
So Much hate from people here! Unbelievable.
Everone's so quick to judge Ana Lucia but as others have said you need the "ying and the yang". I read recently that they needed something to happen so things wouldnt go 100% right with the tribes merging. That was Shannon's death. You need an Antagonist and an Protagonist or the show is going to be boring. (Anyone remember how everyone got along on Voyager)? There was no Drama and Drama makes good scripts.
I didnt really care for the way Ana Lucia was acting either but last night you got to see (or start to see) why she became like she is. Just like Everyone hated Sawyer last year and now love him because he's an Anti Hero, Ana Lucia will show her shades of grey over time.
I thought the show was great last night and loved the reunions at the end.
Good to see Rachel Ticotin again but the one problem I had was a daughter serving under her Mother in the Police Force. I could be wrong but dont think it would happen.
I'll drink to that!
Everone's so quick to judge Ana Lucia but as others have said you need the "ying and the yang". I read recently that they needed something to happen so things wouldnt go 100% right with the tribes merging. That was Shannon's death. You need an Antagonist and an Protagonist or the show is going to be boring. (Anyone remember how everyone got along on Voyager)? There was no Drama and Drama makes good scripts.
I didnt really care for the way Ana Lucia was acting either but last night you got to see (or start to see) why she became like she is. Just like Everyone hated Sawyer last year and now love him because he's an Anti Hero, Ana Lucia will show her shades of grey over time.
I thought the show was great last night and loved the reunions at the end.
Good to see Rachel Ticotin again but the one problem I had was a daughter serving under her Mother in the Police Force. I could be wrong but dont think it would happen.
I'll drink to that!
However I have been kind of annoyed with Jack this season too. He needs to just calm the fuck down with his crazy ranting and raving whenever something happens. Take some pills, relax, and think before you go running off like a madman.
#115
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Originally Posted by Breakfast with Girls
By the way, I don't think we've seen everything yet related to the Shannon shooting! My theory is that one of the Others shot Shannon, Ana Lucia shot at the Other, but she missed because he dodged it with his Matrix powers, then he manipulated all of their minds using the Force to think that A-L shot Shannon and disappeared into the foliage using his invisibility shield, a la Predator. They'll probably show this later on in the season.
#116
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Originally Posted by achau9598
Thank you for that oh-so-insightful comment. I think I'll devote my hate to hating those that judge the value of my hate.
Thanks, though.
Thanks, though.
You're quite welcome
#117
?????????????
i looked at the channel listing on my digital cable, no listing for lost. i assumed it wasn't airing due to the holiday. after seeing this thread i checked my brothers DVR, no lost recording. what gives?
i looked at the channel listing on my digital cable, no listing for lost. i assumed it wasn't airing due to the holiday. after seeing this thread i checked my brothers DVR, no lost recording. what gives?
#118
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Originally Posted by dolphinboy
If AL is detroying the show, please just don't watch.
I think that the character was brought in to be the new heal. It's too easy to sympathize with Sawyer now and the guy is obviously on the path towards redemption or something. Whatever it is, he's not so easy to hate anymore. Obviously the character of Ana Lucia, the casting of Michelle Rodriguez, or both have inspired a lot of hate, so I would say the producers know what they're doing. And since the show was the most watched thing on TV last night, I'm guessing idle threats from fanboys aren't going to change that.
#121
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I don't get the Sawyer/Ana Lucia comparison. I personally didn't hate Sawyer,and I don't recall him getting this much flak here in the discussions last season. He was cool from the get go. M-rod's schtick is just old and annoying from day one.
#122
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Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
The Zapruder film clearly shows there was a second gunman. The way Shanon's head snaps back when she was shot proves the bullet couldn't have come from Ana's gun.
Why do people keep watching if they dont like MRod?
Sawyer was stealing things from the dead and hording things. He didnt start turning around until the end of the season so no, he was not 100% nice guy.
How quickly everyone forgets.
Exerpt from Interview on TV Guide.
Are you concerned that Ana-Lucia is beyond redemption? I can't tell you how many e-mails I got from AA readers asking, "When is that bitch going to die?!" Actually, I can tell you: 124.
Carlton: At the beginning of last season, people didn't like Josh Holloway's character either. And by the end of the season, he was one of the most-liked characters on the show. It'll be really interesting to see, as we tell more about Ana-Lucia, whether that changes the audience's perception of her. We think it will.
Damon: In the same moment that we decided Shannon would die, [we also decided that] Ana-Lucia would be responsible for that death. It would be the first time one castaway was responsible for killing another, and it would give so much inherent conflict and trauma [heading to] the merge. We're walking a very tenuous tightrope with her, but we feel that over the course of the next two episodes the audience will hopefully get a better understanding for that character and what she's been through.
Last edited by riley_dude; 11-25-05 at 12:09 PM.
#123
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
Yeahhh, right.
Why do people keep watching if they dont like MRod?
Why do people keep watching if they dont like MRod?
Do eagles fans stop watching the team because of Terrell? No. The same can be said for lots of things. I know people who eat only the popcorn out of crackerjack.
You can dislike aspects of thing and still like the thing overall. It's not all or nothing.
#124
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OK, I'll get this out of the way first: I hate Michelle Rodriguez, ever since I saw her in the trailer for Girlfight. I'm really struggling with whether I hate the character or the actress, and I believe it's a little bit of both. She's way overdone, overacted and poorly written. Unless the writers pull a miracle out of their asses, and come up with a better motivation than scumbag revenge, I'll continue to dislike her. But I don't think she can ruin the show. Some of the characters are just going to be one dimensional, a by product of such a large cast, I think.
In any event, I think we can expect some real tension with the new "merge". I can see Eko and Locke having some real idealogical conflicts, and Jack's humanistic leadership bumping heads with AL's unsubtle people management skills. I like the setup.
In any event, I think we can expect some real tension with the new "merge". I can see Eko and Locke having some real idealogical conflicts, and Jack's humanistic leadership bumping heads with AL's unsubtle people management skills. I like the setup.





