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Old 11-10-05 | 09:40 AM
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Look at this:

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/1...nsdeath2ib.jpg

Now I will revise my thinking...Ana was shooting at whoever was trying to kill Shannon.
Old 11-10-05 | 09:47 AM
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Not happy they killed off Shannon.

I was hoping for more of her sunbathing in her bikini.
Old 11-10-05 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Look at this:

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/1...nsdeath2ib.jpg

Now I will revise my thinking...Ana was shooting at whoever was trying to kill Shannon.
Very interesting. That is what is great about this show, you never know what exactly is going on.
Old 11-10-05 | 09:51 AM
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No man, you're just reaching. for things that aren't there. You're speculating, without alot of proof.

I agree with ALL of that, but how do we know what happened BEFORE the Tallies got there? It was late afternoon when we last saw them, but NIGHT when they arrived to where Shannon was. We don't know what happened in the interim. We also don't know if there were NO bullets in the gun in the first place, and Ana just wanted them to think there was.

Even though there is a spent gun, a gunshot, a bleeding lady, all of that does not equal with absolute certainty that it was Ana that shot Shannon. Not on this show at least.
What happened before the Tailies got there? So what do you think, Anna Lucia shot somebody before Shannon, and is just pointing a spent weapon at everyone else? Who the hell is that supposed to scare? Then she shows up right after Shannon was shot, pointing that same empty weapon? Remember, there was only one gun shot that we heard.
I don't think A-L was lying about how many bullets where in the gun. Why would she do that? She's using it to protect the group from "the others".

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Old 11-10-05 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Look at this:

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/1...nsdeath2ib.jpg

Now I will revise my thinking...Ana was shooting at whoever was trying to kill Shannon.

I don't get the signifigance of M-Rod not having sleeves? What does that have to do with anything?
Old 11-10-05 | 09:53 AM
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What the hell does "long gunshot wound" mean?
And what am I supposed to be seing with the "no sleeves"?
Old 11-10-05 | 09:55 AM
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Yeah, not seeing any clue there that it wasn't Ana-Lucia that shot her? I'm with you DVD Josh, I love digging into this stuff, I'm just saying I don't see it.
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So Shannon yelled "Walt!" pretty loud when she went running off...Michael HAD to hear that - he's going to be asking Sayid some questions.
Old 11-10-05 | 09:58 AM
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re: the sleeves. I have no clue. The image isn't mine, I found it on another board. I think that they are just saying that the shadowy figure facing Sayid is Ana.
Old 11-10-05 | 10:02 AM
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I don't get the sleeves thing either, but if those images weren't played with, that sure doesn't look like a gunshot wound.
Old 11-10-05 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by boogieman03
No man, you're just reaching. for things that aren't there. You're speculating, without alot of proof.


What happened before the Tailies got there? So what do you think, Anna Lucia shot somebody before Shannon, and is just pointing a spent weapon at everyone else? Who the hell is that supposed to scare? Then she shows up right after Shannon was shot, pointing that same empty weapon? Remember, there was only one gun shot that we heard.
I don't think A-L was lying about how many bullets where in the gun. Why would she do that? She's using it to protect the group from "the others".
Well it's clear we are BOTH speculating my friend. Neither of us saw Ana shoot Shannon. You say she did, I say she didn't. BOTH speculation, without alot of proof (using your words).

I can tell you one thing - it's not original to point a spent gun at a person when your nerves are fried. At worst, they think you have a loaded gun for enough time for you to do something else. Also
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since Ana was a cop before the island and would have the training to be that resourceful
. Most people wouldn't know a spent gun from a loaded one, at night, in the rain, in the woods, with a dying person in front of them. Sayid might, but Ana doesn't know him from anyone.

No, what I know think is that Ana shot the person/thing that IS responsible for killing Shannon, not Shannon herself. You are damn right, that's speculation, without alot of proof, but frankly, that's all ANY of us has right now.
Old 11-10-05 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by boogieman03
What the hell does "long gunshot wound" mean?
I'm guessing it is implying Shannon's wound looks more like a cut/stab/puncture than a single gunshot.
Old 11-10-05 | 10:04 AM
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the wound was a long in length wound not what would appear to be caused by a bulet.
dont go by me i'm just guessing.
Old 11-10-05 | 10:20 AM
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Great, great episode! And no Kate makes it even better!
Old 11-10-05 | 10:21 AM
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nevermind. So now we think that Shannon got stabbed and Ann shot or shot at the killer and the killer got away without being seen, whithout making a noise and while having people close in on him/her.

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Old 11-10-05 | 10:23 AM
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I think the sleeves thing is this: Ana is wearing a tank top and the figure facing Sayid/dead Shannon in the other picture has longer sleeves. At least I think that is it.
Old 11-10-05 | 10:25 AM
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...and I don't think it's actually nighttime, but just dark due to the trees and cloudcover.
Old 11-10-05 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Here's another mind-blower:

Walt appeared and told Shannon and Sayid to be quiet (Shhh). But what would they have to fear from the Tallies and Michael, Jin and Sawyer? Nothing, they are friendlies. It's more likely that there was something ELSE there that they needed to hide from, and that something else what shot Shannon.
Have to agree with Boogieman. There was a crazy woman with an itchy trigger finger running through the jungle from the Others whom just snatched one of their own. She was ready to use that bullet.
Old 11-10-05 | 10:31 AM
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I think the sleeves thing is this: Ana is wearing a tank top and the figure facing Sayid/dead Shannon in the other picture has longer sleeves. At least I think that is it.
Nope, the picture shows them both being sleeveless.
Old 11-10-05 | 10:40 AM
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Maybe Shannon's wound is funny-shaped because it's an EXIT wound? I've never actually seen one, but it might explain the weird shape of it.
Old 11-10-05 | 10:41 AM
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I thought it was a little over the top for Boone's first line in the flashbacks..."Doesn't dying suck..." :-)
Old 11-10-05 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by joshyborra
I thought it was a little over the top for Boone's first line in the flashbacks..."Doesn't dying suck..." :-)
After the events in the end of the episode combined with his own death it makes that line funny as shit. Nice catch, it didn't even hit me when he said it.
Old 11-10-05 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by whotony
the wound was a long in length wound not what would appear to be caused by a bulet.
dont go by me i'm just guessing.

Ana didn't shoot Shaanon (I hate MR too, but I have to be fair). The wound looked more like a stake wound. remeber the body Jin found when looking for Michael w/ Ecko? Stake through the chest... I think she shot AT an OTHER. She said 1 bullet wouldn't do any good against them; but maybe she shot in reaction hoping toi scare them.

As for Shannon being the one that died; I hated this. The episode seemed to be like, hey, let's write a story about killing the actress that was giving us problems. Translates to don't question the powers that be or your off the show. JJ has too much power.
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(Didn't he kill Vaugn on Alias too for the same tyoe of thing?).
LOST killed Boone which I thought was great. It said "no one is safe" it set up to develop Shannon's character. Wow, where can this go... NOWHERE. She was hardly used the rest of last season (which was fine because she hadn't been used much prior to Boone's death) but then she was hardly used this season either. Her and Sayid got REALLY close over the few days since they went into the hatch. I realize we are not with every character for every minute; but that relationship went A LONG WAY (and I don't mean just cuz they slept together, they had more of an emotional connection than just that). Shannon was never given the opportunity to become a better character after Boone's death and now, what was the point of the 2 characters at all?

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Old 11-10-05 | 11:10 AM
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Just to be safe, you may want to put tags on that Alias spoiler in your post, therecanbonly1.
Old 11-10-05 | 11:13 AM
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i agree about sayid and shannon's relationship. I mean, the "I Love You" seemed like it came out of nowhere.


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