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Old 11-10-05 | 07:30 AM
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I don't think they wanna make her likeable. We already have 3 more well liked females in the main cast (now that Shannon's gone).
Who? Claire's a whiny annoyance and Kate's a evil, egocentric killer. That just leaves Sun. I know Shannon wasn't the most likable character on the show, but she was a hell of a lot more likable (and hotter) than either of those two.
Old 11-10-05 | 07:31 AM
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I could've sworn when Shannon asked if he saw Walt, Sayid said yes under his breath. Either way, now that Sayid knows the raft failed and that Walt's missing, it seems like he'll be more likely to believe what Shannon said. It'll be interesting to see if he tells Michael or if he keeps it to himself, making it his own personal mission to find Walt.
Well. If he says no, he is never getting in her shorts again. To me it sounded as a yes/sigh at the same time. An admission just to be helping her out whether he saw Walt or not.

I thought it was especially idiotic that Walt was gesturing to them to be quiet and then they start yelling. Good going!
Old 11-10-05 | 07:44 AM
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The biggest mystery to me right now is why was Walt "visiting" Shannon and no one else?
Could this be because Walt gave Vincent to Shannon, so there is some kind of connection between Shannon and Walt?
Old 11-10-05 | 07:50 AM
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Good LORD. Is it possible to have a LOST that:

A) doesn't bitch, bitch, bitch about the flashbacks (it is built into the show people... love it or leave it)?
B) doesn't bitch, bitch, bitch about how long it will be until the next new episode?

TV scheduling has been this was FOREVER! You get one new one that is typically a "Christmas" episode in December and then nothing until late January. I can't remember when it wasn't like that - we at least since shows became 22-24 episodes a season.

Originally Posted by riley_dude
This is American Television where they stretch things out way past their welcome. In Brittan they have a hit show run 2 or 3 seasons and don't draw it out for years.
As much as I like Lost I hate they way they stretch things out just for the sake of it. People dont talk about things like a normal human being would trying to find out answers, they leave you hanging so they can stretch things out for 8 seasons. They have gotten a bit better this season but I am surprised the average viewer is hanging in there.
Where do you get the "not stretched out" comparison? British shows are like 6-8 episodes a season. Then they either rerun those episodes constantly until the next "season" is ready or replace it with something else. Their seasons don't start in September and end in May. One reason American TV "stretches" things out as you claim is for - GUESS WHAT? - ADVERTISING! That's where the money is. If we got it all in 10-12 episodes, who'd rewatch the repeats?

If you hate the pacing and hate the waiting, why torture yourself. Stay away from late night shows with jokes and/or guests from LOST and basically bury your head in the sand until the next DVD set comes out.

On another note, GREAT episode. I loved the Sayid "I'll be right back" line - definitely an homage to Scream. Can't wait for next week. I have a feeling we'll get more detailed flashbacks of what brought the plane down from the Tailies.

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Old 11-10-05 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardW
The biggest mystery to me right now is why was Walt "visiting" Shannon and no one else?
I'm guessing the Walt appearances/whispering voices are somehow tied to the Dharma Initiative's experiments with parapsychology, as mentioned in the orientation film.

As to why Shannon, perhaps she had some unknown extra-sensory abilities that make her more receptive to such things. Or maybe she was Walt's favorite.
Old 11-10-05 | 08:21 AM
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Jack at least appeared in the episode for about 2 seconds.
Where was he? I didn't see him.

I'm at no Kate.

I f'in hate Michelle Rodriguez like the rest of you.

I kinda liked the flashback. Now that we know a bit about each character, they don't need to be as long as they have been. This episode felt fine for me in terms of length of flashback.

The article that was posted on page 1 or 2 has a picture, that I think is from
Spoiler:
next week's "tailie" (I love that name by the way) episode. I think that kid with the teddy bear is before they are taken.


I saw that ending coming, but I still liked it.

I don't think Sayid saw Walt either. I think that muttered "yes" was to just agree with Shannon.

Those whispers are kinda scarry.

I wish the tailies would have encountered the jungle monster for a little bit. That could of been fun. Maybe next week.
Old 11-10-05 | 08:28 AM
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Where was he? I didn't see him.
He walked by the other docter during Shannon's flashback at the hospital.
Old 11-10-05 | 08:37 AM
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Well. If he says no, he is never getting in her shorts again. To me it sounded as a yes/sigh at the same time. An admission just to be helping her out whether he saw Walt or not.
Here's what happened (I have a recording handy...):

Shannon and Sayid are embracing in the rain. The voices begin to whisper. Shannon reacts to them, as does Sayid.

Sayid sees something over Shannon's shoulder.

The shot then cuts to Shannon; she turns her head and sees Walt.

The shot cuts again to both Shannon and Sayid looking in the same direction.

SHANNON: Do you see him?

Sayid nods yes.

Shannon calls out his name and starts to go after him.

Sayid is frozen for a beat, as he calls out her name and begins to pursue her.

...

So it certainly looked like Sayid saw something in the jungle before Shannon did.


I thought it was especially idiotic that Walt was gesturing to them to be quiet and then they start yelling. Good going!
Good point.

Come to think of it, didn't Shannon hear the voices the first time she saw Walt? I no longer have the episode recorded. Maybe he appears to warn them that The Others are near? (There were no voices before Walt appeared in the tent this episode, though.)
Old 11-10-05 | 08:37 AM
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I still hate M-Rod's character, never liked her, now I really hate her.
DITTO. I DESPISED her before and DESPISE her even more now.
Old 11-10-05 | 08:38 AM
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Decent episode. It was a little predictable, but at least they finally (hopefully) killed Shannon off. There was a part of me secretly hoping they had some great plan to make her interesting this year and that last year was misdirecting setup, but now that it's clear she's just a bad character, they may as well kill her off and use that to further develop Sayid.

Nice fake advertizing too. "Every season, there's an episode you can't miss ..." Bullshit. Nice bait-and-switch promoting it as a Sawyer episode.

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Old 11-10-05 | 08:39 AM
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Here's something that just struck me as interesting about the episode. They made it a point to show Sayid taking out his gun in the tent. We did NOT see who shot Shannon. Now this may be a case of walks like a duck talks like a duck, but that scene struck me weird. Now maybe it's possible that Walt shot Shannon, and the tallies reaction is that "some wet kid just shot that lady". But I think it's entirely possible that it was NOT Ana that shot Shannon.
Old 11-10-05 | 08:39 AM
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Hasn't she ever seen a horror movie?
She starred in one not even a month ago http://imdb.com/title/tt0432291/ but it didn't do well at the box office so may be she didn't believe stuff in them happens
Old 11-10-05 | 08:46 AM
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But I think it's entirely possible that it was NOT Ana that shot Shannon.
I've heard similar speculation.
Old 11-10-05 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
But I think it's entirely possible that it was NOT Ana that shot Shannon.
I kind of wanted to think the same, but we definitely only heard 1 shot, and Ana-Lucia had to have taken a shot - the action on her gun was open.

http://www.lost-media.com/modules.ph...um=775&pos=828

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Old 11-10-05 | 08:59 AM
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...but we definitely only heard 1 shot, and Ana-Lucia had to have taken a shot - the action on her gun was open.
Agreed.
Old 11-10-05 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by aktick
I kind of wanted to think the same, but we definitely only heard 1 shot, and Ana-Lucia had to have taken a shot - the action on her gun was open.
Following that line of thinking: maybe Shannon wasn't shot, and Ana shot who or whatever "killed" her......
Old 11-10-05 | 09:08 AM
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Was that Ian Somerhalder as Boone, because he doesn't look right.
Old 11-10-05 | 09:12 AM
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Was that Ian Somerhalder as Boone, because he doesn't look right.
The only thing different was his longer hair.
Old 11-10-05 | 09:13 AM
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I thought for sure Sayid was gonna be the one to buy the farm when he was leaving the tent and said "i'll be right back".

I want to see more hatch action, i hope they go back to that again soon.

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Old 11-10-05 | 09:23 AM
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Does anyone think they may have a "who do I save" decision by Jack between Shannon and Sawyer?

It would be funny if Jack chooses Sawyer and porks the Rutherford (?) family again.
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Originally Posted by aktick
I kind of wanted to think the same, but we definitely only heard 1 shot, and Ana-Lucia had to have taken a shot - the action on her gun was open.

http://www.lost-media.com/modules.ph...um=775&pos=828
I agree with ALL of that, but how do we know what happened BEFORE the Tallies got there? It was late afternoon when we last saw them, but NIGHT when they arrived to where Shannon was. We don't know what happened in the interim. We also don't know if there were NO bullets in the gun in the first place, and Ana just wanted them to think there was.

Even though there is a spent gun, a gunshot, a bleeding lady, all of that does not equal with absolute certainty that it was Ana that shot Shannon. Not on this show at least.
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Here's another mind-blower:

Walt appeared and told Shannon and Sayid to be quiet (Shhh). But what would they have to fear from the Tallies and Michael, Jin and Sawyer? Nothing, they are friendlies. It's more likely that there was something ELSE there that they needed to hide from, and that something else what shot Shannon.
Old 11-10-05 | 09:35 AM
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I agree with ALL of that, but how do we know what happened BEFORE the Tallies got there? It was late afternoon when we last saw them, but NIGHT when they arrived to where Shannon was. We don't know what happened in the interim. We also don't know if there were NO bullets in the gun in the first place, and Ana just wanted them to think there was.

Even though there is a spent gun, a gunshot, a bleeding lady, all of that does not equal with absolute certainty that it was Ana that shot Shannon. Not on this show at least.
Dude you're thinking to much.
Old 11-10-05 | 09:36 AM
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Here's another mind-blower:

Walt appeared and told Shannon and Sayid to be quiet (Shhh). But what would they have to fear from the Tallies and Michael, Jin and Sawyer? Nothing, they are friendlies. It's more likely that there was something ELSE there that they needed to hide from, and that something else what shot Shannon.
What would Shannon and Sayid have to fear from the Tailies? How 'bout a women with an itchy trigger finger.
Old 11-10-05 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by boogieman03
Dude you're thinking to much.
That's what this show requires. If you watch it for entertainment value alone, you are missing out on the whole LOST experience. That's what makes it great.


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