What was the name of the chocolate bar that Kate was eating? Must be a very good chocolate cause she took a bunch with her. :lol:

"...didn't reveal much extra"??

-Kate is alive and well
-There is a shitload of food available
-Desmond has seemingly innocent intentions, but very paranoid
-Locke's descent, and his conversations with Desmond were very interesting
-The countdown timer
-CLEAVAGE, that is plenty extra! ;)

That is more information than any other typical episode, isn't it?

And that doesn't include The Shark, Jin Michael and Sawyer alive, the Udders, and the realization that Michael is truly shallow. You (and others here) just mentioned that the "retread" was not interesting, and I really think it was.

The candybar was called Apollo.

I thought it was an interesting episode. Not much happened with Michael and Sawyer's sequences. Although the hatch sequences were different POVs from last week's episode, it seemed to bring up even more questions:

- What is the purpose of entering the numbers before the counter gets to zero?
- Who was Desmond looking to show up? ("Are you him?" to Locke)
- Who are the others? Passengers or sick people from the hatch?
- Why does Desmond think the world doesn't exist anymore?

Overall, I'm still anxiously looking forward to next week's episode.

I hope none of you who were "bored" by this episode never see Kurosawa's masterpiece Rashomon. You'd probably keel over dead.

:lol:

It seemed like there was quite a bit revealed to me. Last week's left many gaps that were filled in this week if you ask me.

There's barely 5 minutes of valid comparison there. The "boredom" probably came from the rest.

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I agree......I didn't get the impression that the people we saw on the beach were the other survivors, I got the impression that the were "the others"... and in the preview for next it looked like

I would think they'd want to keep the mystery of "The Others" going a while longer, hence I thought the people at the end were the other crash survivors.

I assumed all along the other survivors were going to be more like Lord of the Flies, just to contrast how (mostly) civil the main group has been.

maybe you can answer my question from the first page then....



I have a general questions about LOST....
.....or maybe more so about Hawaii.

Does anyone know what type of trees we see in the jungle scenes that look like abunch of really tall skinny trees all bunched together? Are these a bunch of individual trees or are they one tree and this is just how they grow? I've been really curious about these trees as I have never seen anything like them before, and they have come in really handy on this island as places to hide, etc....

I did it both ways - watched the first season and immediately came here for commentary. When the DVD came out, did a marathon to prepare for season two. Totally different experiences, and both totally enjoyable!

At least the thread isn't entirely about the numbers this week :lol:

I usually quit reading these threads after the first couple pages. I wasn't a big fan of retracing last week's episode from a different perspective. It almost seemed to me like they had planned for a longer premiere and had to cut it up into seperate episodes. It left me wondering what we saw last week that was so important that this couldn't have been the premiere.

masochist!

You're wasting your breath. They could reveal 100 answers and leave one unanswered it wouldn't be enough for some people.

I was relieved to see Jin alive at the end.

I like the idea of a nuclear winter. That would be from out of left field and not on anyone's speculation (from the info givin in the first season) radar.

having paused my DVR when the zombies came into view

It's very clear that


mark me down as someone who thought we are back to 2 steps forward 3 steps back, and then 2 steps forward again.

At least the x-files had monsters and the cancer man.

I liked it... I'll watch it again.

(I'm easily impressed. ;))



I didn't mind them filling in the holes from last week. It was kind of refreshing to see something familiar so that you could look for clues and such.

I thought it was an interesting episode.
Found this site with screencaps for anyone curious to see things up close.

http://www.lost-media.com/index.php

1. Locke said Kate was fine, but it was somewhat interesting to see what happened to her.

2. That was a given. Desmond was locked in a hatch quarantined from the island, so he had to have a store of food and supplies in the bunker.

3. That was the one part of the hatch part that I liked, getting to see more of him.

4. Just Desmond asking Locke if he was "him." Nothing else really intrigued me.

5. Countdown timer was ok, just another mystery we will be waiting forever to get more clues on probably.

6. Ok, but not amazing as I think Claire, Shannon and Sun are all much hotter than Kate. :D


It was still an ok episode, just not up to Lost standards IMO. I don't mind not getting a lot of answers, but at least make the show interesting and exciting.

Maybe I'm alone, but the retread in the hatch, Michael and Sawyer on the sea, and Michael's lame backstory just made for a dull episode.

As I said above, lack of answers wasn't my major nitpick. I just thought this was the weakest episodes yet because the hatch retread, Michael and Sawyer at sea, and Michael's lame backstory didn't interest me much.

Perhaps it's the other way around. Maybe something "bad" happens when he enters the numbers...Plane crash, polar bear attack remember "the numbers are bad" by entering them, bad things could happen.
and if what Walt whispers is true he knows what will happen as well.

The symbols around the Dharma logo are trigrams from the I Ching

That's a good point. And the fact that I scream at the TV everytime the show pauses for commercials probably doesn't help ease my frustrations. :)

Now back to the show itself. I'll expand on the little theory I had last week:

Desmond is some sort of caretaker who runs things from the bunker. Only "special" people can hold that job. We can assume he's one of those "special" people if we believe he's responsible for Sarah's miraculous recovery. Either a) the caretaker is replaced after X amount of time before he goes nuts alone in that bunker or maybe b) the antitode he has to inject himself loses it's effectiveness over time or it has serious long term side effects. His apparent lack of computer skills are probably not that important, i.e. all he needs to know is to punch those numbers and hit "Execute". He was hired (or brought in) because of his specialness, not because of his computer skills. Which means, because he's "special", he must be interacting with the island in other ways because this ain't no ordinary island, it can be seen as a living/breathing organism which is also "special". When Desmond asks Locke: "Are you him?" He means his replacement. This would be Walt who we know is also "special".

Now about the "Others". If the people we saw at the end of the episode are other survivors from the tail section, they seemed to have gone "Lord of the Flies" as someone else said. Maybe they have that sickness that the French woman alluded to. Desmond also asked Locke if any of the survivors were sick. He said no. I can't remember if this seemed to surprise Desmond or not. If that island is an organism, then it can be both good and evil so maybe you can only get sick in some parts of the island. Or the island itself is sick and whatever disease it has is slowly spreading. Could this disease have been brought about by the occupants of the Black Rock?

IIRC, he was surprised that they weren't sick. And that is a good question...why would the other survivors be sick, but not our group?

Did Jin just get washed up on the beach, and the others found him - or did they go out to the raft to get him? We heard him yelling at the beginning, maybe they were there taking him then?

That's still up in the air. In next weeks previews..

Perhaps our passengers were "chosen" for the doomed Flight 815 and brought to the Island via the crash because they're immune to the effects of the "disease"?