Howard Stern and E?
07-27-05 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Kube
The Post today had an article on stern where they said his E! show was dropped suddenly. Sounds like there's more to that story than is readily apparent.
07-27-05 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hdtv00
I dont know what Aphex is WTF'ing about lol...its not like E is a real network for gods sake.
07-28-05 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Kube
ok, then WHY did they cancel it?
07-29-05 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mikewendt
He hasn't been funny or entertaining in the last 5 years... Just keeps regurgitating old bits...
07-29-05 | 11:50 PM
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I assume this is legit information.
http://www.tvbarn.com/archives/030264.php
Howard has been talking up "On Demand" programming if you've listened closely to his show recently. This should really limit the audience. I have DirecTV and as far as I know, have no way to access "On Demand" programming.
And just for the hell of it, Pat Battle.
http://www.tvbarn.com/archives/030264.php
On Demand to carry Howard Stern
Posted by Aaron Barnhart
July 29, 2005 02:10 PM CT
TV Barn's got the scoop on Howie's SVOD plans.
The rumors that Howard Stern will bring the TV version of his syndicated radio show to pay TV - mirroring his decision to jump from broadcast radio to Sirius satellite radio in 2006 - are true.
Here's what we know so far, according to an excellent source.
Next week Stern will announce he has entered into an agreement with In Demand Networks, which currently supplies its On Demand SVOD (subscription video-on-demand) services to millions through their digital cable boxes. On Demand will have exclusive rights to Stern's Sirius show under a multi-year deal. It'll also have the rights to tap into everything Stern owns, which presumably includes tapes of his old E! and syndicated TV shows.
E! announced recently it was discontinuing "The Howard Stern Show," and a deal with Spike TV fizzled. TelevisionWeek had the first report on Stern's desire to move to SVOD.
Frankly, going pay all the way makes loads more sense. After all, Stern is going to satellite radio, where he will be able to say and do just about anything. It was a struggle enough for E! for edit his existing show down to an acceptable form; imagine what will happen when the censor goes away. Painful as it may be for him to lose both of his high-profile platforms, he's better off in the long haul making a clean break now.
And it means Howard will have a second revenue stream to go with his Sirius income. Plus, consider this: Maybe he will have 1 or 2 million listeners when he signs onto Sirius. But on the TV side he will have as many potential viewers of his program as there are digital cable boxes carrying On Demand. Somewhere between 40 to 50 percent of cable customers have them now. That's a base of at least 50 million households. Even if only a small fraction buy, at least they won't need a Sirius receiver to get their Howie fix.
And of course, they'll get something satellite radio listeners won't: unpixellated boobs.
Posted by Aaron Barnhart
July 29, 2005 02:10 PM CT
TV Barn's got the scoop on Howie's SVOD plans.
The rumors that Howard Stern will bring the TV version of his syndicated radio show to pay TV - mirroring his decision to jump from broadcast radio to Sirius satellite radio in 2006 - are true.
Here's what we know so far, according to an excellent source.
Next week Stern will announce he has entered into an agreement with In Demand Networks, which currently supplies its On Demand SVOD (subscription video-on-demand) services to millions through their digital cable boxes. On Demand will have exclusive rights to Stern's Sirius show under a multi-year deal. It'll also have the rights to tap into everything Stern owns, which presumably includes tapes of his old E! and syndicated TV shows.
E! announced recently it was discontinuing "The Howard Stern Show," and a deal with Spike TV fizzled. TelevisionWeek had the first report on Stern's desire to move to SVOD.
Frankly, going pay all the way makes loads more sense. After all, Stern is going to satellite radio, where he will be able to say and do just about anything. It was a struggle enough for E! for edit his existing show down to an acceptable form; imagine what will happen when the censor goes away. Painful as it may be for him to lose both of his high-profile platforms, he's better off in the long haul making a clean break now.
And it means Howard will have a second revenue stream to go with his Sirius income. Plus, consider this: Maybe he will have 1 or 2 million listeners when he signs onto Sirius. But on the TV side he will have as many potential viewers of his program as there are digital cable boxes carrying On Demand. Somewhere between 40 to 50 percent of cable customers have them now. That's a base of at least 50 million households. Even if only a small fraction buy, at least they won't need a Sirius receiver to get their Howie fix.
And of course, they'll get something satellite radio listeners won't: unpixellated boobs.
Howard has been talking up "On Demand" programming if you've listened closely to his show recently. This should really limit the audience. I have DirecTV and as far as I know, have no way to access "On Demand" programming.
And just for the hell of it, Pat Battle.
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07-30-05 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackCapTen
And just for the hell of it, Pat Battle.
Ahhh...a brother in arms...interesting
ANYWHO...Im the first to give the thumbs up to anyone trying to make money, but after a $500,000,000 Sirius contract, does he really need the fucking money?
Listen, I hate Stern, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but throw your fans a fucking bone now and again, huh?
$12 for Sirius (now, no telling what his contract will cause the price to rise to) and now money for the show?
BTW, that article states he'll have 1 to 2 million listeners...since Sirius only has 2.1 mill subscribers, I doubt 2 million recievers will be tuned in to Stern for his 180 days of broadcasting.
HEY! Maybe thats how Sirius is going to save money...shut off all other programming while he's on!
07-30-05 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
Ahhh...a brother in arms...interesting
ANYWHO...Im the first to give the thumbs up to anyone trying to make money, but after a $500,000,000 Sirius contract, does he really need the fucking money?
Listen, I hate Stern, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but throw your fans a fucking bone now and again, huh?
$12 for Sirius (now, no telling what his contract will cause the price to rise to) and now money for the show?
BTW, that article states he'll have 1 to 2 million listeners...since Sirius only has 2.1 mill subscribers, I doubt 2 million recievers will be tuned in to Stern for his 180 days of broadcasting.
HEY! Maybe thats how Sirius is going to save money...shut off all other programming while he's on!
I usually lurk over at wackbag and see that you post over there, I remembered your username from here,
. I'm a long time Stern fan but also enjoy O/A. I was thinking about replacing some words in the article with pat battle.Anyway, I am curious how much this is going to cost and how often shows will be available. My only experience with "On Demand" was when I had cable a couple years ago and watched HBO programming on demand. Is this essentially like Pay Per View?
07-30-05 | 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
Ahhh...a brother in arms...interesting
ANYWHO...Im the first to give the thumbs up to anyone trying to make money, but after a $500,000,000 Sirius contract, does he really need the fucking money?
Listen, I hate Stern, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but throw your fans a fucking bone now and again, huh?
$12 for Sirius (now, no telling what his contract will cause the price to rise to) and now money for the show?
BTW, that article states he'll have 1 to 2 million listeners...since Sirius only has 2.1 mill subscribers, I doubt 2 million recievers will be tuned in to Stern for his 180 days of broadcasting.
HEY! Maybe thats how Sirius is going to save money...shut off all other programming while he's on!
As for the VOD, maybe Stern sees an area that is untapped and has potential outside of just money for him. Sure, it's a money decision, but I don't necessarily see it as alienation of fans.
As for the subscriber base for Sirius, it'll jump up in December and January. Expect to see over a million in growth in that short period of time.
07-30-05 | 08:27 AM
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I don't understand why people play up this money angle. What? Do they think if Stern signed the tv rights over to cable network outlet, he'd be doing it for free?
I'll reserve judgment on this move when I see what you get for the money.
Like I said in the other thread, with the popularity of DVRs and the ability to zap commercials, VOD is probably the wave of the future, so expect to see more of this.
As for $13/mo for SIRIUS, it is well worth it, and that is w/o Stern.
I'll reserve judgment on this move when I see what you get for the money.
Like I said in the other thread, with the popularity of DVRs and the ability to zap commercials, VOD is probably the wave of the future, so expect to see more of this.
As for $13/mo for SIRIUS, it is well worth it, and that is w/o Stern.
07-30-05 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
I don't understand why people play up this money angle. What? Do they think if Stern signed the tv rights over to cable network outlet, he'd be doing it for free?
I'll reserve judgment on this move when I see what you get for the money.
Like I said in the other thread, with the popularity of DVRs and the ability to zap commercials, VOD is probably the wave of the future, so expect to see more of this.
As for $13/mo for SIRIUS, it is well worth it, and that is w/o Stern.
I'll reserve judgment on this move when I see what you get for the money.
Like I said in the other thread, with the popularity of DVRs and the ability to zap commercials, VOD is probably the wave of the future, so expect to see more of this.
As for $13/mo for SIRIUS, it is well worth it, and that is w/o Stern.
Stern's hard-core fans with bucks to spend will be the big winners in this, but the casual fans will drift away and he won't be creating very many new fans any more living solely in a PPV world. The novelty of hearing Howard curse and show boobs will wear off quickly enough. Any movie channel is loaded with that sort of thing already. He better have something more than that up his sleeve to convince people to pay for something they got for free for many, many years.
07-30-05 | 07:54 PM
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well, i'm sure Sirius is upset at this. Instead of possibly getting new subscribers to their service, who happen to turn in to the TV show, like it and subscribe to Sirius. I simply don't see it happening if they have to pay to watch as well as listen.
07-31-05 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Deftones
As for the subscriber base for Sirius, it'll jump up in December and January. Expect to see over a million in growth in that short period of time.
Thats a bold statement.
I usually lurk over at wackbag and see that you post over there, I remembered your username from here, . I'm a long time Stern fan but also enjoy O/A.
07-31-05 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Needle
I'm thinking just the opposite. Since I can now create my own commercial-free broadcasts with my DVR, I have almost NO incentive to buy any sort of PPV programming. Also, I have had sattelite radio in rentals during business trips on many occasions and would never pay for it out of my own pocket. I am smack dab in the middle of the target audience for both of these sort of things, and I don't think either is a slam dunk. Hasn't the growth of sattelite radio been far below forecasts? Even two million is a pittance. Any major market radio station exceeds that market penetration, and there are many, many more listening options available off the sattelite, not to mention the over the air stations available in whatever area you happen to be.
Stern's hard-core fans with bucks to spend will be the big winners in this, but the casual fans will drift away and he won't be creating very many new fans any more living solely in a PPV world. The novelty of hearing Howard curse and show boobs will wear off quickly enough. Any movie channel is loaded with that sort of thing already. He better have something more than that up his sleeve to convince people to pay for something they got for free for many, many years.
Stern's hard-core fans with bucks to spend will be the big winners in this, but the casual fans will drift away and he won't be creating very many new fans any more living solely in a PPV world. The novelty of hearing Howard curse and show boobs will wear off quickly enough. Any movie channel is loaded with that sort of thing already. He better have something more than that up his sleeve to convince people to pay for something they got for free for many, many years.
You seem to misunderstand what I am saying. I have 3 DVRs so I record a ton of stuff and do not watch commercials. What I am saying is that I believe that VOD is the wave of the future for higher quality programming that you currently see on OTA and basic cable. With more people recording programs, the profit-making ability of the networks will shrink. This will trickle down to Hollywood. It won't be a matter of choice btwn recording your own and PPV. You will find the quality programming on VOD.
I think what subscription radio has done in its first 3 or so years of infancy is impressive. Where was DirecTV 3 years in? Where was CATV 3 years in? And keep in mind that television is a much more attractive medium for subscription than radio.
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08-01-05 | 02:43 AM
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When they announced the stern sirrus deal they had only 600,000 subscribers. If you dont think stern has'nt had any effect on the current 2.4 million subscribers your're kidding yourself. And like someone pointed out, when it comes time that he is gone. You'll see another surge in subs. That gag the other day with the dave lee roth alone probably added 200,000 subs lol.
As for on demand stern, its great I dont care where it goes long as its uncut.
As for on demand stern, its great I dont care where it goes long as its uncut.
08-01-05 | 04:00 AM
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When they announced the stern sirrus deal they had only 600,000 subscribers. If you dont think stern has'nt had any effect on the current 2.4 million subscribers your're kidding yourself.
Hoo, Hoo...I invented public demand for new technology.
Tell em Fred!
08-01-05 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
And XM has added MORE subcribers than Sirius in the same time frame because of Stern too?
Hoo, Hoo...I invented public demand for new technology.
Tell em Fred!
Hoo, Hoo...I invented public demand for new technology.
Tell em Fred!
08-01-05 | 11:26 AM
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I'm a long time Stern fan but also enjoy O/A.
08-01-05 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Me007gold
right! never mind the fact that satalite radio is far superios to regular radio, in EVERY possible way.
If the expense was merely purchasing the equipment that would be one thing. But then you are still on the hook, month after month after month. For radio.
08-01-05 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Needle
In cost as well?
If the expense was merely purchasing the equipment that would be one thing. But then you are still on the hook, month after month after month. For radio.
If the expense was merely purchasing the equipment that would be one thing. But then you are still on the hook, month after month after month. For radio.
As I said, for $13/mo, it is well worth it even without Stern.
A year ago, I felt the same way as you. I couldn't imagine anyone paying for radio. Then during a poker night at a friend's house, someone had the Sirius boombox and it was on one of the music channels. Loved the playlist and the fact that there was no commercials and little chatter. There is no station locally that plays only 80s music or only New Wave or only 80's Album Rock, etc. That made me investigate further. When I found out about their variety of music channels, NFL coverage and the Stern contract, I was sold - asked for it for x-mas.
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