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Old 04-08-05 | 08:31 PM
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Yeah, but Locke could have subsequently hit the SUV in some sort of chain-reaction collision with a numerically appropriate (44 or the like) number of vehicles...

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Hurley was driving an SUV (is a Hummer a SUV?) after he won the lotto. hmmmmmmmmm
Old 04-08-05 | 11:11 PM
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I guess there's no way to know whether or not Jack counted the baby as an additional survivor. IMO, Jack, as a doctor, would have counted Claire + baby.

As for whether or not Ethan was counted, his name was not on the flight manifest. When the census was taken, that's what they used. I'm going to go with that Ethan was not there in the beginning and snuck in a few eps later and therefore was not counted.

I'm not sure how we can prove one way or the other (baby and Ethan) unless they give us a headcount in an official recap.
I agree.
Old 04-09-05 | 09:34 AM
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The scans were taken from Lostmultimedia website of the EW number 815 issue.

PLEASE BEWARE OF SPOILERS...


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Old 04-09-05 | 09:35 AM
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Old 04-09-05 | 09:36 AM
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Old 04-09-05 | 09:38 AM
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Old 04-09-05 | 11:22 AM
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Thanks for the scans Lorenzo. The most interesting item I think is Boone's interview (right above this post). Starting from the 4th line in the middle column:

[Boone]took to his grave the possible revelation that there might be other survivors on the island (voices on the radio in said plane suggested as much).
I don't know if this comes from inside information from the cast/producers, or just from what the writer of the article believes he heard, but it seems to suggest the voice did say "We are the survivors of flight 815"
Old 04-09-05 | 05:16 PM
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What does his t-shirt say in that first photo ??

French girls say .....

Is this a hidden clue?
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It is this shirt, turned inside out perhaps because of the content?

Old 04-09-05 | 05:44 PM
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Well, darn .. since there is a French woman running around on the island ....
Old 04-09-05 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by runner001
As for whether or not Ethan was counted, his name was not on the flight manifest. When the census was taken, that's what they used. I'm going to go with that Ethan was not there in the beginning and snuck in a few eps later and therefore was not counted.
But that is what is in question, when Jack tells the pilot 48, that is just a head count. The manifest and census weren't until 3-4 episodes later. So Ethan could very well have been chillin' on the beach when the plane crashed.
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What do Spanish girls say?
Old 04-10-05 | 08:48 AM
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That EW article has some good points, but the producers are dead wrong when they say that characters were not important in The X-Files. Because the heart and soul of that show were the characters of Mulder and Scully. No makers of Lost would be wise to learn this important lession from The X-Files: do not kill off or attempt to go on without crucial characters to the show, as The X-Files did in killing off characters like X, the conspiracy's Consortium, and Alex Krycek, and then trying to go a whole season without Mulder or the Cigarette-Smoking Man. All of these were major mistakes that adversely affected later episodes of the show due to the absence of those great characters.
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No makers of Lost would be wise to learn this important lession from The X-Files: do not kill off or attempt to go on without crucial characters to the show, as The X-Files did in killing off characters like X, the conspiracy's Consortium, and Alex Krycek, and then trying to go a whole season without Mulder or the Cigarette-Smoking Man. All of these were major mistakes that adversely affected later episodes of the show due to the absence of those great characters.
Yeah, because making characters invincible does wonders for storytelling.
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Yeah, because making characters invincible does wonders for storytelling.
Killing off crucial characters may give a show a "big death" event episode, but can be disastrous for future episodes if the show doesn't have strong characters to fill the void.

Now I don't think Boone was crucial to the show, but other characters are. (For instance, if they ever killed off Locke, that would a shark-jumping moment for the show.)
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Originally Posted by johnglass
I don't know if this comes from inside information from the cast/producers, or just from what the writer of the article believes he heard, but it seems to suggest the voice did say "We are the survivors of flight 815"
In watching the promo for the upcoming episode, it is crystal clear and loud that the response on the radio was, indeed, "We are the survivors of flight 815." In fact, this response is featured in the promo.

Also, watch closely at the apparent Locke-shot. It doesn't look like a gun hit, but rather a bright light.

As for killing of crucial players, perhaps the death of Locke would not be a bad thing - providing that his death 1) isn't done for shock value and actually turns the story to it's next arc, and 2) a strong character is introduced or steps into his place

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Yep, on the promo during Desperate Housewives you could clearly here "We are the survivors of flight 815."
Old 04-10-05 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dhmac
Killing off crucial characters may give a show a "big death" event episode, but can be disastrous for future episodes if the show doesn't have strong characters to fill the void.

Now I don't think Boone was crucial to the show, but other characters are. (For instance, if they ever killed off Locke, that would a shark-jumping moment for the show.)
I'm with the article above. There isn't much left to know about Boone, his story had run it's course. He was in love with his sister, anything else would be small potatoes. Plus it will affect Locke, and from the glimpse they gave us, Jack isn't taking it too well either.

I do think the producers painted themselves into a corner telling viewers someone will die. Would have had more of an impact on viewers if it was actually a surprise.

Well for only a few episodes left they have a lot of ground to cover to answer all the questions(that will be answered) mentioned in the article above.
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Can somebody refresh my memory...when/where did Sawyer show up in Boone's flashback?
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Can somebody refresh my memory...when/where did Sawyer show up in Boone's flashback?
When Boone was in the police station in Australia trying to get the police to do something about the guy he thought was hitting Shannon, Sawyer was in the background being thrown in jail for hitting a guy with a bottle in a bar fight
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Originally Posted by dhmac
Killing off crucial characters may give a show a "big death" event episode, but can be disastrous for future episodes if the show doesn't have strong characters to fill the void.

Now I don't think Boone was crucial to the show, but other characters are. (For instance, if they ever killed off Locke, that would a shark-jumping moment for the show.)

In terms of storytelling, Jack, Sawyer, Locke, Kate and probably Sayid are the main characters, and they wouldn't get killed off unless the actor left the show. I'm guessing Charlie and Hurley aren't going anywhere either because of their fanbase popularity.


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