Smallville - 10/27/04
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I'm sure that if Lionel doesn't remember anything at the moment, it'll come back to him at some point. After all, when he was blinded a couple of seasons ago, he claimed the surgery that was supposed to help was a failure. Then for quite some time, he didn't tell anyone that he was gaining/gained back his sight. It was all manipulation to keep an eye out on his empire and other things. And by that point he did admit to Lex that he caught everyone trying take advantage of him when they thought he couldn't see what was going on.
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Originally posted by Eplicon
I'm sure that if Lionel doesn't remember anything at the moment, it'll come back to him at some point. After all, when he was blinded a couple of seasons ago, he claimed the surgery that was supposed to help was a failure. Then for quite some time, he didn't tell anyone that he was gaining/gained back his sight. It was all manipulation to keep an eye out on his empire and other things. And by that point he did admit to Lex that he caught everyone trying take advantage of him when they thought he couldn't see what was going on.
I'm sure that if Lionel doesn't remember anything at the moment, it'll come back to him at some point. After all, when he was blinded a couple of seasons ago, he claimed the surgery that was supposed to help was a failure. Then for quite some time, he didn't tell anyone that he was gaining/gained back his sight. It was all manipulation to keep an eye out on his empire and other things. And by that point he did admit to Lex that he caught everyone trying take advantage of him when they thought he couldn't see what was going on.
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Originally posted by Red Dog
I really liked this episode except for the end where Lionel doesn't remember the last 2 days.
I really liked this episode except for the end where Lionel doesn't remember the last 2 days.
Actually, He may remember everything...It would be True that he did not remember the last 2 days in THAT body....He has lied before...
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#55
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Originally posted by Patman
At least the switcheroo was attributed to the artifact, and not some crazy form of Kryptonite.
Thought it was too convenient that Clark remembered his time in the joint, but Lionel had amnesia but gained a rejuvenated liver to keep him around for a long while on the show.
At least the switcheroo was attributed to the artifact, and not some crazy form of Kryptonite.
Thought it was too convenient that Clark remembered his time in the joint, but Lionel had amnesia but gained a rejuvenated liver to keep him around for a long while on the show.
I thought there were a few funny parts - mostly due to Welling acting like Lionel, etc.
#56
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Originally posted by devilshalo
The only thing I didn't care for (other than the Star Trek-type resolution) was Jonathan's casualness about Clark's abilities. I mean, would he really tell Clark just to lift the tractor over his head? Especially with all of the unannounced visitors the farm seems to get. Pretty lame from someone who keeps spouting off about responsibility.
The only thing I didn't care for (other than the Star Trek-type resolution) was Jonathan's casualness about Clark's abilities. I mean, would he really tell Clark just to lift the tractor over his head? Especially with all of the unannounced visitors the farm seems to get. Pretty lame from someone who keeps spouting off about responsibility.
I was just happy to see them using John Glover again - this show is so much better when he is a part of the ensemble.
#57
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Originally posted by Renee
Sadly, I saw the announcement. But, that's so recent that Tom may have still been actively pursuing the role at the time he began bulking up. Or at least, working on himself "just in case." Looks like his female Smallville fans will be the only ones to reap the benefits now!
Sadly, I saw the announcement. But, that's so recent that Tom may have still been actively pursuing the role at the time he began bulking up. Or at least, working on himself "just in case." Looks like his female Smallville fans will be the only ones to reap the benefits now!
#59
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Originally posted by Red Dog
I totally forgot about the Lionel-Clark scene with Martha - 'give me a hug.' Then the heat vision is triggered just like with Clark in the Krista Allen episode from S2.
I totally forgot about the Lionel-Clark scene with Martha - 'give me a hug.' Then the heat vision is triggered just like with Clark in the Krista Allen episode from S2.
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I've just been watching Angel Season 3 and there is an episode just like this where the old man in the nursing home has a magic stone to swap bodies with young studs. He ends up swapping bodies with Angel and discovers the powers Angel has and misuses them.
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From: H-Town, TX
Originally posted by Original Desmond
I've just been watching Angel Season 3 and there is an episode just like this where the old man in the nursing home has a magic stone to swap bodies with young studs. He ends up swapping bodies with Angel and discovers the powers Angel has and misuses them.
I've just been watching Angel Season 3 and there is an episode just like this where the old man in the nursing home has a magic stone to swap bodies with young studs. He ends up swapping bodies with Angel and discovers the powers Angel has and misuses them.
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Originally posted by DRG
never knew he [Lionel] was hot for Martha.
never knew he [Lionel] was hot for Martha.
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From: In the Universe.
Originally posted by Kal-El
that was some HS kid who was just a villain-of-the-week and Clark was still free to walk around and stuff. This is Lionel Luthor (who's more dangerous IMO) and Clark's behind bars during the switch. How is that the same crap?
So I'm guessing you won't be watching this "recycled crap" right? But of course you will. And bitch about it afterwards like every other poster.
that was some HS kid who was just a villain-of-the-week and Clark was still free to walk around and stuff. This is Lionel Luthor (who's more dangerous IMO) and Clark's behind bars during the switch. How is that the same crap?So I'm guessing you won't be watching this "recycled crap" right? But of course you will. And bitch about it afterwards like every other poster.
The premise is the same: Clark loses his powers then they are misused. In this case, Lionel is the one that misuses them.
Actually I didn't bitch about it because I didn't watch it.
Either way recycled crap is still crap.
By the way, The Flash episode last week was best so far.
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Actually I didn't bitch about it because I didn't watch it.
Either way recycled crap is still crap.
It was still a great episode, I don't care what you have to say about a show you didn't even watch.
Last edited by Terrell; 11-01-04 at 01:53 AM.
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From: In the Universe.
Originally posted by Terrell
Then why did you drag your butt in here to whine about it.
Then why did you drag your butt in here to whine about it.
Because you didn't watch it, your opinion is irrelevant and invalid. Either way, if your that worried about recycled crap, then you better stop watching TV and movies altogether, because 99% of everything is recycled from something else. There are only a few original stories.]
It was still a great episode, I don't care what you have to say about a show you didn't even watch. [/B]
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maybe I'm taking this stuff too seriously, but it seems like if their souls/personalities are what is transferred, then the imprint of the events of those days by way of new synapse connections should remain in the same physical location - so Lex should only remember what events happened to Clark in his body, and vice versa.
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I'm surprised that no one has made the Clark/Lionel body swapping connection to what happened to Lana in Paris. She obviously had a similar experience in Paris only not with a live person. She woke up the next day in her room with a new tattoo and no memory of what happened to her. We now find out that this the person she swapped bodies with was killed as a witch. Like Lana I believe Lionel does not remember what happened when he was in Clark's body at least for now. He may get these memories back as may Lana. At the very least Lionel should remember that he was planning on swapping bodies with Lex and that Clark jumped in before he could touch Lex. He should at least know that he temporarily swapped bodies with Clark and somehow that experience cured his liver condition.
What really puzzles me is how the math guy got into prison and assigned to Lionel's cell. After he got into the Limo with Kidder I started thinking that it was Swann that put him there. Swann actually taught the guy the meanings of all the Kryptonian symbols. What I don't understand is why Swann would want Lionel to swap bodies with Lex in the first place. Does he know that ultimately it is Lex that will be Clark's nemisis and wanted to eliminate him for Clark? When Lionel actually swapped bodies with Clark he had the math guy help Clark reverse the swap.
Oh heck I don't know. Just throwing some stuff out there. What does everybody else think?
What really puzzles me is how the math guy got into prison and assigned to Lionel's cell. After he got into the Limo with Kidder I started thinking that it was Swann that put him there. Swann actually taught the guy the meanings of all the Kryptonian symbols. What I don't understand is why Swann would want Lionel to swap bodies with Lex in the first place. Does he know that ultimately it is Lex that will be Clark's nemisis and wanted to eliminate him for Clark? When Lionel actually swapped bodies with Clark he had the math guy help Clark reverse the swap.
Oh heck I don't know. Just throwing some stuff out there. What does everybody else think?




