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FinkPish 03-16-09 01:07 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
What controversy surrounded the last live show?

I agree, this last episode was a bit dull, but I'm convinced that 90% of the "personal experiences" that make the other episodes so interesting are just figments of imagination.

mickey65 03-16-09 01:17 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
I never realized there was any "controversy" over the coat tugging incident??

I saw that and thought it was pretty freaky. It was the Halloween one they just did in October.

Yeah, the Betsy Ross one was a bore. A waste of time. And I get bugged when THEY can hear the voices, but we can't! Even when they do playbacks on the reveal, they don't catch it.

I'm still waiting for the day when they catch an actual apparition just walk right into the cameras in the same room they are in. After 5 seasons, still hasn't happened...

Yeah, they've caught a couple here and there, but I'm talking a REALLY good one...

mickey65 03-16-09 01:24 PM

Re: Ghost Hunters
 

Originally Posted by Strafe (Post 8632383)
Yeah, it was Ghost Hunters. Steve got as far as the airport and I think he even got on the plane but started freaking out.

More like peeing his pants and crying like a little baby...what a wuss. Sorry...

Giles 03-16-09 01:26 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
the controversy was that Jason rigged the coat tug:

http://paranormalactivities.net/2009...rs-collar-tug/

I thought the freakiest glimpse of a captured entity was when the thermo hit a human shaped hot spot looking at the camera from down a hallway.

what I don't like about the show when they hear stuff but we the viewer can't is that SciFi ads their music over the voice/sound effects track so any attempt to actually hear is is almost impossible at times.

Rockmjd23 03-16-09 01:31 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by Giles (Post 9329425)
I thought the freakiest glimpse of a captured entity was when the thermo hit a human shaped hot spot looking at the camera from down a hallway.

Just came to post that. I've seen nearly every episode and that plus the lighthouse are the only things that are mildly convincing.

Giles 03-16-09 01:34 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
all the lighthouse episodes give me the goosebumps. While the TAPS team seem professional and less scarible, one of the lighthouse incidents where one of the filming crew just freaked out and wouldn't step back into the lighthouse seemed like a geniune response/fear.

mickey65 03-16-09 01:35 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by Giles (Post 9329425)
the controversy was that Jason rigged the coat tug:

http://paranormalactivities.net/2009...rs-collar-tug/

I thought the freakiest glimpse of a captured entity was when the thermo hit a human shaped hot spot looking at the camera from down a hallway.

what I don't like about the show when they hear stuff but we the viewer can't is that SciFi ads their music over the voice/sound effects track so any attempt to actually hear is is almost impossible at times.

Wow, some of those comments...

Hmmm...makes ya think about things and if the show is starting to go downhill a bit and they are resorting to cheap parlor tricks to keep the audience there.

When I was watching the show last weekend, I sort of wonder why they are always filming at one, and for one night only at all these places?

When I had my own personal experiences (which is why I'm believer in these sort of things!), it all happened in broad daylight! And they only happened when I wasn't waiting for and/or expecting it.

ckw4b 03-16-09 01:35 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by mickey65 (Post 9329400)
I never realized there was any "controversy" over the coat tugging incident??

I saw that and thought it was pretty freaky. It was the Halloween one they just did in October.

Yeah, the Betsy Ross one was a bore. A waste of time. And I get bugged when THEY can hear the voices, but we can't! Even when they do playbacks on the reveal, they don't catch it.

I'm still waiting for the day when they catch an actual apparition just walk right into the cameras in the same room they are in. After 5 seasons, still hasn't happened...

Yeah, they've caught a couple here and there, but I'm talking a REALLY good one...

I stopped watching after the coat tug controversy as well.

Here is what it is all about:

http://www.skepticalviewer.com/2008/...-part-1-grant/

http://www.skepticalviewer.com/2008/...-part-2-jason/

And here is a helpful analysis of the actual video of the "jacket tug."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlM-U...eature=related

Giles 03-16-09 01:39 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
there's a notion that SciFi wanted a cheap trick added for the live show and that Jason agreed to enact it, but given the fact that he denies such tampering AND he hasn't addressed this on the show, would suggest that SciFi wouldn't let him and shift the problem (finger) in their direction. Essentially biting the hand that feeds you.

LickTheABCs 03-16-09 01:47 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
as long as she:

http://www.ap-investigations.com/sit...ms-168x217.jpg

is still on the show I'll continue to DVR it.

devilshalo 03-16-09 02:05 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by Giles (Post 9329425)
I thought the freakiest glimpse of a captured entity was when the thermo hit a human shaped hot spot looking at the camera from down a hallway.

The lighthouse one was pretty frickin' weird, too. Gave me the heebie-jeebies.

Giles 03-16-09 02:09 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
I'm forgetting the episode title, but there was one where the team captured a series of clear child/woman sounding EVP's and played it back to the woman of the house and she knew the voice and the words they recorded instantly, whereupon she got weepy - it was both freaky and heartbreaking.

lopper 03-16-09 02:11 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
I've read that after all the set-up and tear-down of the equipment, these guys really spend only a couple hours actually 'investigating.'

I used to love this show, but after so long I just had to call "bullshit" on the deal. Like others have said, just show me something more convincing than what they've managed to capture up to this point.

And reading the links about Collargate only further illustrates what has become known on some sites as the "Grant Effect," which essentially states that he's the mastermind behind most of the fakery.

Giles 03-16-09 02:13 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
let's just face it, ghosts are extremely camera shy. And even if Ghost Hunters were to film a video/photo/audio capture, what would this prove anyway? Life after death... heaven... things that would put some of our fears to rest (raises hand) - what's wrong with that??

Ravenous 03-16-09 02:52 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
The show has bored me but since Ive watched from the very begening I havent stopped... but I want to! GHI is worse though. I hate all those morons and ugly chicks, the last season was boring and I wont watch again.

Considering I caught an EVP once by total accident, I think that part is legit, but I wouldnt be suprised if theyre faking their shit. Its really easy to fake their evidence and I called bullshit on that jacket tugging scene when it happened. It looks unnatural.

That Kris chick was hot, but shes been getting fat like her partners and her forehead is getting bigger with some receding hairline. Compared to the other harpies on this show shes hotter than hell though!

Deadman31 03-16-09 03:28 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by Ravenous (Post 9329616)
The show has bored me but since Ive watched from the very begening I havent stopped... but I want to! GHI is worse though. I hate all those morons and ugly chicks, the last season was boring and I wont watch again.

Considering I caught an EVP once by total accident, I think that part is legit, but I wouldnt be suprised if theyre faking their shit. Its really easy to fake their evidence and I called bullshit on that jacket tugging scene when it happened. It looks unnatural.

That Kris chick was hot, but shes been getting fat like her partners and her forehead is getting bigger with some receding hairline. Compared to the other harpies on this show shes hotter than hell though!


Same here. Most episodes are really boring but I cant stop watching. I checked out of GHI after the 1st season just because I couldnt stand the team.

mickey65 03-16-09 03:51 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
I've never really seen the girls being "hot" on the show, especially with their eyes lit up all green under the night-lights and all.

And thank god Brian is off the show - both of them. I couldn't stand him!

I have the feeling this MAY be the last season for Ghost Hunters...

In my own personal experiences, I've heard an EVP, seen a misty/fog cloud (which the dog even saw too), and had knocks on the walls in various rooms - all in the same house. Made me a believer - especially since my Mom died in said house!

Deadman31 03-16-09 04:01 PM

Re: Ghost Hunters
 
Still the greatest moment ever. Thank you Elijah Burke.


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devilshalo 03-16-09 04:21 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
I never understood what they were supposed to do on the show anyways. It's a debunking show. Even for the unexplained things, they are like... well, we don't know what the fuck it is either. It's not as if they actually capture some evidence and pull out a proton pack to hunt it down. I think the day they have some super concrete evidence, they'll shit the bed.

Ravenous 03-16-09 05:05 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
I did like that Brian guy, though maybe its cause he wasnt around long enough to hate him.

These idiots are also such pussies. Everthing scares them! I hope they do catch something cause Im sure theyd shit themselves and forget who they were. Than that moron Andy who use to be on would probably come out and try to suck its cock :lol:

Rockmjd23 03-16-09 05:08 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
There's a reason why they haven't found really good evidence ;)

Giles 03-17-09 09:08 AM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by Ravenous (Post 9329925)
I did like that Brian guy, though maybe its cause he wasnt around long enough to hate him.

Steve and him never got along, I was waiting for the episode where Steve would have given him a knuckle sandwich.

Strafe 03-17-09 09:32 AM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
Yes, Brian was an idiot, but he was an entertaining idiot - and thats what this show really needs when week after week you have nothing but 'personal experiences' that the viewers dont get to experience.

mickey65 03-17-09 10:21 AM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by Strafe (Post 9331091)
and thats what this show really needs when week after week you have nothing but 'personal experiences' that the viewers dont get to experience.

Or constant promos for Roto-Rooter also...

Dan1boy 03-17-09 02:22 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
Most Haunted is just so much more entertaining all the way around - and lots more happens.

Really looking forward to the return of Ghost Adventures. Extreme ghost hunting - just three guys, no crew, antagonizing the spirits. Love it.

Rockmjd23 03-17-09 02:28 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by Dan1boy (Post 9331902)
Most Haunted is just so much more entertaining all the way around - and lots more happens.

It's more entertaining to me because the guys on that are so afraid of every noise they hear. They always scream and run away.

Giles 03-17-09 03:17 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
^ they overreact, it's extremely funny

'eeeck.. a mouse' (runs away flayling arms emitting girlie screams)

Ravenous 03-17-09 03:19 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by Giles (Post 9331033)
Steve and him never got along, I was waiting for the episode where Steve would have given him a knuckle sandwich.

Only Steve wouldnt have the balls to do it. Cant fly, cant see a spider without screaming, lives with 50 cats.... He doesnt carry a man card.

Is that other ghost show with those retards that cant stop cussing?
"Did you touch my fucking arm dude?!?! Was that fucking you dude??!?"
That show is even more trashy.



I find it odd that all the GH people, when interviewed discuss their new tattoos. I guess thats where their money goes. How deliciously white trash. :lol:

GoldenJCJ 03-17-09 05:01 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by Ravenous (Post 9332088)
Only Steve wouldnt have the balls to do it. Cant fly, cant see a spider without screaming, lives with 50 cats.... He doesnt carry a man card.

Isn't Steve an ex-police officer though. Makes me wonder when he went soft.

Granted they don't catch much on tape but I do like the crew. Grant and Jason seem like cool guys and Steve and Tango always crack me up with their goofing on each other. And I'll walk around a dark mansion alone with Kris Willams anyday.

It's funny how Ghost Hunters International basically has all the Original GH rejects. I've seen Brian and Andy (I think is his name) who were both on GH when it first started.

argh923 03-22-09 01:22 AM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
Used to be a big fan of the show, but I'll never watch it again after the Halloween 08 special. And I'm not even referring to "Collargate" which was the least of my concerns...more like the whole being cued to flirt with/ask questions to the Miz by a producer, being cued to "walk in a certain area" and them catching it live, and worst of all, "YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE!" which cemented these two in my mind as frauds. Hell, I'd sell off the DVDs if I thought my wife wouldn't kill me for it.

mickey65 03-22-09 02:48 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by abrg923 (Post 9341545)
and worst of all, "YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE!" which cemented these two in my mind as frauds.

Did you catch the GHI episode where they were in the Philippines at that old Army hospital and caught that EVP where they were asking the ghost if they wanted a cigarette and it said pretty loud, "I'll take one". Fraud? Or real?

Do ya'll think some or most of the EVPs on either of those are fake?

MLBFan24 03-22-09 05:48 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
The St Augustine lighthouse episode is my favorite episode. Great evidence.

Giles 03-23-09 08:58 AM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
in defense of the tactics that GH uses, versus Most Haunted or Ghost Adventures - Most Haunted is very antiquated: seances, mediums... come on that isn't scientific in the slightest. Most Haunted also does things where an investigator goes on a solo video walk through (no camera person), they get spooked because they aren't doing it with another viable witness, they could be manifesting what they think they hear or see by fear alone. Secondly, both shows they freak out so much and so easily, it's funny, but after awhile they just come across as being pussies, jeesh, just stop and cover your eyes and ears, it's not like the entity/voice has a knife or something.

Setzer 03-23-09 09:40 AM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by abrg923 (Post 9341545)
Used to be a big fan of the show, but I'll never watch it again after the Halloween 08 special. And I'm not even referring to "Collargate" which was the least of my concerns...more like the whole being cued to flirt with/ask questions to the Miz by a producer, being cued to "walk in a certain area" and them catching it live, and worst of all, "YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE!" which cemented these two in my mind as frauds. Hell, I'd sell off the DVDs if I thought my wife wouldn't kill me for it.

I don't believe Jay and Grant to be "frauds". I've been watching the show since '04 and about 70% of the time they don't find any solid evidence. If these 2 guys were actors put in place by Sci-Fi then we'd see all sorts of shit going on in every episode. Every piece of evidence they've found so far appears to be legit.

Now, as far as the '08 Halloween episode goes, I don't blame them for the EVP or jacket incident. I'm pretty sure that was all Sci-Fi channels doing. They're letting these guys occupy 8 hours of their air time so they made sure something was going to happen. But seriously, if these guys were frauds then we would be seeing apparitions on a weekly basis.

Setzer 03-23-09 09:42 AM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by MLBFan24 (Post 9342499)
The St Augustine lighthouse episode is my favorite episode. Great evidence.

Definitely one of my favorite episodes. I also enjoyed the Armory and Manson Murder investigation episodes.

Giles 03-23-09 08:11 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by Setzer (Post 9343470)
I don't believe Jay and Grant to be "frauds". I've been watching the show since '04 and about 70% of the time they don't find any solid evidence. If these 2 guys were actors put in place by Sci-Fi then we'd see all sorts of shit going on in every episode. Every piece of evidence they've found so far appears to be legit.

Now, as far as the '08 Halloween episode goes, I don't blame them for the EVP or jacket incident. I'm pretty sure that was all Sci-Fi channels doing. They're letting these guys occupy 8 hours of their air time so they made sure something was going to happen. But seriously, if these guys were frauds then we would be seeing apparitions on a weekly basis.

that's for sure, cause the last couple of episodes have been lacklustre at best.

Ravenous 03-24-09 04:04 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 9332360)
Isn't Steve an ex-police officer though. Makes me wonder when he went soft..

He probably attempted to be a cop but failed the test and became a rent a cop. Ive known cops and he acts and looks more like a meter maid than a cop.

I have no doubt the show bullshits its evidence most times. Naturally they cant do it all the time than you know its bullshit. Once in a while, than the sheep think its 'real'

But I am still watching and damn have the past 2 seasons sucked.

devilshalo 03-24-09 05:44 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
I'm still trying to decide how much to put into this show.. or into Paranormal State (which gives off too much of a Blair Witch 2 vibe).

Giles 03-26-09 08:24 AM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
finally! ... the third episode [Edith Wharton Estate] was at least creepy... but I'm getting really miffed with the decision to add music, when there should be silence, to actually hear what the investigators are hearing, you could barely hear "the running" down the hallway/stairs incident - the music may add tension, but in terms of letting the audience also share in the experience is utterly ruined.

mickey65 03-26-09 10:28 AM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
I agree, and sometimes they throw in some sort of sound effects here and there and you're not sure if it's a ghost noise or just a sound effect for the show.

They also need to have better microphones on the cameramen to capture more of the stuff THEY hear that we don't.


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