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emachine12 03-26-09 11:46 AM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
I am starting to get the feeling that these guys want to move on. I mean, they never explained how the person on the other end of the phone was able to hear the noises. They simply chalked it up to EMF leakage and that is what caused the girl to hear screams. But how did the guy on the other end hear them too?

Its frustrating now since every investigation since the beginning of the new season feels like they just can not wait to get out of there. Then they are adding new tools that seem ridiculous, especially if they are phantom noises. Last week pissed me off too since they dismissed the door opening and closing as wind despite the fact that its physically impossible for wind to do that.

Giles 03-26-09 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mickey65 (Post 9350466)
I agree, and sometimes they throw in some sort of sound effects here and there and you're not sure if it's a ghost noise or just a sound effect for the show.

They also need to have better microphones on the cameramen to capture more of the stuff THEY hear that we don't.

and while the cameraman is supposed to omnipresent, the investigator's never engage them if one of them hears something and the other investigator doesn't, you'd think they'd break that 'third wall' and look at the camera person and ask them. I know of only one episode where one of the camera person becomes a focal point of one of the lighthouse investigations and is freaked out so badly he's relunctant in going back in. It's only when one of the 'behind the scenes' episodes gets aired where the camera guys get to finally comment on some of the more bizarre hauntings they've taped.

emachine12 03-26-09 12:49 PM

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I remember GHI's Rob interacted with the camera man when they heard something spook them. The camera operator can clearly be head saying "You heard the sound then jumped." Which prompted Rob to tell the operator that he did not jump.

They even showed the footage of a door closing on the camera operator for the show once. Steve has also compared their footage to the ones captured by Sci Fi's crew just to make sure its legit.

Giles 03-26-09 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by emachine12 (Post 9350821)
I remember GHI's Rob interacted with the camera man when they heard something spook them. The camera operator can clearly be head saying "You heard the sound then jumped." Which prompted Rob to tell the operator that he did not jump.

They even showed the footage of a door closing on the camera operator for the show once. Steve has also compared their footage to the ones captured by Sci Fi's crew just to make sure its legit.

but you're referring to Ghost Hunters International. It's very rare though where the investigator's and the crew do onscreen verbal exchanges on Ghost Hunters (US). I vaguely remember the 'door closing' incident.

LickTheABCs 03-26-09 03:14 PM

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Is it me, or is Kris William's forehead actually growing week to week?

mickey65 03-26-09 08:56 PM

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What about that one episode where the camera man was taken down in that old fort?

They made a big deal about that one.

I agree tho...the show is dying a slow death.

I had a storm power outage last night here for 3 hours. Did I miss anything with last night's episode of GH?

MLBFan24 03-26-09 10:19 PM

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I think this show has the "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" syndrome. With Ghost Hunters and GHI, there aren't really any breaks (maybe 2 weeks tops) between each season. I skipped most of GHI's latest season and only saw the GH season premiere due to LOST's return. I could watch it online, but I'm not motivated to.

Ravenous 03-27-09 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LickTheABCs (Post 9351194)
Is it me, or is Kris William's forehead actually growing week to week?

Its just you.... that why I mentioned it on the first page :rolleyes:

LickTheABCs 03-27-09 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenous (Post 9353680)
Its just you.... that why I mentioned it on the first page :rolleyes:

How can it be that in all 2 pages of this thread that it's YOUR post that I decided to skip over? Hmm, that's very troubling.

Ravenous 03-28-09 05:56 PM

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:lol:

So you purposely skipped my post? That is troubling!

Rockmjd23 03-28-09 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mickey65 (Post 9351871)
What about that one episode where the camera man was taken down in that old fort?

They made a big deal about that one.

If that's the one I'm thinking of, it is laughable because it was clear the guy just tripped and fell down.

MLBFan24 03-28-09 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockmjd23 (Post 9355488)
If that's the one I'm thinking of, it is laughable because it was clear the guy just tripped and fell down.

Didn't seem that way to me, or at least what the video presented. That box thing that was hanging around his neck flew up and made him fall backwards.

I also like the Moon River Brewing episode: a shadow figure runs behind a pool table.

And it always bothers me that the investigators never use thermal in every investigation. Maybe then do, but we never see it? I think investigators should always use EVP, thermal, and a proton pack....

GoldenJCJ 03-28-09 09:31 PM

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^The thought of jumpy Steve and Tango wearing unlicensed nuclear accelerators on their backs makes me nervous.

argh923 03-29-09 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Setzer (Post 9343470)
I don't believe Jay and Grant to be "frauds". I've been watching the show since '04 and about 70% of the time they don't find any solid evidence. If these 2 guys were actors put in place by Sci-Fi then we'd see all sorts of shit going on in every episode. Every piece of evidence they've found so far appears to be legit.

Now, as far as the '08 Halloween episode goes, I don't blame them for the EVP or jacket incident. I'm pretty sure that was all Sci-Fi channels doing. They're letting these guys occupy 8 hours of their air time so they made sure something was going to happen. But seriously, if these guys were frauds then we would be seeing apparitions on a weekly basis.

Do your research...there's plenty of websites out there that debunk damn near everything they've ever found.

Besides, they have staged shit on the Halloween episode...to me, that puts anything they've done or ever will do in question.

I used to love the show to death - and I still think the St. Augustine's Lighthouse show was legit - but I have a really hard time getting into it or believing anything since the Halloween ep. Actually...I haven't even watched one since then.

Giles 04-23-09 10:26 AM

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what happened on last night's episode "Crossing Over"? My DVR didn't record it and there are no repeats of it later in the week/weekend.

SleepyW 04-23-09 11:23 AM

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I haven't missed an episode of this show, but for whatever reason, I haven't made it through a single episode of the current season. I fall asleep halfway through.

Might be because I've been looking through some of the conspiracy theories about their rigging and and now suspect. If I ever find out 100% they're rigging things, I won't watch again.

But like mentioned before, there have been several items of evidence that I think are legit (some of the weird stuff at that Buffalo train depot, the lighthouse, the state pen, etc.), but it seems like they're going through the motions anymore.

Maybe they should have Kris Williams start wearing less, or lower cuts tops or soemthing......

Ravenous 04-23-09 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by abrg923 (Post 9355755)
Do your research...there's plenty of websites out there that debunk damn near everything they've ever found.

Besides, they have staged shit on the Halloween episode...to me, that puts anything they've done or ever will do in question.

I used to love the show to death - and I still think the St. Augustine's Lighthouse show was legit - but I have a really hard time getting into it or believing anything since the Halloween ep. Actually...I haven't even watched one since then.

Is there any proof that theyre faking everything? Just one bit of evidence is all I need to drop this show. I dont want just what people think how it could be faked, just evidence.

mickey65 04-23-09 04:41 PM

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Looks as if Jason & Grant are making "bank" with their show, since they just bought some huge Inn (The Spalding Inn) they are renovating and had the GHI team investigate on last night's show since they had some going on's there. They were able to catch some EVP's.

Yeah, I agree...the show just isn't the same anymore...sigh.

Giles 04-28-09 08:56 AM

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I agree as well, the new season is a tad dull.

s}{ammer 04-28-09 09:52 AM

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I think most people can see that the coat tug was faked for ratings. However, anyone who compares GH to Most Haunted is just being a Mary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uD0dPhr9cQ

Seriously, just look up most haunted fake in youtube, there are so many examples of the yvette chick stomping her leg and stuff. My favorite was this Mary loves Dick bit and the one where she moans when she thinks the camera is off of her, but the camera was actually looking right at a mirror opposite her. So we see her moaning and then asking if anyone else heard that. GH is not this bad and GHI is just stupid.

Giles 04-28-09 10:29 AM

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yet Most Haunted doesn't add the stupid suspenseful music that GH has - ruining the occurances of sound. Most Haunted also relys on mediums which in of itself I personally don't find credible (in the slightest).

s}{ammer 04-28-09 10:55 AM

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GH probably uses the music to keep the audience thinking something will happen soon, since it usually is pretty slow. Especially in the first couple seasons they didn't find stuff nearly as often. Another really annoying GH thing is how they explain every episode what an EVP is and when they use a K2 they have to explain that. It gets old for those of us who have watched it more than once.

I do continue watching GH though, since it usually is them trying to debunk instead of trying to find paranormal activity that is not able to be debunked. When I first saw most haunted, on travel channel I think, I thought it was pretty neat so I went online to see if I could find any other episodes. That is when I found the truth on youtube. Never have seen a second episode. I imagine it would be the same as if the GH live event with the coat tug was my first episode of GH, I probably wouldn't tune in again.

It seems to me though that the coat tug is the exception to the rule on GH. Some of my favorite things on GH has been the ghost running on the catwalk and the FLIR of that man with a military cap standing next to them. Those were pretty cool to see.

Giles 04-28-09 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by s}{ammer (Post 9413554)
GH probably uses the music to keep the audience thinking something will happen soon, since it usually is pretty slow. Especially in the first couple seasons they didn't find stuff nearly as often. Another really annoying GH thing is how they explain every episode what an EVP is and when they use a K2 they have to explain that. It gets old for those of us who have watched it more than once.

I do continue watching GH though, since it usually is them trying to debunk instead of trying to find paranormal activity that is not able to be debunked. When I first saw most haunted, on travel channel I think, I thought it was pretty neat so I went online to see if I could find any other episodes. That is when I found the truth on youtube. Never have seen a second episode. I imagine it would be the same as if the GH live event with the coat tug was my first episode of GH, I probably wouldn't tune in again.

It seems to me though that the coat tug is the exception to the rule on GH. Some of my favorite things on GH has been the ghost running on the catwalk and the FLIR of that man with a military cap standing next to them. Those were pretty cool to see.

what episode was that?

s}{ammer 04-28-09 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 9413846)
what episode was that?

It was crescent hotel.

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...er_Apparition/

Ravenous 04-28-09 02:09 PM

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Im done with this show after the finale. Im really getting sick of these idiots.

gfoots 04-28-09 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Setzer (Post 9343470)
I don't believe Jay and Grant to be "frauds". I've been watching the show since '04 and exactly 100% of the time they don't find any solid evidence.

Fixed. If these guys are not faking stuff (and I believe they are) then the only thing their evidence proves is that something happened and they didn't have enough knowledge available to explain it. "a door appeared to close by itself. I can't figure out why. It must be a ghost." Its the ghost within the gaps and it definitely isn't science.

Rockmjd23 04-29-09 12:11 AM

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Personally I believe they never find anything because, quite frankly, there's nothing to find. Most Haunted is obviously a fraud, as is any show that uses psychics. GH just seems boring a lot because, well, these places aren't really haunted. :shrug:

Setzer 04-29-09 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gfoots (Post 9415070)
Fixed. If these guys are not faking stuff (and I believe they are) then the only thing their evidence proves is that something happened and they didn't have enough knowledge available to explain it. "a door appeared to close by itself. I can't figure out why. It must be a ghost." Its the ghost within the gaps and it definitely isn't science.

Apparently you don't watch the show because there have been several episodes where they do get some good evidence. My point was, if they are "fakes" then why aren't we seeing all sorts of crazy activity on a weekly basis.

Setzer 04-29-09 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by abrg923 (Post 9355755)
Do your research...there's plenty of websites out there that debunk damn near everything they've ever found.

Besides, they have staged shit on the Halloween episode...to me, that puts anything they've done or ever will do in question.

I used to love the show to death - and I still think the St. Augustine's Lighthouse show was legit - but I have a really hard time getting into it or believing anything since the Halloween ep. Actually...I haven't even watched one since then.

Heh. They haven't found much in 4 yrs. Have they "debunked" the Armory episode where the camera man had his bag fly up and knock him out? Have they "debunked" the St. Augestine's Lighthouse? I think most of the evidence they do come up with is legit....but I do realize this show is on the Sci-Fi channel and they're not going to let these guys occupy 8 hours of their air time without something happening.

Giles 05-03-09 09:59 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 
at least the last episode: Garden State Asylum was geniuningly creepy

argh923 05-04-09 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Setzer (Post 9415121)
Heh. They haven't found much in 4 yrs. Have they "debunked" the Armory episode where the camera man had his bag fly up and knock him out? Have they "debunked" the St. Augestine's Lighthouse? I think most of the evidence they do come up with is legit....but I do realize this show is on the Sci-Fi channel and they're not going to let these guys occupy 8 hours of their air time without something happening.

Actually, yes, they've debunked the Armory. Not the SAL, though, although there's theories.

Ravenous 05-04-09 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 9423411)
at least the last episode: Garden State Asylum was geniuningly creepy

Huh? The ep last week? Uhh no.

onebyone 05-04-09 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 9423411)
at least the last episode: Garden State Asylum was geniuningly creepy

I really liked that episode too. Definitely the highlight of the season thus far.

GoldenJCJ 05-04-09 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gfoots (Post 9415070)
Fixed. If these guys are not faking stuff (and I believe they are) then the only thing their evidence proves is that something happened and they didn't have enough knowledge available to explain it. "a door appeared to close by itself. I can't figure out why. It must be a ghost." Its the ghost within the gaps and it definitely isn't science.

But their whole deal is that they go in trying to find an explanation OTHER than "it's a ghost".

The thing that has me skeptical about them faking certain hauntings is that their whole business relies on their credibility.

mickey65 05-07-09 09:40 AM

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So any comment on last night's episode of the two boats they investigated?

Any thoughts on the "Get off my ship" EVP they recorded?

Giles 05-07-09 09:45 AM

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of course my DVR didn't record the show - "shit!" and SciFi doesn't reair the shows after Wednesday evening.

Rockmjd23 05-07-09 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mickey65 (Post 9430092)
Any thoughts on the "Get off my ship" EVP they recorded?

EVP's are usually compelling evidence but unfortunately there's nothing stopping them from faking it.

Giles 05-07-09 10:04 AM

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^ also I don't like how Grant and Jason tell the person what they think they hear on the EVP, that person should have to chance initially to say what he or she thinks the EVP is saying.

Rockmjd23 05-07-09 10:07 AM

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Yeah that's a trick that EVP proponents sometimes do I've noticed. They say what they want the person to hear, then they play it to them. If you know what to listen for, you can go along with it, but if they played it normally it's just a garbled mess.

Giles 05-07-09 10:10 AM

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I can't remember the episode, but one series of EVP's that were recorded and played back, Grant and Jason didn't have to say nearly anything, the woman knew exactly the voice and broke down crying - if that's fakery, that's just downright mean of TAPS to enact something like that. It was the one EVP, that seemed geniune, it was chilling and sad at the same time.


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