Enterprise 10/08/04
10-11-04 | 09:53 AM
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Finally got around to watching this and it was brilliant. I love how they ... um ... shit, I got nothing. I can't even write a fake post mocking it. This plot (sic) is such a mess, it's not even worth tearing apart.
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10-11-04 | 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by Wizdar
"If you kill [whatshisname], everything will go back to normal."
"If you kill [whatshisname], everything will go back to normal."
10-11-04 | 11:53 AM
#53
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Finally got around to watching this and it was brilliant. I love how they ... um ... shit, I got nothing. I can't even write a fake post mocking it. This plot (sic) is such a mess, it's not even worth tearing apart.
I cant imagine people tuning into Enterprise, to give the new season a chance, liking it or even wanting to tune in next week.
STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE's fourth season premiere "Storm Front" debuted in what many have considered a "death timeslot" last night. With far less competition and away from the WB's SMALLVILLE, the episode tied for the fourth-place spot last night.
Along with Fox's finale of THE COMPLEX: MALIBU, "Storm Front" earned a 2.0 rating and 4 share in the Fast National ratings, according to Zap2it. The Fast Nationals are tentative and subject to change but usually closely mirror final ratings. This means that approximately 2% of America's television households were watching ENTERPRISE last night at eight o'clock, accounting for about 4% of the households watching television at the time.
Not surprisingly, this is ENTERPRISE's lowest season premiere ever. Last year's "The Xindi" scored a 2.6/5 final rating, just more than a half-point higher than "Storm Front." Last year's premiere was seen by 4.07 million people (story). Season three's finale, "Zero Hour," earned a 2.7/4 final rating back on May 26th
(story).
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10-11-04 | 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Damfino
That's it! Archer & crew will discover that Edith Keeler is still alive! Archer will then have to go back further in time to stop a Nazi alien from stopping Kirk from stopping McCoy from saving her life.
That's it! Archer & crew will discover that Edith Keeler is still alive! Archer will then have to go back further in time to stop a Nazi alien from stopping Kirk from stopping McCoy from saving her life.
With this garbage, we’re told that there are agents scattered throughout time, and none of the changes in the timeline have any effect until – what?
Let’s put it this way: if das is left speechless...
10-11-04 | 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by Wizdar
With this garbage, we’re told that there are agents scattered throughout time, and none of the changes in the timeline have any effect until – what?
With this garbage, we’re told that there are agents scattered throughout time, and none of the changes in the timeline have any effect until – what?
Not to mention why is it called a Temporal Cold War? To me, Cold War implies no actual engagement or fighting. It seems that with agents/soldiers running all throughout time and changing things, this war is hardly cold.
10-11-04 | 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by Red Dog
Not to mention why is it called a Temporal Cold War? To me, Cold War implies no actual engagement or fighting. It seems that with agents/soldiers running all throughout time and changing things, this war is hardly cold.
Not to mention why is it called a Temporal Cold War? To me, Cold War implies no actual engagement or fighting. It seems that with agents/soldiers running all throughout time and changing things, this war is hardly cold.
I got nothin'
10-11-04 | 01:11 PM
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Son of a bitch. I just went to watch the episode today and found out that UPN carried the presidential debate. It cut into the show 20 minutes. Had I checked yesterday I would've been able to record the Sunday rerun. 
10-11-04 | 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by das Monkey
Yeah, but Daniels said it had progressed to a full blown "conflict." Clearly, it started out as a Cold War, but ... oh fuck it.
das
Yeah, but Daniels said it had progressed to a full blown "conflict." Clearly, it started out as a Cold War, but ... oh fuck it.
das
I'd like to think that if such a war ever took place, the universe would explode Sealab-style.
10-11-04 | 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by Deftones, Esq
Son of a bitch. I just went to watch the episode today and found out that UPN carried the presidential debate. It cut into the show 20 minutes. Had I checked yesterday I would've been able to record the Sunday rerun.
Son of a bitch. I just went to watch the episode today and found out that UPN carried the presidential debate. It cut into the show 20 minutes. Had I checked yesterday I would've been able to record the Sunday rerun.
That's 20 minutes some of us would like to have back.
10-11-04 | 02:18 PM
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I was entertained.. yeah it didn't make sense but I thought it was fun. And after next week maybe it will turn into the show I wanted it to be..showing how the Federation started, etc. Too bad the ratings are so bad though, it won't last.
10-11-04 | 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by Shady12
And after next week maybe it will turn into the show I wanted it to be..showing how the Federation started, etc.
And after next week maybe it will turn into the show I wanted it to be..showing how the Federation started, etc.
Some of us have been waiting for 3 years.
Chew, you're a sick sombitch.
10-11-04 | 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by Red Dog
That's 20 minutes some of us would like to have back.
That's 20 minutes some of us would like to have back.
I find it amusing that people bash the shit out of this show and yet they continue to watch.
10-11-04 | 06:03 PM
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Bashing the show is a three-year tradition. If we didn't watch, we couldn't bash.
Besides, with Tivo you can watch it any time. Gives one something appropriate to do whilst sitting on the can.
Besides, with Tivo you can watch it any time. Gives one something appropriate to do whilst sitting on the can.
10-13-04 | 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by Damfino
That's it! Archer & crew will discover that Edith Keeler is still alive! Archer will then have to go back further in time to stop a Nazi alien from stopping Kirk from stopping McCoy from saving her life.
That's it! Archer & crew will discover that Edith Keeler is still alive! Archer will then have to go back further in time to stop a Nazi alien from stopping Kirk from stopping McCoy from saving her life.
As hideous as the idea is, a sick part of me wanted them to do it, if only to see Harlan go down there and bury his thumbs in Berman's eye sockets.
10-13-04 | 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Buck Turgidson
As hideous as the idea is, a sick part of me wanted them to do it, if only to see Harlan go down there and bury his thumbs in Berman's eye sockets.
As hideous as the idea is, a sick part of me wanted them to do it, if only to see Harlan go down there and bury his thumbs in Berman's eye sockets.
10-13-04 | 12:27 PM
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Gotta love the Tuesday Morning Quarterback:
This Week's Star Trek Complaint
In the correct galactic time-line this item was to run in a 2006 column announcing the new Tuesday Morning Quarterback interactive 3-D cheerleader lingerie calendar sponsored by Quizno's. But sinister aliens from the future traveled backward in time to alter history, and now this item is running this week!
In the 79 original Captain Kirk episodes of Star Trek, there were four episodes that involved time-travel -- scriptwriters steered clear of time travel owing to the very high absurdity quotient, since if you can alter time, nothing would ever make any sense. In contrast the latest serial, Star Trek Enterprise, feels almost entirely time-travel. Star Trek Enterprise just hit its 79th episode, and seemingly half had time-travel as their main plot or subplot. First the sinister Suliban are trying to destroy Earth by using information being sent backward in time from the far future. Then the sinister Xindi are trying to destroy Earth by using technology being sent backward in time from the far future. The Suliban and Xindi aren't single episodes but recurring "story arcs," showing up in episode after episode about time travel. Once, Captain Archer ends up in the 31st century and sees the entire Earth a smoking ruins owing to some mistake he made in the 22nd century. Constantly, a Federation officer from the far future shows up and warns Archer the fate of the galaxy depends in Enterprise restoring the "correct" time line. Other episodes involve time-travel that occurs for other reasons, or even by accident.
Now the new season of Star Trek Enterprise has kicked off, and the ship has traveled backward in time to the 1940s, where Germany has won World War II via the assistance of sinister aliens. The Federation guy from the 31st century shows up yet again and warns Captain Archer that once again if Enterprise does not restore the correct time-line, the galaxy is doomed.
TMQ understands why time-travel plots are attractive to scriptwriters -- exactly because nothing needs to make any sense! But if the cosmic timeline is so fragile that one small spaceship from a backwater world can, in a short period, cause several complete alterations of the entire history of the galaxy, why would Enterprise be the only force changing time? Wouldn't all kinds of time travelers be altering history constantly all around us? Well, back to the item I planned to write on four-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback Fran Tarkenton.
In the correct galactic time-line this item was to run in a 2006 column announcing the new Tuesday Morning Quarterback interactive 3-D cheerleader lingerie calendar sponsored by Quizno's. But sinister aliens from the future traveled backward in time to alter history, and now this item is running this week!
In the 79 original Captain Kirk episodes of Star Trek, there were four episodes that involved time-travel -- scriptwriters steered clear of time travel owing to the very high absurdity quotient, since if you can alter time, nothing would ever make any sense. In contrast the latest serial, Star Trek Enterprise, feels almost entirely time-travel. Star Trek Enterprise just hit its 79th episode, and seemingly half had time-travel as their main plot or subplot. First the sinister Suliban are trying to destroy Earth by using information being sent backward in time from the far future. Then the sinister Xindi are trying to destroy Earth by using technology being sent backward in time from the far future. The Suliban and Xindi aren't single episodes but recurring "story arcs," showing up in episode after episode about time travel. Once, Captain Archer ends up in the 31st century and sees the entire Earth a smoking ruins owing to some mistake he made in the 22nd century. Constantly, a Federation officer from the far future shows up and warns Archer the fate of the galaxy depends in Enterprise restoring the "correct" time line. Other episodes involve time-travel that occurs for other reasons, or even by accident.
Now the new season of Star Trek Enterprise has kicked off, and the ship has traveled backward in time to the 1940s, where Germany has won World War II via the assistance of sinister aliens. The Federation guy from the 31st century shows up yet again and warns Captain Archer that once again if Enterprise does not restore the correct time-line, the galaxy is doomed.
TMQ understands why time-travel plots are attractive to scriptwriters -- exactly because nothing needs to make any sense! But if the cosmic timeline is so fragile that one small spaceship from a backwater world can, in a short period, cause several complete alterations of the entire history of the galaxy, why would Enterprise be the only force changing time? Wouldn't all kinds of time travelers be altering history constantly all around us? Well, back to the item I planned to write on four-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback Fran Tarkenton.
10-13-04 | 12:33 PM
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The simple fact of the matter is the writer's must of realized early on they have no ability to fit Enterprise into the Trek timeline without messing something (everything?) up. Using the TCW and these constant storylines covers that up in what they hope is a confusing fashion.
10-13-04 | 12:59 PM
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What's so moronic about the whole fucking thing is the base concept. There's absolutely no reason to have this series set in the early days of the Federation. Hell, there's really no reason it needs to be Star Trek. If they weren't going to make it about the formation of the Federation and the early stages of interstellar flight, why even do this show? (I'm not really asking that question. I know the answer. If you didn't slap the Trek name on it, no one in his right mind would bother to watch this crap.) It's like Deep Space Nine, but without a space station, or CSI: Topeka, but instead of being about crime scene investigators, it's about time travelling midgets.
I think the best part of this episode was the extended promotion spot just before it aired, with the grand orchestral pieces and clips from the show ... like anyone really gives a shit what happens to this crew.
das
I think the best part of this episode was the extended promotion spot just before it aired, with the grand orchestral pieces and clips from the show ... like anyone really gives a shit what happens to this crew.
das
10-13-04 | 02:36 PM
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True. Very true. We have seen the starship thing before and this show has offered little in the form of entertainment. I was never a fan of the whole prequel idea in the first place but I have given it many chances. Hoping Coto can turn it around. He is a fan of Trek which is more than I can say for B &B.
10-13-04 | 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by Buck Turgidson
As hideous as the idea is, a sick part of me wanted them to do it, if only to see Harlan go down there and bury his thumbs in Berman's eye sockets.
As hideous as the idea is, a sick part of me wanted them to do it, if only to see Harlan go down there and bury his thumbs in Berman's eye sockets.