I think most people would say that DS9 had way more than one decent episode. It far outranks TNG in my opinion.

Incidently, they're also the same group who would tell you to watch Babylon 5. I'm with them. Same group, different department.

Wasn't last season supposed to be the big "give us a chance, we're fixing the problem" season? And -- I'd need more patience with search -- but weren't they saying the same things after the first season too?

This show has sucked donkey balls for 3 full years. I'm supposed to 'stick with it' now? In year 4? (aka 'the-final-year-so-we-can-get-this-fucker-syndicated' season) No thanks.

Star Trek died after DS9. It died.

Maybe a few years from now some creative people will find a way to revive it into something relevant and interesting. But Voyager and Enterprise ain't it.


You know what else is better than The Bachelor? Reading a good book. Or taking a walk. Or watching TNG on DVD. Saying that Enterprise doesn't suck as much as other sucky TV isn't really a very strong defense.


EDITED TO ADD: We've hit page 2 more than 24 hours before the show even airs! That's ONE thing about this show that I can love...

You have a new show runner this season, though. New writers don't do much when you have the same people running the show, as was true last year.

Put me in the category that hopes this season is a vast improvement over earlier ones.

I'll give it a few episodes.

Here;s hoping...

I'm going to give it another chance, hopefully they don't drag on the stories for too long. Also Bakula doesn't play the tough guy role that good.....oh boy.

Same here. I know some sci-fiers prefer the long story arcs. I prefer the self-contained or 2-3 episode arcs found in TOS and TNG.

I enjoy the show. I like they how they occasionally show us how things got started. Like "red alerts".
I'll continue watching. It would have to really suck for me to completely stop watching it.

Semi major plot spoiler if you look at next weeks episode info on TiVo. BEWARE, or check it out if you want.

30 minutes to go and counting

I'm soooooooooooo fucking pissed off baseball is airing on UPN instead of Enterprise... I absolutely love the yankee's, but I want to watch ENTERPRISE more(*!&@# ..have to wait to see the replay tomorrow night

those p51s travis saw at air shows must have been reproductions. not many left
nice assortment of WW2 small arms

and were the CG ones shown flown by the Tuskegee airmen? they had red tails

Great episode.....I can't wait for the next episode.

Interesting episode. I'm not a fan of time travel storylines so hopefully they'll wrap it up quickly and move on. I too wonder about the planes with red tails, it would be a cool shout out if it was done on purpose.

Along those lines, not that I'm complaining about the increased Mayweather screentime but if we're attemping to fly under the radar and avoid trouble in 1944 with Nazi's running around, is it a good idea to send a black man down to the planet? Just asking.

they were supposed to go down, get the shuttle/blow it up if needed and beam back up.
and earlier when they got shot at by the P51s they didn't know it was the past yet
not only are they going to have to stop the aliens, but then go back and keep them from ever coming to Earth in the first place so that the nazis can't make it to NY

I just can't believe they didn't change the damn opening theme.

I liked it. It seems, dare I say, real! It's a fun 'what if' to play around with.

And it was so violent! 10 guys an episode could get shot with phasers and it's nothing, but when people are getting shot with loud, banging guns, it just jumps out at you!

CFG!

Well, I kind of liked it, but it sure seemed like something I've seen before.

I can't begin to describe how bad that episode sucked. Already seeing the effects of a reduced budget - gunfights.

stupid baseball game was on last night. i'll be watching it tonight.

It was alright. I'm going to stick with it until after the Xindi/Temporal War storyline are finished so I can see what the "new direction" of the show will be.

Overally, a pretty good episode. I like the new direction -- always fun to destroy the Nazis.

But one thing, did anyone noticed how awfully BAD the exterior shot of the White House with the tank in the foreground looked? It seemed like something taken out of the Command & Conquer cutscenes. The reduced budget is definitely affecting the visual effects.

Just saw the ratings on Zap2it. Barely cracked a 2, which is pretty bad by even cable standards. See? They shoulda changed the theme.

Ouch.

Ooof. They're still keeping the temporal cold war nonsense?
The computer graphics looked bad. Babylon 5 had better, and that was what, 10 years ago?
With what he was given, I think Manny Coto did an okay job with the script. I haven't watched Enterprise regularly for two years... was this an improvement?

The ratings were 20% lower than the season finale: that doesn't help it's full-season chances.

As for the temporal cold war: I pretty positive next weeks episode will finally bring the storyline to a close.

I'm in the "can't wait for this storyline to be over to see what Coto really has planned" camp. This episode was pretty poor. I actually thought I read the budget wouldn't be affected, only the amount UPN has to pay to Paramount to broadcast the show. Guess I was wrong.

Been watching since TOS originally aired.



This show has more plot holes than an entire season of Voyager. It's not easy (aparently) to write a decent time travel story. But it helps if you at least try.

"If you kill [whatshisname], everything will go back to normal." Well, that's the only way they can clean up all the paradoxes, although it's a cheat. Or we find out all of season 4 is a delusion of Archer's: he wakes up and finds out it was all a dream...

I thought it was good, and can't wait for more.

They should have left it on Wednesday night. Of maybe move it to Tuesdays. On Wed it would be up against Lost and network powerhouses such as That 70's Show and Smallville. Leaving it on Wed would have been murder, but so is moving it to Friday. Tuesday night what would it be up against? Lame ass reality shows and Father of the Pride? It would finish at the top of it's game in the ratings then.