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Old 09-23-04 | 09:30 AM
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Lots of different theories going around. A lot of people are thinking that they are no longer on Earth as it's not plausible to have such a large creature that has never been discovered.

One thing I found odd, the pilot said they were 1000 miles offcourse due to the turbulence... how quick does this plane fly? I mean damn... did they take a 3 hour detour, the scene on the plane was so short I assumed the turbulence lasted maybe 10 minutes and they crashed.
Old 09-23-04 | 09:43 AM
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Weren't they near Fiji and Australia when they the place went down? Maybe it's a Tasmanian Devil: devil
Old 09-23-04 | 09:55 AM
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I liked it, I'll definitely keep watching.
Old 09-23-04 | 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by speedy
Prob some crazy, mad scientist (who owns the dog) lives on the island created some creature that has run amok and he can't control/kill it. Liked it though.
The dog belonged to the little black boy and his day. Remember when the monster or whatever showed up the first night and the kid said "Is that (insert dog name)" and the father said "that wasn't (insert dog name)."
Old 09-23-04 | 10:05 AM
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I'm pretty sure I already saw this in the theaters. It was called Jurassic Park III.
More like Predator after seeing what happened to the pilot.

Who's the hot blond preggo chick?
Old 09-23-04 | 10:14 AM
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My wife kept screaming “It’s the monster from the ID!!!” through the whole damn second half.

We’re both big Forbidden Planet fans. And it did sound pretty close…

(If they run into a giant domesticated robot next week, I guess I owe her dinner.)
Old 09-23-04 | 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
The dog belonged to the little black boy and his day. Remember when the monster or whatever showed up the first night and the kid said "Is that (insert dog name)" and the father said "that wasn't (insert dog name)."
That's exactly what I gathered from seeing the dog and that exchange.

I'll say one thing. This is one of the biggest TV threads in a long time, other than 24, so it's apparent that this show has some buzz.
Old 09-23-04 | 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
They've already given their first clue as to the "monster." The lady from the Bronx said the noise it made was familiar. Now, I've never been to the Bronx, but I'm pretty sure they don't have dinosaurs there.
So all we need is a list of big-ass, invisible things that knock down trees and kill people in the Bronx?
*Tornados? -- Nope
*??? -- I'm out
Old 09-23-04 | 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Jadzia
Something that struck me as odd as no one seemed to be grieving for the victims.
I thought the same thing. There was some mourning, but I would imagine there'd be a lot more grieving, crying, etc.

I thought the first 10 minutes were absolutely fantastic. I loved the soundstage and how chaotic the post-crash scene appeared to be.

I too hope the 'creature' won't be the dominant theme of the show.

And now, some burning questions:
1) What about that dog? I guess we find out soon enough.
2) Any reason for Jack to end up in the bamboo instead of with the rest of the wreckage?
3) Any 'scientific' reason for these folks to be relatively unscathed despite the plane coming apart at 40,000 feet?
4) Was that Charlie who rushed to the front of the plane in the flashback scene? Was that related to his desire to accompany Jack and Kate on their search for the cockpit?
5) Is Jack an alcoholic?

Feneant -- the plane diverted because the radio went out. Then later they hit the turbulence.
Old 09-23-04 | 10:29 AM
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Amazing pilot, spoiled only by two frickin' hours of "The Bachelor", as if we needed that tripe. The scene on the beach was astounding, and there are enough questions being raised to keep me hooked.

Sweet Zombie Jesus, are all the commercials for ABC programming that annoying? It just made me want to avoid ABC in every other way.

I've got some theories as to what's going on, but I'm keeping them to myself.

And yes, I think Terry O'Quinn is supposed to be a "special person".
Old 09-23-04 | 10:33 AM
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One thing I found odd, the pilot said they were 1000 miles offcourse due to the turbulence... how quick does this plane fly? I mean damn... did they take a 3 hour detour, the scene on the plane was so short I assumed the turbulence lasted maybe 10 minutes and they crashed.
The pilot explained that semi-plausibly. He said all their radio communication gear (including transponder) was out and they couldn't be "seen" (actually, id'd on radar) and had turned around (or diverted?) rather than proceeding as a result. Then they hit the turbulence and went down. I'm a little fuzzy on whether they were proceeding to a closer airfield than original departure point. But that had no way of communicating that.

On transoceanic flights, planes are off radar for hours, depending on HF communications and doing what the long range controllers tell them -- sticking to cleared flight paths. As they approach coast and reappear on radar, they need to be coming from an expected direction and with a functional transponder or there will be a great deal of "concern."

So, from the time their radio went out, they were going 580 mph, at least part of the time in a direction other than what rescuers would assume.

The implausible part of course, is all communications going out, but the little five watt walkie-talkie is going to save them.
Old 09-23-04 | 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by OldDude
The pilot explained that semi-plausibly. He said all their radio communication gear (including transponder) was out and they couldn't be "seen" (actually, id'd on radar) and had turned around (or diverted?) rather than proceeding as a result. Then they hit the turbulence and went down. I'm a little fuzzy on whether they were proceeding to a closer airfield than original departure point. But that had no way of communicating that.

On transoceanic flights, planes are off radar for hours, depending on HF communications and doing what the long range controllers tell them -- sticking to cleared flight paths. As they approach coast and reappear on radar, they need to be coming from an expected direction and with a functional transponder or there will be a great deal of "concern."

So, from the time their radio went out, they were going 580 mph, at least part of the time in a direction other than what rescuers would assume.

The implausible part of course, is all communications going out, but the little five watt walkie-talkie is going to save them.
Stop making the show make sense!!!!! My head hurts.
Old 09-23-04 | 10:39 AM
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Who's the hot blond preggo chick?
Emilie de Ravin from Roswell fame.

Old 09-23-04 | 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by Dr. Rosenrosen
4) Was that Charlie who rushed to the front of the plane in the flashback scene? Was that related to his desire to accompany Jack and Kate on their search for the cockpit?
It's not giving away much, if anything, to say that some of this is answered in the next ep. We saw some of the crash from Jack's perspective in the first hour; more of it will be seen from other characters' perspectives in part 2. (That's part of the reason it worked better as a 2-hour pilot, with all those flashbacks tied together and feeling more immediate...)

We may see additional footage of the crash, from different perspectives, like additional puzzle peices, throughout the season for all I know...

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Old 09-23-04 | 10:50 AM
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If the dog belonged to the father and son, why would they show it hiding in the bushes, unseen by Jack and company? My take on that shot is that it was meant to communicate that the dog was already on the island before the crash.

Note also that the dog was wearing a collar.
Old 09-23-04 | 10:53 AM
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From AICN, here's a quote from co-showrunner Damon Lindelof re: the thing in the jungle:

AICN: You’re on record as saying there are no dinosaurs on the island. Will we get a look at one of the giant tree-stomping creatures within the first 13 hours broadcast?

DL: The record speaketh true. NO dinosaurs. Will you get a look at the "thing in the trees" in the first 13? I'll only say this -- maybe you'll see it, maybe you won't... but you'll definitely know much more ABOUT it.
Old 09-23-04 | 10:55 AM
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I think they landed on the same island that Treat Williams did at the end of Deep Rising.
Old 09-23-04 | 11:06 AM
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My wife kept screaming “It’s the monster from the ID!!!” through the whole damn second half.
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That's what I was thinking.

I liked the show and will definitely keep watching.
Old 09-23-04 | 11:12 AM
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Great Show. One of the best pilots ever. It had me on the edge of my seat the entire time.
Old 09-23-04 | 11:15 AM
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I doubt that's an actual AICN interview. It would go more like this:

AICN: [30 paragraphs that have nothing to do the show] OMG OMG OMG LOST ROCKS IT'S SIMPLY THE BEST SHOW EVER AND I LOVE IT [30 more paragraphs that have nothing to do the show]

DL: I'm sorry...was there a question in there?
Old 09-23-04 | 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
If the dog belonged to the father and son, why would they show it hiding in the bushes, unseen by Jack and company? My take on that shot is that it was meant to communicate that the dog was already on the island before the crash.

Note also that the dog was wearing a collar.

Just crappy filming either way. If it's the father/son's dog then like you said, that scene doesn't make sense. If it's not, then the dialog about "that wasn't (insert dog name) doesn't make sense.

The collar doesn't clear things up as it could still be the father/son's dog or someone else.
Old 09-23-04 | 11:25 AM
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I can't tell you the last time I watched a 1-hour episode of anything on ABC. But I was intrigued by the premise and buzz on Lost, so I tuned in. Was not disappointed. I liked the mystery of the whole thing (there is some major over-analyzing in this thread), and am looking forward to part 2 of the pilot.
Old 09-23-04 | 11:26 AM
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Loved the show, so far.

SO can anyone confirm that what I saw last night is just the first hour of the pilot that everyone has mentioned and not a chopped up, edited, and pieced version? Thanks.
Old 09-23-04 | 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
Just crappy filming either way. If it's the father/son's dog then like you said, that scene doesn't make sense. If it's not, then the dialog about "that wasn't (insert dog name) doesn't make sense.
The dialog doesn't make sense because we don't know who the father and son were talking about. It's an unanswered question, not "crappy filming." It was a hint at things to come. We don't even know if they were talking about a dog.
Old 09-23-04 | 11:35 AM
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SO can anyone confirm that what I saw last night is just the first hour of the pilot that everyone has mentioned and not a chopped up, edited, and pieced version? Thanks.
Yes, I can confirm that. Next week's preview showed everything I remember from part 2.


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