Originally posted by das Monkey
You'll never see Mumy at a convention where he doesn't remind the audience that it wasn't his idea and that he fought with jms over it. Every time I see this episode it breaks my heart, but Lennier had been on a subtle descent for a while. His motives for becoming a Ranger weren't pure, and he was slowly losing himself. I think the key to this scene is simply the initial hesitation. That's all it took. I've always felt that when he runs off, it's more out of shame for the hesitation than a conscious desire to kill Sheridan. Once he hesitates, rational thought is no longer a factor. To let Sheridan out is to face his disgrace, and he instinctively flees. Honor is so important to the Minbari, and since Lennier has never truly disgraced himself, it's hard to know if that's really in character for him or not. I can see it both ways, but I do think it works.

das

thought Lennier's action - or, rather, inaction - was out of character. Sure, he always loved Delenn, and sure, somewhere in the back of his mind he probably wanted Sheridan out of the way, but based on his prior behavior his deliberately leaving Sheridan - and another ranger - to die seemed to be something he would not do, ever.

Originally posted by Bandoman
I just finished watching "Sleeping in Light". Is it wrong for a grown man to cry during a TV show?

Wow. Just - wow.

BTW -

Spoiler:

That was Andreas Katsulas (G'Kar) as one of the Centauri guards, right? Was Peter Jurasik in this at all?

Once again - wow. What a story.

Originally posted by Gamblor187
I may have to turn to Ebay for the rest.

Originally posted by Kevin M. Dean
Amazon seems to have all of the more recent books. The science fiction book club also carries the 3 trilogies.

In Sheridan's final days, old friends gather to celebrate. Takes place in 2281, approximately twenty years after the end of the rest of the series.

Sheridan's disappearance echoes the disappearance of Valen, who is presumed dead but whose body was never found ("Atonement"). Was Valen spirited away by Lorien as well?

Why did the station fall into disuse over time? It's true that its political mission became irrelevant with the founding of the Interstellar Alliance, but that was only one of several purposes the station served: it was also a bustling trade hub located in a convenient area of space, an outpost of the Earth Alliance, a way station for people travelling elsewhere, and after the founding of the Alliance, a place of historical interest as well.

One possibility is that it became less and less convenient relative to other hubs as the Alliance equalized member races' technologies, causing, for instance, artificial gravity to become the norm. Better hyperspace navigation technology might have made it irrelevant as a waypoint and less necessary as a trading center.

Still, the argument about it being a hazard to navigation seems a bit odd; in the vastness of space, it's a tiny speck. Granted, it's possible to emerge out of control from the jumpgate and be on a collision course with the station ("Soul Hunter") but a slight change of orbital position would almost certainly eliminate that possibility.

Since Garibaldi is still alive and well in 2281, he wasn't killed by either Lyta or Bester during the Telepath War, which had already taken place by the time of Sheridan's death (Delenn mentioned it at the end of "Rising Star"). Was his mental block removed? Did he get his revenge on Bester, and did Lyta succeed in destroying the Corps?

Why didn't any Soul Hunters ("Soul Hunter") arrive to capture Sheridan's soul at Coriana 6? He almost certainly fits the profile of a soul worth preserving in their view. A few possibilities: he was taken away by Lorien, but didn't die per se; the Soul Hunters changed their policies or disbanded after the events of "The River of Souls"; or Lorien somehow prevented them from approaching.

Originally posted by das Monkey
*sniffle*

What do we do now?

das

Originally posted by JMS in 1999

Garibaldi's death (a much quieter passing than he would have imagined waiting for him), Franklin's final fate on a distant, unexplored planet, Delenn's final journey (a quest involving Valen, though no one else around her believes it), Lennier's sacrifice...it's all mapped out, on the theory that whether or not it ever gets used, *I* had to know it.

Originally posted by Josh-da-man
Ah, but there are still stories to be told:

Originally posted by dstrauss
IIRC, Lyta was supposed to appear in an episode of Crusade, but the scene was never shot.

Originally posted by dsw13

Oveall, I think Season 5 get a bad rap. I'd place it well ahead of Season 1 (although I suspect that one will improve on second viewing) and on par with Season 2. My only complaint about the second half of Season 5 is that I was really hoping to see more of the events that led to the Londo/G'kar scene that was shown in "War Without End".

Originally posted by das Monkey
I hope you realize now that it's time to "pay it forward." Perhaps by bumping the LIVE NUDE GIRLS thread and sharing your experience.

das

Originally posted by xVladx
Well, if you're interested in more detail on that, try reading Legions of Fire. It's a trilogy of books that (from what I've heard) pretty much fills in the exact gap you're talking about.

It's been mentioned before in this thread, but it bears repeating, that the Psi Corps Trilogy, Legions of Fire, as well as The Shadow Within and To Dream in the City of Sorrows are all great reading, and fill in pretty interesting parts of the story.

Originally posted by dsw13
I did see that in this thread, as well as others, and will likely get around to eventually tracking them down. Still, with the amount of times that they flashed forward to that particular scene over the course of the series, I was disappointed that the specifics of how they got to that point didn't make it into the final episodes. Of course, I might find when I read the books that the story behind it is so detailed that it would have required an additional season to really get into. If that's the case, it's certainly understandable that it wasn't covered.