I think Donald just assumed Marquis wanted something more flashy since the girls won with that type of proposal. What he said was, "If you would have met with the president you would have known they wanted a flashier campaign." How does Donald know what they wanted? Did he meet with them? I doubt it. I could be wrong though. I don't think the execs told the women much, other than basic info on their company. The burden was on the two teams to be creative and come up with something original. Why would NBC want to make it easier on the teams by being told what kind of campaign to design? I think it was silly that the jet company didn't get to pick the winner.

Well for the second straight episode the girls won by the age old motto: sex sells.

I tend to believe ANYONE who pulls out the race card is probably the most racist person there is. F - Ponderosa, she can take her racist ass back home. Hopefully the guys win next because I'm sure she will be the first to go if the gals lose.

I very much doubt that. As I said before - Donald has a stake in the success of the show. He knows that contestants like Ponderosa and Sam press other people's buttons and he knows that people will continue to watch to root against these people. I'm not saying Ponderosa and Sam will go to the end, but they will be kept around for at least a little while longer for ratings.

Well that just makes me wonder if maybe the guys just looked on their web-site and just came up with a generic campaign that looked similar to the style they were already using. They never did show the guys actually brainstorming and coming up with a thematic approach to their ads. I thought their commercial looked very high school or something you'd see on basic cable. And the ad guy that mentioned that the women's ad pushed the women's movement back by 70 years? I thought the same thing about the men's 1950's "I feel so much safer when my husband flies in his Marquis Jet" voiceover. Sheesh.

I thought the women's print ad pictures were extremely artful and very striking. They were the type of thing that made you look and you still think about them the next day. That is why they won. They had the high concept, "big idea."

Think of it in terms of a "concept car". The client may not run out and start printing these exact ads, but their presentation was enough to win them the job so the client knows they are creative. They can then go back and say "This is great, what else do you got?" and tweak it a bit.

The men's campaign was not enough to show what they were capable of doing. It seemed like they were just trying to develop an ad the client would already use instead of thinking in terms of how to take the clients' business in a new direction. And at the very start of the challenge, the advertising head told them to "be bold" and "think outside the box". They were looking for a Super Bowl-type ad campaign, not a basic cable ad.


I am still stunned at Ponderosa/Assorama's "pot/kettle" comment. Sheesh. I am extremely sensitive to racial slurs and all, but damn I have never heard that phrase accused of being racist. It makes me wonder how intelligent she is if she is not familiar with that common English idiom. You see, Ass-o-rama, a pot and a kettle are both made of cast iron and are both BLACK. A pot calling a kettle black is like you calling Ereka a bitch, see?


I agreed with the Donald's selection of Jason over Sam. Sure Sam is a train wreck, but the team's failure was all on Jason's shoulders. When the women's team first decided to meet with Marquis Jet, I thought "Wow, that is really smart." I was expecting that maybe no one on the men's team would think to do that. But the fact that several members suggested doing that and that Jason completely dismissed the idea was extremely dumb. Even if they hadn't have given the team any ideas, he had to know it would make him look bad to Trump. Jason's other huge mistake was in the boardroom. He told Trump flat-out that he did not give Sam anything important to do on the campaign. I think that sealed the deal right there. How can Jason blame Sam for their loss when he just admitted that Sam had nothing to do with the campaign?

It is funny that last week Jason was like "I would be a better leader because I would listen" and this week he did not listen to anybody at all.

I think Jason was fired for two reasons:

1. The obvious one: not meeting with the client. It's Advertising 101. It may not have been a fatal mistake, but it was a huge lapse of judgement.

2. Hanging Nick out to dry. You could tell that Trump didn't like that at all. Worst, Jason could give no reason for doing it. He should have come up with a better candidate as well as some reasons for picking that person.

You can tell that Trump already has his eye on certain candidates. Nick, for instance. Telling him that he's safe right up front says a lot.

As for Sam, I felt we didn't have enough information the whole falling asleep thing. What was his task? If Jason stuck him with dull busy work, that puts a different light on things. Plus, we don't know how long he slept, or what breaks the other guys took.

I agree that Jason was the one who deserved to get canned. The amazing fact is that he "used to work in advertising."

That was so hilarious when trump basically told Nick to sit down and shut up because he was safe.

Yep, I also agree with this. You can definitely tell that Trump already likes Nick AND that he values loyalty.

I think it would have been smart for Jason to say, when asked why he chose Nick, "Mr. Trump, Nick is the best member we have on our team. Our entire team is terrific. Sam is the only weak spot. I figured if I brought the best team member along with my worst team member then it would be easier for you to fire our worst team member." Or something like that.

That would have been extremely ballsy, but I bet it would have gotten Trump's attention. He would have also liked to hear Jason praise Nick like that. Trump might have actually saved Jason and fired Sam after that move. Trump appreciates balls.

Another thing that Jason did wrong was not owning up to his mistake. He only admitted that he had learned a valuable lesson after Trump asked him if he did. He should have came into that boardroom and immediately said "I made a huge error by not meeting with the client. I have definitely learned something valuable about business." I think Trump would have respected Jason more if he had been upfront and took responsibility for his actions.

The key to remember here is that there will be one winner. Ask Viper ... there are no points for second place. Trump's picking one of these people to be President, so the order in which they're eliminated is pointless. Once he decides the guy's no going to get the job, who cares whether the competitions are "fair" or whether kicking out another guy is a "better" decision. Jason clearly wasn't going to get the job, so time to go. Is he better than some others? Perhaps. But it's not about order. It's about finding one winner among the circumstances.

das

That would have been very wise. I fully agree with Nick. I also would have wanted an explanation from Jason. And Jason's "It had to be somebody" line was pathetic.

I think her name is Omarosa. She's definitely not a cowgirl.

Who? Mimosa?

das

I like Sam. I agree with Donny Trump, he's either really good or really bad.

And Jason said on last nights show that Sam was given one job, and he fell asleep doing it. But as far as I can tell, Sam got the job done. Sam did what he was asked. Who cares if he fell asleep doing it. So far I like Sam and Troy. As far as the girls, I like them cuz they're hot, I dont think they have done anything so far though that would make me want to hire them. The guys got jilted on the ad last night. Making a commercial in a matter of hours is of course going to look generic, but I would have definately just laughed and moved on with the girls ad.

If you had a task to complete for your job, completed it, and had nothing else on your plate, would you think is is okay to fall asleep at your desk? What do you think your boss would think?

How do you pick out the best diamond out of a pile of similar quality diamonds? By comparing them relatively to each other. Slowly one diamond is compared to another and the lower quality diamond is eliminated or "fired" in this case. The elimination process than becomes the most important part in picking out the best diamond. Therefore, how can you find the one winner without going through the elimination process? It's the same thing as saying we all going to die someday and if what happend from the day we born to the day we die is "pointless", why don't we just all kill ourselves now?

I have to think that after watching last night's show (the first that I've watched) that clowns like Sam and Ponderosa (or whatever the name is) are simply too valuable to the production to let loose in the first several episodes. It is reality TV, and what better than confrontation within. Jason made a fatal mistake in not going to the company, but at least he appeared to have the respect of his teammates. The same cannot be said for Sam...who no one seems to like. It all boils down to ratings and what sells the show. I did enjoy it however...pretty entertaining.

Does anyone else think that the guys losing the contest 2 times in a row could end up helping out one of the guys becoming the eventual champion? It seems that they are receiving more attention from Trump, and whether it be good or bad, as they say, any publicity is good publicity.

It just doesn't seem like the girls have received much attention from Trump except to receive a little praise every once in a while. He really seems to be getting to know the guys, though, as individuals.

well, we learned the lesson once again today......... the way to make it in business is to shake your booty................

man Sam looked like he was going to go postal at the end of the show.

Well well...



Brian

Man I can't stand Amergrossa.

the previews for next week's show have the girls getting lectured on the unprofessionalism of using their sex appeal. Man, imagine Trump telling women he isn't interested in them for their looks, priceless

That's good, every challenge seems like it involves flashing their knockers to win (altho I must admit they did a good job on the news ad).

It wasn't Donald lecturing them, it was that CEO woman. And she is delirious if she thinks her looks had nothing to do with her getting that job.

I was waiting for laser beams to shoot out Sam's eyes and Trump's head to explode after he told Sam he was fired

well, he's standing by her, he probably says something......... and yeah I agree with you the COO's looks probably did have something to do with her getting her position.

Sam was like an "American Idol" contestant. He just doesn't get it.