Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
01-24-13 | 09:43 AM
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Re: Real Time With Bill Maher, Season 11 (2013)
It wasn't said as being ironic, it was Climate Change Denialism.
Maher said to Michelle Caruso-Cabrera: "You don't believe in Climate Change, do you?"
She said "no" and then went on that simply because Al Gore, a major climate change proponent, sold his company to Al Jazeera, a media company that happens to be based in a major oil producing area of the world, it somehow sets back the entire idea of Climate Change.
That not pointing out irony, it's some seriously screwy thinking.
Maher said to Michelle Caruso-Cabrera: "You don't believe in Climate Change, do you?"
She said "no" and then went on that simply because Al Gore, a major climate change proponent, sold his company to Al Jazeera, a media company that happens to be based in a major oil producing area of the world, it somehow sets back the entire idea of Climate Change.
That not pointing out irony, it's some seriously screwy thinking.
01-25-13 | 08:09 PM
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Re: Real Time With Bill Maher, Season 11 (2013)
The Interview:
Nancy Pelosi (D-California) is the House Democratic Leader and has represented San Francisco in Congress for 25 years. She was the first woman in American history to serve as Speaker of the House and the first woman to lead a major political party in Congress. This Wednesday, she announced plans to reintroduce the Violence Against Women Act in the 113th Congress.
The Panel:
Howard Dean is the former Governor of Vermont and Chair of the Democratic National Committee. Dean told the Burlington Free Press that he thought President Obama's second inaugural address "was very different from his [first] inaugural, where he was talking about that everybody was going to work together and so on...I think he means to get things done whether the Republicans want to work with him or not."
Kristen Soltis is a Republican pollster and Vice President at The Winston Group, a DC-based polling and consulting firm. Soltis is a regular contributor to various media outlets and recently blogged for U.S. News and World Report about the changing attitudes on abortion in the 40 years since Roe v. Wade.
David Avella is the president of GOPAC, an organization dedicated to "nurturing a new generation of Republicans leaders by providing them a platform for promoting their ideas and conservative policies."
Mid-Show Guest:
Senator Jon Tester (D-Montana) will join the panel mid-show. He has served in the U.S. Senate since 2006 and was recently quoted by Montana's Beartooth NBC telling state legislators, "I support overturning Citizens United because like most Montanans I see it as a kick in the teeth to democracy."
Nancy Pelosi (D-California) is the House Democratic Leader and has represented San Francisco in Congress for 25 years. She was the first woman in American history to serve as Speaker of the House and the first woman to lead a major political party in Congress. This Wednesday, she announced plans to reintroduce the Violence Against Women Act in the 113th Congress.
The Panel:
Howard Dean is the former Governor of Vermont and Chair of the Democratic National Committee. Dean told the Burlington Free Press that he thought President Obama's second inaugural address "was very different from his [first] inaugural, where he was talking about that everybody was going to work together and so on...I think he means to get things done whether the Republicans want to work with him or not."
Kristen Soltis is a Republican pollster and Vice President at The Winston Group, a DC-based polling and consulting firm. Soltis is a regular contributor to various media outlets and recently blogged for U.S. News and World Report about the changing attitudes on abortion in the 40 years since Roe v. Wade.
David Avella is the president of GOPAC, an organization dedicated to "nurturing a new generation of Republicans leaders by providing them a platform for promoting their ideas and conservative policies."
Mid-Show Guest:
Senator Jon Tester (D-Montana) will join the panel mid-show. He has served in the U.S. Senate since 2006 and was recently quoted by Montana's Beartooth NBC telling state legislators, "I support overturning Citizens United because like most Montanans I see it as a kick in the teeth to democracy."
01-25-13 | 10:29 PM
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Re: Real Time With Bill Maher, Season 11 (2013)
The topic came to mass shootings and how they're often "rich white kids" doing the shootings. He leapt to associating them with video games. White kids play video games = white kids shooting up schools
It took the Republican guy to counter that video games have no correlation to mass shootings.
It took the Republican guy to counter that video games have no correlation to mass shootings.
01-26-13 | 02:27 AM
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Bill's diatribe against sports obsession and faux masculinity was beautiful. Not enough attention is given to how overblown sports are in our culture.
01-26-13 | 04:38 AM
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Re: Real Time With Bill Maher, Season 11 (2013)
The topic came to mass shootings and how they're often "rich white kids" doing the shootings. He leapt to associating them with video games. White kids play video games = white kids shooting up schools
It took the Republican guy to counter that video games have no correlation to mass shootings.
It took the Republican guy to counter that video games have no correlation to mass shootings.
I'd be interested to look at the studies that violent media has no effect influencing people or reinforcing violent tendencies. Many people are quick to shoot down the idea that violent television, film, music, and video games plays influence people. However, not so many people are quick to brush off racist or alleged prejudiced entertainment.
Some political cartoons and a youtube video prompted people to commit murder and riot. People critical of the cartoons and video were saying it adds to religious bigotry and prejudice towards Muslims and/or people of Middle Eastern descent.
Joe Camel advertisements supposedly influences kids to smoke that brand of cigarettes.
Product placement in films can be very effective.
But violence in music, film, and video games has no effect on society? As long as it's enjoyed by the masses and makes money, people will rationalize almost anything.
01-26-13 | 11:24 AM
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Re: Real Time With Bill Maher, Season 11 (2013)
Violence has been entertainment for centuries. I personally think that video games, like sports, reduce violence because it is a way to let out your aggression. That's not to say that some individuals cannot be inspired by violent media but I think the overall harm is negligible. We are violent by nature. We don't need media to show us how to be violent.
01-26-13 | 12:47 PM
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Re: Real Time With Bill Maher, Season 11 (2013)
Kristen Soltis was adorable, and even further endearing due to being a sane and reasonable Republican. She's like a fucking unicorn!
01-26-13 | 01:18 PM
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I didn't really think much of Bill's final word last night. I'm not sure I really even understood the point he was trying to make.
01-26-13 | 03:11 PM
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As for not enough attention given to how overblown sports in our culture. Oh boohoo that complete bullshit. Sports isn't anymore overblown than movies, TV, politics etc. It isn't overblown, it is what it is. Something we enjoy watching, rooting for our favorite team just like we like watching movies, tv, listening to music, etc.
01-26-13 | 03:13 PM
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Yeah that's what I thinking too. It's like he didn't have it well thought and ended up all over the place. Incorporating sports culture into gun culture? Weird.
01-26-13 | 03:42 PM
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Bill is hypocrite for that. He goes on this little rant about sports and yet earlier in the show while interviewing Pelosi he mentions rooting for the 49ers to her a few times and as recently as last week he decides to switch the topic to talking about Te'o. No one forced him to do it he took it upon himself to start that conversation up so Bill's 'diatribe' or whatever you call it sounded like a hypocrite.
As for not enough attention given to how overblown sports in our culture. Oh boohoo that complete bullshit. Sports isn't anymore overblown than movies, TV, politics etc. It isn't overblown, it is what it is. Something we enjoy watching, rooting for our favorite team just like we like watching movies, tv, listening to music, etc.
As for not enough attention given to how overblown sports in our culture. Oh boohoo that complete bullshit. Sports isn't anymore overblown than movies, TV, politics etc. It isn't overblown, it is what it is. Something we enjoy watching, rooting for our favorite team just like we like watching movies, tv, listening to music, etc.
It's wrong to think that sports are just the same as movies and TV. I live in Norman Oklahoma. This town is entirely maroon because of OU. There aren't Django Unchained banners at Taco Bell and every other restaurant in town. This town lives and breaths football. Sports has been very huge in our society for a long time, more so than movies, TV and music.
It made sense to me.
01-26-13 | 03:47 PM
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Re: Real Time With Bill Maher, Season 11 (2013)
There is a huge difference between an interest and an obsession, rooting for a team is not the same as dressing in the uniform, painting your face and beating up fans from the other team.
01-26-13 | 03:57 PM
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Re: Real Time With Bill Maher, Season 11 (2013)
Bill Maher accepts Climate Change, she denies it. Just because he let her comments slide doesn't mean he agrees with them.
Climate Change is real regardless of anything Al Gore does or says. She does not seem to understand the idea that it is real science and. hence, is independent of any individual person and instead she seems to think that the whole thing is somehow based on Al Gore.
Climate Change is real regardless of anything Al Gore does or says. She does not seem to understand the idea that it is real science and. hence, is independent of any individual person and instead she seems to think that the whole thing is somehow based on Al Gore.
01-26-13 | 03:59 PM
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Nothing wrong with it if you are going to a game wearing a jersey or painting your face. Give me a break.
01-26-13 | 04:01 PM
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I think you can enjoy sports and talk about sports and not be a nut about sports. I don't think Bill is a hypocrite because he talked about it. There are some people who take sports way too seriously.
It's wrong to think that sports are just the same as movies and TV. I live in Norman Oklahoma. This town is entirely maroon because of OU. There aren't Django Unchained banners at Taco Bell and every other restaurant in town. This town lives and breaths football. Sports has been very huge in our society for a long time, more so than movies, TV and music.
It made sense to me.
It's wrong to think that sports are just the same as movies and TV. I live in Norman Oklahoma. This town is entirely maroon because of OU. There aren't Django Unchained banners at Taco Bell and every other restaurant in town. This town lives and breaths football. Sports has been very huge in our society for a long time, more so than movies, TV and music.
It made sense to me.
01-26-13 | 04:03 PM
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Re: Real Time With Bill Maher, Season 11 (2013)
rooting for a team is not the same as dressing in the uniform, painting your face and beating up fans from the other team.
quote my post accurately
01-26-13 | 04:04 PM
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01-26-13 | 04:12 PM
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Re: Real Time With Bill Maher, Season 11 (2013)
Bill Maher accepts Climate Change, she denies it. Just because he let her comments slide doesn't mean he agrees with them.
Climate Change is real regardless of anything Al Gore does or says. She does not seem to understand the idea that it is real science and. hence, is independent of any individual person and instead she seems to think that the whole thing is somehow based on Al Gore.
Climate Change is real regardless of anything Al Gore does or says. She does not seem to understand the idea that it is real science and. hence, is independent of any individual person and instead she seems to think that the whole thing is somehow based on Al Gore.
01-26-13 | 04:13 PM
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you are not able to understand the common sense points being told to you, not a surprise since you could not understand the point maher was making and still can not even after it is explained to you like a 5 year old so give us all a break
rooting for a team is not the same as dressing in the uniform, painting your face and beating up fans from the other team.
quote my post accurately
rooting for a team is not the same as dressing in the uniform, painting your face and beating up fans from the other team.
quote my post accurately
As for me not quoting you accurately I left out the part about beating up fans from other teams because that is the being obsessive.
How bout you take your own advice and understand when someone bolds A PART of your posts that's what they are really responding to and not be a condescending asshole about it.
No wonder you have so very low post totals you should probably keep it that way.
01-26-13 | 04:17 PM
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Re: Real Time With Bill Maher, Season 11 (2013)
nevermind , i would get more out of this if i was arguing with a tree stump, bye.
seriously a comment about post count, are you like 12
seriously a comment about post count, are you like 12
01-26-13 | 04:20 PM
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Of course there is a difference, but what point is he trying to make? Bill is obsessed with bashing republicans and religions. Is he trying to compensate his masculinity? People have obsessions for everything. Doesn't mean there is anything wrong with it.
01-26-13 | 04:22 PM
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maybe he is but that does not invalidate his point, he was relating it to the defense budget
01-26-13 | 08:38 PM
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Re: Real Time With Bill Maher, Season 11 (2013)
I'm not even sure he gets how he comes off to everyone else.
edit: now I see he called you an asshole as well. Very nice.