So...waitasec...if next week's was originally supposed to be this weeks...

where does that leave things...?

J.J. Abrams did an interview on TV Guide, and from what he said, I think they made the decision to switch episodes early enough so that continuity wouldn't be all messed up. So they knew that the episodes would be switched when filming.

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No. I think MrX had it right. And I mean, think about it.
And I'm sorry to keep nit-picking (because I really did like the show)... but was Sydney crashing the airplane in what looked to be a residential area (there were houses in the background after Sydney hopped out of the plane)... or at least near a residential area... the best way to handle things? It was cool as hell, but geez. I guess it's one way to erase any evidence that she was on the flight.

That's what I thought for a sec, too.

Holy Mary Mother of God! I cannot believe this episode! Simply amazing.

(too bad I had to wait until after ABC and the local sports show post-Super Bowl programs - an extra damn hour, but it was worth the wait.

I was wondering

Could someone please re-acquaint me w/ K-directorate, please? Is that who Irina (Syd's mom) and Sark worked for? I only saw a few eps last season and I am pretty sure I have only missed one or two this year, but I can't remember what the K-directorate is for certain. Thank You.

Enjoyed it quite a bit. But for someone watching for the first time it was really not that easy to follow. I still think ABC should and could rerun all the episodes on ABC Family.

Jennifer Garner is hot but she also has a presence that makes it more than just waiting for the next shot of her undressing. But I'm still looking foward to the next time she does.

Some of you seem kind of harsh to people who are just tuning it for the first time and maybe don't get it yet. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Bottom line is with all the ads from the Super Bowl, I felt the need to finally sit down and try to watch the show and it was well worth it. I think that ABC probably brought a whole lot of new viewers to the show tonight. Whether people stay or not, you never know. If Star Search can whoop Ed, I can't figure what people are thinking anymore.

If I remember right K-directorate is another evil group that is a rival of SD-6. Sys's mom and Sark didn't work for them, as a matter of fact I think Sark killed their guy in charge in a episode last seaon.

They were also after the Rambaldii artifacts last season and they had Anna Espinoza, who was played by Gina Torres from Firefly, who was their version of Syd.

Whatever I missed I'm sure someone will fill in

Man, I knew the episode was gonna be big, but that last bit COMPLETELY threw me off. And I agree, I think Irina has a big part in it. JJ seems to like doing this - dropping a character for a few months so that you forget about him/her, and then reintroduce them in a signifcant role that you would've never imagined them in because you hadn't seen them in so long.

I don't agree with it, but I guess I can understand it. To people who are emotionally invested in the characters of the show and the show itself, tonight's episode was huge. But people who are turning in for the first time have no idea about

- the ups and downs of Sydney & Vaughn's relationship (still, that kiss was ridiculous)
- Sark's rivalry and now alliance with Sloane
- Sloane's conflicts with the Alliance and how tonight's events looked to be a definite resolution to them
- Sydney and Dixon's relationship
- Sydney's relationship to Danny Hecht, Will, and Francie

and I could probably keep on going. To them, tonight's episode was a chick walking around in lingerie, that dude from Titanic/Sleepless in Seattle (fixed!) getting tortured, and standard SWAT-going-gangbusters-into-an-office-building fare that concluded with that lingerie chick swapping spit with one of her CIA buddies.

Go to the alias web site on abc. They have episode recaps. It should help new viewers catch up.

http://abc.abcnews.go.com/primetime/...isode101a.html

Good episode but you can tell they were over explaining things for the people that hadnt watched it and was it me or did they change the music during the show. It sounded like cheesy spy movie music.

Good last scene with Francie. Hmmm.
Maybe she might actually have something to do on the show now>?

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I don't agree with it, but I guess I can understand it. To people who are emotionally invested in the characters of the show and the show itself, tonight's episode was huge. But people who are turning in for the first time have no idea about

- the ups and downs of Sydney & Vaughn's relationship (still, that kiss was ridiculous)
- Sark's rivalry and now alliance with Sloane
- Sloane's conflicts with the Alliance and how tonight's events looked to be a definite resolution to them
- Sydney and Dixon's relationship
- Sydney's relationship to Danny Hecht, Wil, and Francie

and I could probably keep on going. To them, tonight's episode was a chick walking around in lingerie, that dude from Home Alone getting tortured, and standard SWAT-going-gangbusters-into-an-office-building fare that concluded with that lingerie chick swapping spit with one of her CIA buddies.

Well said.

But, I don't know if it's just an emotional investment. I think it's the lack of respect that these networks have for the fans that are watching. [I mean, really now...when are they going to fix the way the Nielsens work?] And then to casually dismiss a show's "low ratings" as being the result of having to do "hard work" [which I suppose shall furthermore be known as the "Hammer Defense"] is ridiculous. How hard could it be to go to a site like the one ten41 listed and read a synopsis of past eps? Granted, they might not pick up every little nuance...but it's more than ABC is willing to invest during valuable "Bachelorette/Celebrity Mole" air time.

So now what? People jump on tonite...

What happens in the future when references to the past are made? Will we be getting another "Very Special Lingerie Episode" of Alias? [with Nametags ]

I did forget to add that the kiss between Sydney and Vaughn just seemed way out of place. Are they going to emphasize the romance more so "Everyone" will like it?

Yeah, the kiss was really cheesy. In fact, much of the episode was pretty cheesy. I loved the plot developments, but the execution just lacked the delicate style that we're treated to each week. I hope that's just a side effect of trying to pack a lot into one episode and retain new viewers at the same time and that we'll be back to normal next week.

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I did forget to add that the kiss between Sydney and Vaughn just seemed way out of place. Are they going to emphasize the romance more so "Everyone" will like it?

"Out of place"???

My girlfriend was expecting to see Syd step out of the shower...

That's cool, they have added Rutger Hauer to the cas........NEVERMIND!!!

When Sydney and Vaughn began to kiss for a second I thought the whole episode was going to be a dream.

Exactly.

-keyser "she did look better in the black one" soze
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So you're arguing that a show owes it to you, the loyal viewer from day one, and shouldn't do a little (or even go out of its way) to bring in new viewers?

That's seems to be a form of television show snobbery. "It's mine and not yours." I highly doubt that ABC or any other show or network thinks after a year or so (or even 2 or 3) that potential new viewers are only going to go and read episode recaps to capture the emotional connection they've missed in past episodes.

I've only followed one show from day one that has been a huge hit over the past decade and that was the X-Files. I never had a problem with the show re-explaining itself or making an effort to "soften" itself to bring in new viewers as the X-Files did for the movie.

If the "loyal" viewers of the show were the only interest of the writers, producers, and the network than the X-Files would never have grown after season 1, season 2 at most. And seasons 3 and 4 were probably the best and highest rated. So I think it was ended up being good for the loyal viewer, the new viewer, and the network.

I am not trying to act like I have any idea of what was different about this episode from ones past or mean any disrespect to those who do know more or felt this episode was too gratuitous in exploiting Jennifer Garner's appearance or making relationships more palatable for the new viewers. But it seems like a minor inconvenience if it helps the show grow a larger core audience who, likely, will grow to be as fond of the charcters as you are.

I think the "hot chick" was just an actress that had been on Felicity to everyone else before the show aired. To the new viewers who might have tuned in to see the girl in the lingerie, after enjoying, understanding, and catching up (which will require reading recaps, watching future episodes, and learning from people who have been with the show from the start), she'll be the same complex Sydney (who just happens to look wonderful in various states of undress) as she is to you.

Victor Garber wasn't in Home Alone. He did go down with the ship in Titanic though.

Shoot. You're right. I thought he was the dad, but that's someone else. They look alike. Kinda. If you squint your eyes.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I half expected Sydney or Vaughn to wake up and the whole episode was a dream. It's sad but I'm really psyched that Francie is dead. Maybe now they'll give her something to do! Poor Will though, I've actually liked his character from the beginning and now that he can get some, she'll turn out to be a bad guy. Wasn't he supposed to leave town with Francie? It's going to be very interesting to see what direction the show is going to head in now. Gotta wonder what will happen to Dixon. I'm pretty sure Marshall will become a CIA geek instead of a SD-6 geek.

Actually, ABC Family did have an Alias marathon last year. That's how I first got into the show. I originally didn't watch it int he beginning, but the marathon allowed me to catch up.

I agree, though, it probably is time for another one.


I didn't mind the kiss, but could have done without the earlier cheesy dialogue from Vaughan. Everty time he tries and talk to Syd about his feelings, he sounds as if he is reading from a greeting card. There was an earlier scene this season thatwas also cheesy.

I had been wanting Syd to tell Dixon the truth about SD-6 for so long that it seemed somehow anti-climactic the way she finally did.

SD-6 is normally so tight on security, how was Dixon able to just send that email all nonchalantly? I guess Rutger Hauer was too busy torturing Jack to notice they were about to get raided.

I really liked the ending with Francie.