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Old 01-08-08 | 05:28 PM
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Argh...I was looking forward to watching this all day while at work and come home to find it nowhere in my HBO On Demand listings. Damn you Comcast!
This happened to me to with my WOW cable service, but a lot of the time it's because my On Demand screen is not refreshing itself over the wire. I pulled the power from the cable box, plugged it back in, let it reboot, and next time I went in it refreshed properly and the episode was there. YMMV.
Old 01-08-08 | 06:08 PM
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I liked this episode more than I did last week's, but I'm bothered by Avon and McNulty acting out of character. When Bunk bails on Jimmy, you know he's gone too far. I don't like where McNulty's character is heading at all, and in retrospect think that he peaked at being 'good police' in Season 4. Avon? No way he so easily helps Marlo become the king without serious incentive. And 100 large to his sister ain't it...

Other than that, it was a good episode. I wonder what will come of Michael's questioning of Marlo's decision. I also like all the political stuff involving Carcetti, Davis, and Commissioner Burrell. I think the biggest thing I'm waiting for is for Omar to be tested. As great an anti-villain as he is, I wouldn't mind seeing him fall either.

Someone above said there was only 8 more episodes left. Is this a 10 episode season?
Old 01-08-08 | 06:56 PM
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I liked this episode more than I did last week's, but I'm bothered by Avon and McNulty acting out of character. When Bunk bails on Jimmy, you know he's gone too far. I don't like where McNulty's character is heading at all, and in retrospect think that he peaked at being 'good police' in Season 4. Avon? No way he so easily helps Marlo become the king without serious incentive. And 100 large to his sister ain't it...

Other than that, it was a good episode. I wonder what will come of Michael's questioning of Marlo's decision. I also like all the political stuff involving Carcetti, Davis, and Commissioner Burrell. I think the biggest thing I'm waiting for is for Omar to be tested. As great an anti-villain as he is, I wouldn't mind seeing him fall either.

Someone above said there was only 8 more episodes left. Is this a 10 episode season?
10 episode season... HBO wanted to give them 8 episodes, David Simon and Co. appealed for 12, so HBO gave them 10. So it should result in a much faster paced season.
Old 01-08-08 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CKMorpheus
Can someone shed some light on why this happens to some people? My girlfriend has HBO-On-Demand and she is not getting them a week in advance.
Some of the folks at AICN had problems with it too, I believe there's an explanation here:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35201

Edit: And Flay, thanks for the informaton on Marlo/Vondas. I only saw it a few weeks ago and forgot the details already. *slaps self*

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Old 01-09-08 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by kneijst1
I wonder if Avon is up for parole again soon and is looking for other people to help take down Marlo before he gets out...
At the end of Season 3 when he got arrested by McNulty and the detail, McNulty said that they might not get him on anything else but he'd serve his entire 7 (?) due to parole violations. Not sure the exact time line of the show but he could very well have 5-6 years time served by now depending on time between seasons (seems like it's been a little over a year between 4 and 5.
Old 01-09-08 | 08:38 PM
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@ Marlo calling Sergei "Boris" like in Season 2.
Old 01-10-08 | 04:33 AM
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@ Marlo calling Sergei "Boris" like in Season 2.
The only thing missing was Sergei letting out a big sigh and saying "Boris...Why must it always be Boris."

Also Liked seeing Clay Davis go off on one of his rants. "I'm doing the Lord's work."
Old 01-10-08 | 09:18 AM
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Old 01-10-08 | 02:14 PM
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Who knows where this storyline with McNutty will go. I can't imagine it'll be successful given the fact that he changed the crime scene (most notably the position of the body) knowing that the "beat cop" was first on the scene and has to write on it in his report. Earlier in the ep though, at the bar, McNutty did say something to the effect of, "...there has to be some way to get them to turn on the faucet...".

Does anyone have any idea what Freamon was listening to on his stakeout? It sounded like a live recording and I'd love to have it.
Old 01-11-08 | 03:50 PM
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i hope avon plays a big role this season
Old 01-12-08 | 06:16 PM
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Hopefully the greatest show in the history of television will finally get its due and win the Emmy award for Best Drama.

I am seriously getting tired of aweful shows like Grey's Anatomy and Boston Legal getting legitimacy and shows like Deadwood and The Wire getting ignored because networks have their lapdogs who vote for those shows.
Old 01-12-08 | 10:04 PM
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Hopefully the greatest show in the history of television will finally get its due and win the Emmy award for Best Drama.

I am seriously getting tired of aweful shows like Grey's Anatomy and Boston Legal getting legitimacy and shows like Deadwood and The Wire getting ignored because networks have their lapdogs who vote for those shows.
That may be part of it, but I think the biggest reason is that Emmy voters just don't watch it. The Wire isn't an easy show where everything gets wrapped up in a nice pretty bow at the end of every episode. It's also never gotten the "buzz" of other HBO shows like the Six Feet Under and the Sopranos. It's too vast and complex for most viewers, and it's definitely not really a show for casual viewers.

If it didn't win an Emmy for season four then it's never going to win an Emmy. Honestly, I was holding out hopes last year for the Golden Globes because they have more limited voting, but it didn't even get a nomination there either.
Old 01-14-08 | 09:52 AM
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First, great episode. The Wire proves yet again why it is so awesome. Bunk's reaction to Jimmy was so perfect....that is what separates good writers from bad ones. This yet another example of The Wire showing everything that was going on without it getting too long. I also really like where the fabricated story plot is going. Someone needs to speak out the total lack of integrity in the media today.

Second, The Wire doesn't win Emmys for a number of reasons. The cast isn't pretty. You have to watch a whole season to "get it". The subject matter is not a cookie cutter one. Visually, it isn't a stunning show (but if you look it for what it is try to portray it actually is). And of course only a few people know about it. However, that is not to say that shows like Grey's and Boston Legal are bad. Grey's does tend to get very heavy handed with things...and Boston Legal tends to show only one side of an issue, but they are both very entertaining. But the Emmy voters (who I believe are like the Family Guy writers as shown on South Park) can't decide what they want. Sure Lost won in season 1, but season 2 was better (my opinion of course). So did they go with the times or did they actually get it right? When you are trying to cater to the audience watching the awards, the real winners get thrown aside. It's a shame, but that is reality.
Old 01-14-08 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by darkessenz

The newspaper staff was a little over the top so far. The chars seemed a bit cartoony, and I think that the show jumped too quickly into their foibles without fleshing them out a bit. (Contrast with Berrell, who is the perfect banal beaurocratic villain).

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Well they only have 10 episodes to get into the meat of it, but as usual I've been enjoying Tim Goodman's Deconstructions of the episodes, and more so in regard to the journalism piece, as he works for a newspaper..

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...dexn?blogid=24


example.

+ Bigwig editor: “If you leave everything in, soon you’ve got nothing.” And to the notion of explaining complicated stories and themes to readers: “Who wants to read that?” While it’s true that Simon has one or seven axes to grind with journalism and certain newspapers, you can’t say the guy is wrong. Everybody in this business has seen an editor like that. Or more. And remember, the whole point of Season 5, according to Simon, is that if everything the series illuminated in the first four seasons is true, then why hasn’t anyone noticed or fixed it. The onus, he says, falls on the press, which is where we find ourselves in Season 5.
Old 01-14-08 | 11:06 AM
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Looks like Snoop has an Autobigraphy, I would think it could be interesting to read.

Grace After Midnight: A Memoir - Felicia Pearson.
Old 01-14-08 | 12:36 PM
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Let me just say...BARLOW IS BACK! His disappearance bothered me...he was in the first episode and seemed like he'd be a staple, but he never returned....until now.

Also, can't wait to see Omar whoop some ass.
Old 01-14-08 | 06:44 PM
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Wow. This was a great episode. Far better than the premiere. Seeing Avon back brought a smile on my face.

I was concerned about the newspaper angle with the first episode, but after this one I firmly believe this will be better than the school plot from last year.

That drive by scene was classic Wire. "Fuck those West-Coast niggas". x 484654
Old 01-14-08 | 08:21 PM
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Oh yeah, I liked the Six Flags stuff, mainly because I used to go to that one with my friends back in the day. Interesting that Michael didn't know where Fairfax was, guess that shows how much they are just a part of one city.
Old 01-14-08 | 11:52 PM
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The Wire Episode 53 "Not for Attribution" (1/20, now on Demand)

Wow, best episode of the season so far.

and from the preview it looks like

Spoiler:
Prop Joe is gonna get got
in the next episode.
Old 01-15-08 | 12:02 AM
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Loved all the stuff in the precinct this week. McNutty trying to get his idiot coworker to remember his murder. Bunk getting increasingly frustrated. I'm with Bunk though; I can't believe Lester is going with the plan. My favorite scene had to be the patrol guys catching Jimmy though.

I think this season is going to get bloody, especially with Omar coming back. There are times I like Chris and Snoop, but that's just not right. Given his reservations I wonder if Michael will survive the show.
Old 01-15-08 | 01:55 AM
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I have to agree, best episode so far. I'm in the same boat on Lester getting on board with McNutty...just seems way out of character.
Old 01-15-08 | 04:35 AM
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Why does Prop Joe continue to school Marlo? He seems to setting himself to stabbed in the back or shot in the back by Marlo.

As for people acting out of character I don't know. Someone posted a link to blog about The Wire that pointed out that these characters have changed over the course of the series some gradually that we may not have noticed.

Watching this episode I wasn't too surprised that Lester went along with McNulty's plan. Lester to me just had that..."This just crazy enough to work." kind of look on his face.

One more thing I think its safe to say...IT"S ON NOW!!!!!
Old 01-15-08 | 10:01 AM
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Did Marlo get a fake passport?

Otherwise, I can't believe he could get one that fast.
Old 01-15-08 | 10:04 AM
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Did Marlo get a fake passport?

Otherwise, I can't believe he could get one that fast.
haha maybe there was a 4 month skip
Old 01-15-08 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by brocklanders
Hopefully the greatest show in the history of television will finally get its due and win the Emmy award for Best Drama.

I am seriously getting tired of aweful shows like Grey's Anatomy and Boston Legal getting legitimacy and shows like Deadwood and The Wire getting ignored because networks have their lapdogs who vote for those shows.
I'm going to stop short of saying that the show isn't "white" enough for award consideration but the only other thing I can think of is that they just aren't sending episodes in for consideration. Even if the show isn't your thing, even though I have never read anything but glowing reviews for the show, how don't individual actors get consideration? In what world wouldn't Clarke Peters (Freamon), Andre Royo (Bubbles), and Idris Elba (Stringer Bell) not be considered of having given one of the best performances on TV in any given year? I'm not even going to mention actors like Micheal Williams (Omar)or the work that J.D. Williams (Boodie) did in just one episode of season 4.

I just don't get it.


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