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Ah damn! Shows how much I know, I got sucked in because my GF watches the show and I thought it was tonight! BAH! Oh well, lets see how bad these idiots act tonight
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Nah. Shannon's fun. I feel the show still sucks but it would suck more without her. I would like to see the old fart, Kent, go then Nicole then Hardy.
That Will is something else. He doesn't have any self-respect to go sucking up to Nicole when it's so blatently obvious what his motives are.
How do they get Chill Town label anyway? I missed a few episodes. Chill town and the real people are dumb.
That Will is something else. He doesn't have any self-respect to go sucking up to Nicole when it's so blatently obvious what his motives are.
How do they get Chill Town label anyway? I missed a few episodes. Chill town and the real people are dumb.
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Originally posted by big whoppa
Nah. Shannon's fun. I feel the show still sucks but it would suck more without her. I would like to see the old fart, Kent, go then Nicole then Hardy.
That Will is something else. He doesn't have any self-respect to go sucking up to Nicole when it's so blatently obvious what his motives are.
How do they get Chill Town label anyway? I missed a few episodes. Chill town and the real people are dumb.
Nah. Shannon's fun. I feel the show still sucks but it would suck more without her. I would like to see the old fart, Kent, go then Nicole then Hardy.
That Will is something else. He doesn't have any self-respect to go sucking up to Nicole when it's so blatently obvious what his motives are.
How do they get Chill Town label anyway? I missed a few episodes. Chill town and the real people are dumb.
Then ofcourse he got kicked out for the whole knife incident.
Tonight should be wild, plenty of stuff happened over the last few days to show. So many fights and arguments!!!!
Basically it will be the "Shannon show" tonight I imagine.
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Will, Shannon, and Mike are at least interesting. Personally I'd like to see Mike and Krista make it to the end. Autum was a spaz. Nicole is a freak. Kent is a homophobe (who now pretends not to be). Hardy is the kinda guy you have sex with because he's supposedly good looking, then you wonder why you never came (he has no personality). Bunky, is a bit of a wuz, but funny to watch. Krista's accent is a turn-on in a weird way. Mike would be much cooler if he quit that phuckin dance he does. Will and Shannon, sure they're freaks, but they add some spice. And yeah, Monica will probably win and she seems the nicest, but who wants to watch that. At least my favorites are still around after two weeks. In the first BB the only people I cared about were the first two to go. Then we were left with a whining brady bunch. GOD I HATED THAT PIPPY LONGSTOCKINGS BITCH AND HER MOM.
By the way, who is Julie Chen blowing to be kept around as the host? Does anyone actually like her?
By the way, who is Julie Chen blowing to be kept around as the host? Does anyone actually like her?
#81
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Wow, strong opinions. I pretty much agree about this group especially the comment about Hardy.
I think Krista has a very good shot of becoming the last one standing.
I think Krista has a very good shot of becoming the last one standing.
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Holy smoke! I was snickering as well when they showed Shannon brushing the toilet with Hardy's toothbrush!
I can't believe how stupid Hardy has been with his dealings with Shannon. He kept falling for the "yellow, coward" accusation lines over and over. She kept changing the subject from her egregious actions by always labelling Hardy as being "yellow and cowardly". And he kept digging himself deeper and deeper. Of course, the house may just keep Shannon around and keep messing with her (plus, Nicole really does need Shannon around as her personal trainer).
I'm wondering if Hardy isn't homosexual, he was getting all "ver klempt" in the hammock with Nicole. Almost reminded me of Bunky.
I was also giggling when Bunky was saying grace before the meal that Nicole fixed for the house. Poor Mike got bagged on that one. And what was with Hardy doing crunches while everyone else was at the table eating? Talk about bad strategy.
If I were Hardy, I would have ignored everything Shannon said or did, and just be resolute that by Thursday, she's be out of the house. But nooooooo, Hardy had to keep coming around and getting his nose smacked by a wet newspaper by Shannon. Hahaha!
I can't believe how stupid Hardy has been with his dealings with Shannon. He kept falling for the "yellow, coward" accusation lines over and over. She kept changing the subject from her egregious actions by always labelling Hardy as being "yellow and cowardly". And he kept digging himself deeper and deeper. Of course, the house may just keep Shannon around and keep messing with her (plus, Nicole really does need Shannon around as her personal trainer).
I'm wondering if Hardy isn't homosexual, he was getting all "ver klempt" in the hammock with Nicole. Almost reminded me of Bunky.
I was also giggling when Bunky was saying grace before the meal that Nicole fixed for the house. Poor Mike got bagged on that one. And what was with Hardy doing crunches while everyone else was at the table eating? Talk about bad strategy.
If I were Hardy, I would have ignored everything Shannon said or did, and just be resolute that by Thursday, she's be out of the house. But nooooooo, Hardy had to keep coming around and getting his nose smacked by a wet newspaper by Shannon. Hahaha!
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I agree that Hardy would probably be better off ignoring Shannons yellow coward comments...
...but I think it was completely rude for chilltown to snicker while Bunky was trying to say the prayer, even if he was half crying. I dont care if you are religous or not, there are certain times when you show respect and I think that was one of them. I would like to know what was up with Hardy not being at the table though.
I really think Shannon is the obvious choice to go, but if she does, I must say I'm really going to miss those thong bikini's she wears... did you see the one at the very end?

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...but I think it was completely rude for chilltown to snicker while Bunky was trying to say the prayer, even if he was half crying. I dont care if you are religous or not, there are certain times when you show respect and I think that was one of them. I would like to know what was up with Hardy not being at the table though.
I really think Shannon is the obvious choice to go, but if she does, I must say I'm really going to miss those thong bikini's she wears... did you see the one at the very end?

Brian
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The smart thing for the house to do is get rid of Will. Shannon wants to go, and Will wants to stay. Why give her what she wants? Once Will is gone, she has no support pillar and Mike will turn on her because she is alienating everyone in the house by her attitude and behavior.
I think Hardy was dead on in his description of her "She's like a 4 year old who takes her ball and leaves because the game isn't going her way" and Shannon keeps saying he's jealous of her and Will. Please. The world doesn't revolve around you. Nice epiphany you had last week. I was laughing too at her cleaning the toilet, but if it was me and I found out, I think I would have gone ballistic on her. Talk about a coward, she's the one who couldn't tell Hardy the truth once the cat was out of the bag. I'd knock her ass out
I think Hardy was dead on in his description of her "She's like a 4 year old who takes her ball and leaves because the game isn't going her way" and Shannon keeps saying he's jealous of her and Will. Please. The world doesn't revolve around you. Nice epiphany you had last week. I was laughing too at her cleaning the toilet, but if it was me and I found out, I think I would have gone ballistic on her. Talk about a coward, she's the one who couldn't tell Hardy the truth once the cat was out of the bag. I'd knock her ass out
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I missed Tuesday's show. My Tivo recorded Glickman instead. Would someone please give a brief recap? I only got Bunky praying while Chill town laughed and Nicole insulting Hardy.
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The way I see it, Shannon is totally daring the rest of the house to give her the boot. But then you have that last vestige of reverse psychology going on (meaning, are Will and Shannon that "in love" that booting Will would really make Shannon pissed off and fun to get inside her head and mess with it some more).
So, do the Toppers give Will the boot? Will has basically gone under the radar this week, while the lightning rod, Shannon is doing her job admirably.
Shannon has launched a passive-aggressive attack on Hardy, and he's fallen for it. If Hardy would stop asking Shannon to explain what she means by "yellow and coward" and just say "thanks for sharing your opinion. Next!" he would not be feeding into Shannon's attacks. Is Hardy that self-conscious about being called "yellow/cowardly" in this group to really have to have these verbal showdowns with Shannon? I don't think so. Hardy doesn't have to explain why he didn't just pick one Chill-towner and one of the rest. Case closed. But you see, Hardy is stupid enough to let his goat be gotten with these lame attempts at calling him "yellow/cowardly". It exposes his weak point.
I would just let Shannon keep making an idiot of herself. What's the adage "Never argue with a pig because all they'll do is drag you into the mud." (I screw that adage up, but the point remains). Shannon couldn't even come clean with what she did with Hardy's toothbrush in front of the houseguests. Everyone sees that, and knows that she's become a more hated person in the group than Will, thus making her a prime person to keep around to the end (whether the Toppers suscribe to that theory remains to be seen).
I think I'd have a hard time keeping a straight face when Bunky was saying grace (no disrespect to praying) because it just seemed that Bunkie would not stop saying grace, he just went on and on while interjecting that lilt in his voice like he was getting all choked up for the opportunity to sample Nicole's cooking, etc.
The only reason I bring up the possibility of Hardy being homosexual is to tie into the bomb (that Hardy is a homosexual or just a superbly narcisstic guy who can't stop doing crunches to have dinner with the whole group) that Will might drop on Thursday when either/both he and Shannon exit the house. I really didn't expect Hardy's eyes to get all teary-eyed. I mean, is it really that tough to live with people you don't like? I've done it, and I sure as hell didn't shed a tear over it. It looked out of character for Hardy, given that big strong presence he's been trying to project.
I did like Mike's line of "I'll show him why I'm a bar owner and he (Hardy) is still watching the door."
Sure, it's just Mike and Will shooting the bull, but it's just funny dialogue.
So, do the Toppers give Will the boot? Will has basically gone under the radar this week, while the lightning rod, Shannon is doing her job admirably.
Shannon has launched a passive-aggressive attack on Hardy, and he's fallen for it. If Hardy would stop asking Shannon to explain what she means by "yellow and coward" and just say "thanks for sharing your opinion. Next!" he would not be feeding into Shannon's attacks. Is Hardy that self-conscious about being called "yellow/cowardly" in this group to really have to have these verbal showdowns with Shannon? I don't think so. Hardy doesn't have to explain why he didn't just pick one Chill-towner and one of the rest. Case closed. But you see, Hardy is stupid enough to let his goat be gotten with these lame attempts at calling him "yellow/cowardly". It exposes his weak point.
I would just let Shannon keep making an idiot of herself. What's the adage "Never argue with a pig because all they'll do is drag you into the mud." (I screw that adage up, but the point remains). Shannon couldn't even come clean with what she did with Hardy's toothbrush in front of the houseguests. Everyone sees that, and knows that she's become a more hated person in the group than Will, thus making her a prime person to keep around to the end (whether the Toppers suscribe to that theory remains to be seen).
I think I'd have a hard time keeping a straight face when Bunky was saying grace (no disrespect to praying) because it just seemed that Bunkie would not stop saying grace, he just went on and on while interjecting that lilt in his voice like he was getting all choked up for the opportunity to sample Nicole's cooking, etc.
The only reason I bring up the possibility of Hardy being homosexual is to tie into the bomb (that Hardy is a homosexual or just a superbly narcisstic guy who can't stop doing crunches to have dinner with the whole group) that Will might drop on Thursday when either/both he and Shannon exit the house. I really didn't expect Hardy's eyes to get all teary-eyed. I mean, is it really that tough to live with people you don't like? I've done it, and I sure as hell didn't shed a tear over it. It looked out of character for Hardy, given that big strong presence he's been trying to project.
I did like Mike's line of "I'll show him why I'm a bar owner and he (Hardy) is still watching the door."
Sure, it's just Mike and Will shooting the bull, but it's just funny dialogue.
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Re : Bunky's prayer
I'm not a religious person and I wouldn't have taken part in the prayer, but even I found them laughing to be wrong. It started almost immediately and it was those 3 Dillztown pricks doing the laughing. I'm glad Monica said something to them, those 3 need a serious ass kicking but even that probably wouldn't bring them down to earth.
I'm not a religious person and I wouldn't have taken part in the prayer, but even I found them laughing to be wrong. It started almost immediately and it was those 3 Dillztown pricks doing the laughing. I'm glad Monica said something to them, those 3 need a serious ass kicking but even that probably wouldn't bring them down to earth.
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No, but they won the toaster.
Also, yesterday I went to the CBS website and was looking around and there was a poll :
Who would you kick out of the house? Shannon or Will?
I voted Will and the results were
110, XXX people voted for
50.10 Shannon
49.90 Will
WOW
Also, yesterday I went to the CBS website and was looking around and there was a poll :
Who would you kick out of the house? Shannon or Will?
I voted Will and the results were
110, XXX people voted for
50.10 Shannon
49.90 Will
WOW
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Indeed, the Chilltown members act as if they haven't had a single humbling moment in their lives.
I really do hope Shannon is kept around. I totally agree that she'll be less verbally irritating without Will's presence.
I really do hope Shannon is kept around. I totally agree that she'll be less verbally irritating without Will's presence.
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Actually it was Krista who was laughing first, then the others couldn't help themselves. It was funny. Only because of who was doing it and the way it was delivered. But, Krista may have laughed deliberately, because of those morons Harday and Bunky talking behind her back.
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Once the CT3 figure out someone's psychological weakness, they go for the jugular... Autumn felt self-conscious about her body, so they taunted her that she was fat and ugly... With Hardy it's his masculinity...
Is he secretly gay? No, but clearly he's had some episode in his past which makes him oversensitive to the "accusation." He definitely protests too much, and so they use it on him...
Is he secretly gay? No, but clearly he's had some episode in his past which makes him oversensitive to the "accusation." He definitely protests too much, and so they use it on him...
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I voted for Will to go. Let Shannon stay and raise some hell.
And if she wins HOH, watch out Hardy!
Did someone in the house insinuate that Hardy may be gay? I wish I had seen his anger at Bunky while Hardy was exercising. I witnessed Hardy getting po'd at Bunky for feeling pity on the women for losing the food challenge. IMO, Bunky should have stood up to Hardy.
And if she wins HOH, watch out Hardy!Did someone in the house insinuate that Hardy may be gay? I wish I had seen his anger at Bunky while Hardy was exercising. I witnessed Hardy getting po'd at Bunky for feeling pity on the women for losing the food challenge. IMO, Bunky should have stood up to Hardy.
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Yes, it's a classic form of passive-aggressive bullying tactic that Shannon is employing against Hardy.
The Shannon "Why is the big muscle-bound man picking on poor little me" speechwas frikkin' hilarious. I mean, look at Shannon, another hardbod, getting the best of Hardy in the head games department.
And then another classic was when Shannon clarified how stupid Kent was when he was asking for clarification of what went on with Hardy's toothbrush. I about lost it when Shannon just went off on Kent.
I thought Hardy was about to take that weight in his left hand when he was doing those tricep exercises and clock Bunkie for criticizing Hardy for his form (rightly so, his form was horrible)
They sure did pack a lot in an hour episode last night!
The Shannon "Why is the big muscle-bound man picking on poor little me" speechwas frikkin' hilarious. I mean, look at Shannon, another hardbod, getting the best of Hardy in the head games department.
And then another classic was when Shannon clarified how stupid Kent was when he was asking for clarification of what went on with Hardy's toothbrush. I about lost it when Shannon just went off on Kent.
I thought Hardy was about to take that weight in his left hand when he was doing those tricep exercises and clock Bunkie for criticizing Hardy for his form (rightly so, his form was horrible)

They sure did pack a lot in an hour episode last night!
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Yeah, the look on Hardy's face when Bunky kept telling him his form was wrong was priceless
"I swear I'll slap the taste out of your mouth"
"I swear I'll slap the taste out of your mouth"
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I'd have chuckled too at that prayer. Being emotional is one thing, but crying while saying grace at dinner? It was funny just watching Mike's face, you can see he's looking at everyone else to see if they are noticing that Bunky is blubbering like a fool for no apparent reason.
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Isn't EDITING GREAT?!
First the sequence of events.
Patman, the reason Hardy was outside during dinner was because the whole Shannon situation just exploded and he basically refused to eat with her. And that's why she basically was taking EXTRA HELPINGS so there wouldn't be much left when he did decide to eat.
By the way, they didn't have time to show ALL THE THINGS Shannon has done. She started messing with the food with freezing things that shouldn't be frozen, eating one cookie and throwing ALL THE REST AWAY! Things like that just to "mess with them".
Also the editing around the "prayer". Did you notice they had ONE SHOT of Krista giggling as well. Then ALL the rest focused on Mike, WIll, and Shannon. And who gets the blame, just ChillTown ofcourse. Krista skates clear, even though she was giggling as much as the rest.
Finally the Toothbrush scene. They edited to show Nicole in the Diary Room saying "you can't do anything in her without someone seeing or finding out", then cut to her telling Hardy what Shannon did.
The TRUTH is they found out through a banner! The banner ratted out Shannon saying she cleaned the toilet with it, and that's how they found out. But CBS Won't show banners this year and made it look like they found out through the gossip tree.
Otherwise without the banner they still would think it was broken with ofcourse suspicion but never known about the toilet.
Now also:
I'm glad to see some people appreciate the show. WIthout Shannon Will and such it wouldn't be the same. It would be BORING. Other boards REALLY DON'T see this.
I'm not saying I'd want Shannon to win or anything crazy like that, I just know they are pressing buttons to make the show good. And Hardy FALLING FOR it. And now the other faction of the "Reals or TOP or Untouchables" are just as bad. And drive me nuts for just complaining about others talking behind their backs when they do the exact same things!
Kent is the funniest when comes to this. The first day or two there trying to form alliances, bad mouthing others, now he is all of a sudden sef-declared "good person, oh I'd never go down to their level" etc.
This show has actually become interesting.
Also one other sick thing is people talking about Protesting outside Mike's bar now!? WHY? He actually isn't that bad.
He is a real person, and actually seems like a nice guy. Yeah he is caught up in a GAME (and it's just that) with strategy and JOKES. Yes some are offensive JOKES but they are still JOKES.
To say he is racist or homophobe? Come on get real.
He just likes to hang out, and have fun.
First the sequence of events.
Patman, the reason Hardy was outside during dinner was because the whole Shannon situation just exploded and he basically refused to eat with her. And that's why she basically was taking EXTRA HELPINGS so there wouldn't be much left when he did decide to eat.
By the way, they didn't have time to show ALL THE THINGS Shannon has done. She started messing with the food with freezing things that shouldn't be frozen, eating one cookie and throwing ALL THE REST AWAY! Things like that just to "mess with them".
Also the editing around the "prayer". Did you notice they had ONE SHOT of Krista giggling as well. Then ALL the rest focused on Mike, WIll, and Shannon. And who gets the blame, just ChillTown ofcourse. Krista skates clear, even though she was giggling as much as the rest.
Finally the Toothbrush scene. They edited to show Nicole in the Diary Room saying "you can't do anything in her without someone seeing or finding out", then cut to her telling Hardy what Shannon did.
The TRUTH is they found out through a banner! The banner ratted out Shannon saying she cleaned the toilet with it, and that's how they found out. But CBS Won't show banners this year and made it look like they found out through the gossip tree.
Otherwise without the banner they still would think it was broken with ofcourse suspicion but never known about the toilet.
Now also:
I'm glad to see some people appreciate the show. WIthout Shannon Will and such it wouldn't be the same. It would be BORING. Other boards REALLY DON'T see this.
I'm not saying I'd want Shannon to win or anything crazy like that, I just know they are pressing buttons to make the show good. And Hardy FALLING FOR it. And now the other faction of the "Reals or TOP or Untouchables" are just as bad. And drive me nuts for just complaining about others talking behind their backs when they do the exact same things!
Kent is the funniest when comes to this. The first day or two there trying to form alliances, bad mouthing others, now he is all of a sudden sef-declared "good person, oh I'd never go down to their level" etc.
This show has actually become interesting.
Also one other sick thing is people talking about Protesting outside Mike's bar now!? WHY? He actually isn't that bad.
He is a real person, and actually seems like a nice guy. Yeah he is caught up in a GAME (and it's just that) with strategy and JOKES. Yes some are offensive JOKES but they are still JOKES.
To say he is racist or homophobe? Come on get real.
He just likes to hang out, and have fun.
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Brian, thanks for the live feed updates. This is truly like rubber-necking at the TV screen when BB2 is on the tube. Shannon has always been an instigator (by being immature, but malicious, then when called upon, she insincerely apologizes for her actions).
Hardy is very weak, mentally. I mean, how can a bouncer cry over this sort of crap?
Sheesh!
Hardy is very weak, mentally. I mean, how can a bouncer cry over this sort of crap?
Sheesh!
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I havent kept up on this show really, aside form reading this thread, but I didn see an article at The Smoking Gun (very good site) in which thye found out the bar owner guy, Mike, does not own the bar like he claims, and used an alias to get on the show because he was convicted of spying on the Batman and Robin sets with a couple of other guys with fake security badges, and such, trying to get footage to sell to the tabloids.



