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Old 03-12-20 | 06:21 PM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

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As long as Splash Mountain continues to exist, you’re always going to have someone ask, “What Movie is that from and where can I see it?”
I have never heard anyone ask this question because of Splash Mountain.
Old 03-12-20 | 11:54 PM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

One of my friends asked someone there where they could get Song of the South and they were told to download it!

It was released legitimately on analog formats in Japan and the U.K.
Old 03-12-20 | 11:55 PM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

Originally Posted by fujishig
I have never heard anyone ask this question because of Splash Mountain.
I was thinking some version of that on Splash Mountain on Saturday.
Old 03-13-20 | 01:23 AM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
As long as Splash Mountain continues to exist, you’re always going to have someone ask, “What Movie is that from and where can I see it?”
I've had a couple conversations about Song Of The South, and they always start up when someone hears Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah. They try to place the song and think it's from Mary Poppins. A lot of people can sing the song, but they've never heard of Song Of The South.
Old 03-13-20 | 06:16 AM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
One of my friends asked someone there where they could get Song of the South and they were told to download it!

It was released legitimately on analog formats in Japan and the U.K.
From my understanding it was released in Laserdisc.
Old 03-13-20 | 06:21 AM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

Originally Posted by b2net
From my understanding it was released in Laserdisc.
Correct. There was a Japanese laserdisc.
Old 03-13-20 | 08:24 AM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

How many of us actually remember seeing SotS? I'm 51 and I saw this multiple times as a kid.
Old 03-13-20 | 08:35 AM
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I remember seeing it a few times as a kid in the early 70's. I saw it again years later on VHS while living overseas. I also remember music videos or short cartoons of it playing on TV, like the Disney Channel or Wonderful World of Disney.
Old 03-13-20 | 09:43 AM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

I saw it as a kid and actually watched it again year before last. My parents live in the town Harris was born in, and the museum had copies of the DVD so they bought a copy a while back. I have no idea if they were bootleg or "special dispensation" or what, but we watched it on a visit. The animation was fun and the stories were entertaining, but yeah, the whole way the story was framed was very cringe-y to say the least.
Old 03-13-20 | 10:35 AM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

Is SotS the only thing that Br'er Rabbit, Bear, and Fox are in? It's the one with the tar baby, right? If so I saw it a lot as a kid, I think I had a few books, maybe even those audio books with them in it.
Old 03-13-20 | 10:41 AM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

I think remember seeing it as a kid. A bootleg ad was recently prominently featured here on dvdtalk, so I just saw it again. I’m just an old white guy, but I don’t see why they can’t release it with the standard disclaimers they use on other older cartoons with racist caricatures.
Old 03-13-20 | 10:46 AM
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I think remember seeing it as a kid. A bootleg ad was recently prominently featured here on dvdtalk, so I just saw it again. I’m just an old white guy, but I don’t see why they can’t release it with the standard disclaimers they use on other older cartoons with racist caricatures.
Are there other cartoons on there with racist caricatures on that level, though? (I'll say this, they certainly don't make it easy to find crap on this service)

I assume they don't put it on there because they don't want to recognize it and they don't want rights groups making a big deal and forcing them to pull it down anyway.
Old 03-13-20 | 11:02 AM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

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Are there other cartoons on there with racist caricatures on that level, though? (I'll say this, they certainly don't make it easy to find crap on this service)

I assume they don't put it on there because they don't want to recognize it and they don't want rights groups making a big deal and forcing them to pull it down anyway.
Oh, I forgot what thread I was in. Yeah, I was more thinking a physical release, at least back in the day when it would have made them money.
Old 03-13-20 | 12:14 PM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

Originally Posted by Trevor
Oh, I forgot what thread I was in. Yeah, I was more thinking a physical release, at least back in the day when it would have made them money.
I'm kinda surprised Criterion never got it and put out a disc packed with documentaries.
Old 03-13-20 | 01:27 PM
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Well, it's not just the racist caricatures like the Crows in Dumbo (though those are pretty bad.) I think it's also the, pardon the choice of words, whitewashing of how slaves were treated on the plantations, both Uncle Remus and the others. Through most of the movie you might think Uncle Remus is a kindly campy counselor taking care of the kids in the daytime. They even call him Uncle.
Yes, the Tar Baby is one of the Br'er Rabbit stories, I think it's in the movie.
I'd be fine with putting it up with a disclaimer, but I'll admit my opinion on this matters much less than other people's who (justifiably) perceive the presentation differently.
Old 03-13-20 | 02:33 PM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

I just want Something Wicked This Way Comes dammit!
Old 03-13-20 | 09:17 PM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

Frozen 2 is going to start streaming Sunday, 3 months ahead of schedule
Old 03-13-20 | 10:18 PM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

Originally Posted by Deftones
Frozen 2 is going to start streaming Sunday, 3 months ahead of schedule
Heh, I just read that on the news. My daughter was just asking today when it would be on Disney+, she'll be thrilled.
Old 03-13-20 | 10:26 PM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

I saw Song of the South in theaters but possibly not since then. If not for “Zipadeedoodah,” it might have vanished from memory by now.

I watched Treasure of Matucumbe the other day. All I remember from seeing in the theaters as a kid was the opening song, but I’d noticed it in DMR and always wondered about it. Glad I didn’t spend money on it, as it was a pretty mediocre kids adventure. Perfect title for streaming and satisfying my curiosity instead of paying money.

Also watched the 1960 Swiss Family Robinson, which is still pretty good light entertainment.
Old 03-13-20 | 10:58 PM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

And with that, I vote we put an end to the Song of the South discussion. That or make a dedicated thread for it.
Old 03-14-20 | 12:22 AM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

With all the theatrical postponements, I wonder if they'll give up on New Mutants and send it straight to Disney+.
Old 03-14-20 | 11:43 AM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

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With all the theatrical postponements, I wonder if they'll give up on New Mutants and send it straight to Disney+.
This movie is cursed. I have heard others say that dumping it on Hulu would be a better fit since a) it's supposed to be darker than your typical Marvel film, b) it's not part of the MCU, and c) Fox's run of X-Men flicks is done. I've also heard that Disney may be loathe to debut it on streaming since it won't necessarily drive new subscriptions vs. what they can make by putting it in theaters whenever they get around to it, plus there are piracy concerns if the strategy is to release it theatrically elsewhere later.

I'd have to think that eventually some studio film is going to end up being moved to streaming if things continue like this for a prolonged period of time. Kind of like with the James Bond movie, it just takes one "big" player to finally make a move and others will follow suit.
Old 03-14-20 | 12:46 PM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

Originally Posted by Deftones
Frozen 2 is going to start streaming Sunday, 3 months ahead of schedule
If I recall correctly, the DVD release for the first Frozen made it's debut less in less than 4 months when it was in theaters. It's in this franchise's destiny to be available quicker than usual!
Old 03-14-20 | 07:29 PM
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Re: Disney+ streaming service - November 12, 2019 launch

Originally Posted by Deftones
Frozen 2 is going to start streaming Sunday, 3 months ahead of schedule
This is already up for streaming.
Old 03-14-20 | 08:02 PM
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I think their next expedited release will be Onward, it fell like a brick at the box office (-70% this weekend)


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