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The VINYL Thread!

Old 08-10-19, 09:41 AM
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Re: The VINYL Thread!

Im still holding out for a Midnite Vultures reissue, but in the meantime, I ordered some of the singles off the album. At least I get some B Sides out of it.

Also pre-ordered the soundtrack to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
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Old 08-10-19, 09:19 PM
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Re: The VINYL Thread!

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So here's one of those life's little victories, vinyl-wise.

Like most of you, presumably, I have a want-list on Discogs. Kind of a bad thing, as it will throw something at you that you probably shouldn't spend your hard-earned on. Too tempting. Last week I received a notice of a copy of the Ramones' Rocket to Russia for just $15. I jumped on it, and only after finalizing payment did I see the fine print from the seller: "Does not include original sleeve". D'oh! That's the most important part, as it includes the John Holmstrom artwork for every song!

Decided I don't want to be THAT guy who cancels an order. Still nice to have a 70s pressing of Rocket to Russia anyway, as all I have is a current reissue.

Record arrives today, and sure enough, it's in a replacement sleeve. But after I take the replacement sleeve and record out, there's the original still inside the jacket! So I have my Holmstrom artwork, and a great record too!!
I've gotten more than a few used LPs like that.

The retailers/collectors will put the LP in a generic sleeve, then keep the graphic sleeve in the jacket. They do it so the record won't damage (or further damage) the usually fragile graphic sleeve, which tend to split.

After the first time I got a record like that from eBay, I started doing with all of my albums that have printed sleeves.

The sleeves are one thing I really hate about buying used. If I'm getting an album I want to have the original graphic sleeve (if there is one). To not have one when there should be one is a deal breaker for me. Same with lyric sheets, and booklets. Before I'll buy anything used, I check to make sure there is a graphic sleeve, and if there isn't, I look at other auctions for the same LP to make sure it didn't originally come with one.
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Old 08-12-19, 10:53 AM
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Yeah, you get it. Sometimes those extra booklets or sleeves are hard to find, even if the record itself is fairly common. Like that booklet that came with The Who's Quadrophenia. A copy of the record with the booklet intact immediately drives up the value. Or the "extra" that came with Cheech and Chong's Big Bambu...

I've since found out that current reissues of Rocket to Russia include a sleeve with Holmstrom's drawings (the 2005 180g pressing I have did not) so it's not that hard to come by, but it was still a nice little bonus considering it was specifically mentioned in the listing that it wasn't included.
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Old 08-19-19, 06:24 PM
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Sooo, can anyone school me on tube amps? I want a nice amp that's just for music, I don't need some fancy 7.1 receiver with a thousand different movie sound settings and a billion HDMI inputs. I want something simple and I like the look and sound of tubes, anything that won't break the bank? This one looks interesting and really pretty, and the same company makes some gorgeous ones that are a little more than I want to pay right now. I just want to dip my toe in, would this be a good "starter" one that has a nice sound? All I'd be hooking up to it would be a turntable and maybe a CD player, I don't really care about its Bluetooth function.

https://www.amazon.com/Dared-MP-5BTHIFI-Audiophiles-Preamplifier-DACBluetooth/dp/B079RBW28K/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3IN31UVRLC5PE&keywords=dared+tube+amp&qid=1566256648&s=gateway&sprefix=dared+tube%2Caps%2C148&sr=8-4 https://www.amazon.com/Dared-MP-5BTHIFI-Audiophiles-Preamplifier-DACBluetooth/dp/B079RBW28K/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3IN31UVRLC5PE&keywords=dared+tube+amp&qid=1566256648&s=gateway&sprefix=dared+tube%2Caps%2C148&sr=8-4
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Old 08-20-19, 10:11 AM
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What do you have now?

I've heard that the first three upgrades you should do to improve your sound is speakers, speakers, and then speakers. Those new tube amps have caught my eye too though, but I'm wondering if they're more gimmick than substance. As in, you can find better vintage gear on Craigslist at a fraction of the price. When I made that system for a friend of mine (turntable, receiver, speakers), I got all the gear on CL for less than $150 total, and it rivaled my own setup which I paid a lot more for. The receiver was an 80s era Harman Kardon, and I think I paid $25 for it. It sounded DAMN good.

Q:How many guitarists does it take to change a light bulb?
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10. 1 to change it, 9 to complain how the old tubes were better
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Old 08-20-19, 10:31 AM
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Honestly, you might be right about it being more gimmick than substance, but dammit I like the gimmick. I currently use a 20 year old Yamaha receiver (that still sounds good) and some JBL floor speakers. Nothing amazing, but decent. I'll fully admit, this is probably more of me wanting a new, pretty toy to play around with than anything. I was just curious if these amps actually have decent sound or just a waste of money.
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Old 08-20-19, 10:40 AM
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That seems like a nicer one than my Monoprice "hybrid" amp. It has tubes on it, but it also has a solid state part built in... seems like the Dared one is the same. So I'm not sure that you'd be getting "true" tube-like sound out of it either.

I think Paff is right... you might be better off checking Craigslist (or Kijiji ) and seeing if anyone's getting rid of some vintage gear.
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Old 08-20-19, 10:48 AM
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A quick trip to my local CL just found a Harman Kardon 60s era tube amp for $500, and a Pioneer solid-state from the 70s for $279.

I bet either of those would kick the shit out of these new "retro-looking" amps, and they'd actually BE retro instead of just looking it.

ETA: Man, I wish you hadn't brought this up, 'cause there's some straight-up bad ass shit for sale on CL. I'm getting the upgrade bug. The "retro" tube amps look cool, but I'm willing to bet they're mostly digital with just an analog tube amp power stage. It impresses me with what can be done on just a handful of chips nowadays (it's my career, actually), but you can't beat what used to be done by a whole host of capacitors, transistors, et al. If you got a REAL vintage amp, you'd have a great looking piece of gear, and most likely analog throughout the entire signal path. You'd probably get far better performance at a tiny fraction of the price.

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Old 08-20-19, 02:34 PM
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Re: The VINYL Thread!

Thanks for the advice guys, I'll take a look around Kijiji (Canada's Craigslist) and see what I can find in the way of vintage tube amps.

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The "retro" tube amps look cool, but I'm willing to bet they're mostly digital with just an analog tube amp power stage.
You're probably right. I have this Samsung bluetooth speaker that seems to be similar, it uses tubes I believe at the preamp stage. It looks gorgeous and sounds great, but I kind of doubt the tubes in this make much difference. Couldn't resist it for 50 bucks though (originally retailed for $600-700 but I picked it up cheap at an electronics store that was closing).

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Old 08-20-19, 03:20 PM
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Personally, I think some of the vintage amps look gorgeous. I'm not a tube devotee though. Here's a couple I'd be able to get locally for less than $500:

Marantz 2225:


Pioneer SX-780:
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Old 08-20-19, 04:44 PM
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OK, that Marantz does look really nice. This hobby is fast becoming a damn rabbit hole for me!
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Old 08-20-19, 05:11 PM
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Yeah, the older Marantz stuff is pretty nice. I've got a Marantz receiver, but it was from their transition period, and not highly regarded. I've had it since I was a teenager, though, and got a lot of use out of it. I was happy with it, at the time.

I've been lusting after a Fisher tube receiver, but they've gone mental in price. In addition to Kijiji, check out Canuck Audio Mart.

One of the Fisher receivers I wanted (500C) is now listed at $1500 on there. Insane. I was hesitating when I saw it's brethren listed for around $700. They've become popular, so the prices have risen, as expected. Although, I'll be very surprised if the one listed sells for anything near what is being asked.
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Old 08-20-19, 05:47 PM
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I like that they're not just another digital display ("PHONO" "VIDEO 1" "FM", etc) and instead there's a little personality.
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