Are you a fan of progressive rock?
02-10-13 | 01:33 AM
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Re: Are you a fan of progressive rock?
This thread is severely lacking in mentions of Gentle Giant
Also, King Crimson and Procupine Tree/Steven Wilson are practically my favorite groups ever.
Also, King Crimson and Procupine Tree/Steven Wilson are practically my favorite groups ever.
02-10-13 | 02:14 AM
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The Larks' Tongues In Aspic lineup of King Crimson is one of the most musically impressive groups ever. As is the Discipline lineup.
02-10-13 | 04:02 AM
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Re: Are you a fan of progressive rock?
FYI, VdGG are pretty popular (in prog circles), as are PFM, Banco and Le Orme, so that has nothing to do with it. It is that most of the bands mentioned (outside of KC and Gabriel era Genesis) are pretty bland and boring.
02-10-13 | 04:04 AM
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Re: Are you a fan of progressive rock?
I'll overlook the oppressive air of condescension and check some of these bands out.
And while some of the bands we listed are obvious, I don't see what's pedestrian about them. There's a reason people think of bands like Yes, ELP, and early Genesis when they talk about progressive rock.
And while some of the bands we listed are obvious, I don't see what's pedestrian about them. There's a reason people think of bands like Yes, ELP, and early Genesis when they talk about progressive rock.
02-10-13 | 08:59 AM
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02-10-13 | 12:00 PM
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Re: Are you a fan of progressive rock?
For modern progressive rock with an epic feel, it doesn't get any better than Anathema. They pretty much invented the death/doom genre in the mid '80s and then around 2001 they dropped the harsh vocals and started morphing themselves into the best progressive rock band working today. I can't figure out why they aren't more popular in America. They're like Porcupine Tree with a better vocalist and better songs (and I love Porcupine Tree).
02-10-13 | 12:19 PM
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Yay! I probably should have also mentioned that they're good friends with Steven Wilson and he's done some producing and mixing of their albums. Plus, if you're familiar with Anneke van Giersbergen (of The Gathering, Devin Townsend Project, and her own solo stuff) has sung on a few of their albums and even did a solo project with the lead singer of Anathema (Danny Cavanagh) which was pretty good.
02-10-13 | 12:57 PM
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Right, that's it, hipsterism!!!! Good job
FYI, VdGG are pretty popular (in prog circles), as are PFM, Banco and Le Orme, so that has nothing to do with it. It is that most of the bands mentioned (outside of KC and Gabriel era Genesis) are pretty bland and boring.
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FYI, VdGG are pretty popular (in prog circles), as are PFM, Banco and Le Orme, so that has nothing to do with it. It is that most of the bands mentioned (outside of KC and Gabriel era Genesis) are pretty bland and boring.
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Check out Gentle Giant, too. And the reason people think of those bands is because they get/got airplay, and it is a very limited type of symphonic prog. Again, they are all ok, especially Gabriel era Genesis (Selling England by the Pound is a great album) and some Yes, but there is a lot more challenging, complex, beautiful, and creative (i.e. progressive) stuff out there.
Jesus, people. Can you name more obvious, pedestrian, and cliched prog bands?
Not to say they are bad, because many aren't (fuck that neo-prog bullshit though), but mix in some Van der Graaf Generator, Museo Rosenbach, PFM, Banco, Area, Magma, Tasavallan Presidentti, Bi Kyo Ran, Yonin Bayashi, Le Orme, Ange, Comus, New Trolls, Osanna, Dun, Bubu, Triana, Semiramis, 5uus, Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, Henry Cow, Yezda Urfa, Alphataurus, Corte dei Miracoli, Wigwam, and a whole lot of others....
Not to say they are bad, because many aren't (fuck that neo-prog bullshit though), but mix in some Van der Graaf Generator, Museo Rosenbach, PFM, Banco, Area, Magma, Tasavallan Presidentti, Bi Kyo Ran, Yonin Bayashi, Le Orme, Ange, Comus, New Trolls, Osanna, Dun, Bubu, Triana, Semiramis, 5uus, Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, Henry Cow, Yezda Urfa, Alphataurus, Corte dei Miracoli, Wigwam, and a whole lot of others....
And what about Juan and Jorge?
02-10-13 | 01:09 PM
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Jesus, people. Can you name more obvious, pedestrian, and cliched prog bands?
Not to say they are bad, because many aren't (fuck that neo-prog bullshit though), but mix in some Van der Graaf Generator, Museo Rosenbach, PFM, Banco, Area, Magma, Tasavallan Presidentti, Bi Kyo Ran, Yonin Bayashi, Le Orme, Ange, Comus, New Trolls, Osanna, Dun, Bubu, Triana, Semiramis, 5uus, Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, Henry Cow, Yezda Urfa, Alphataurus, Corte dei Miracoli, Wigwam, and a whole lot of others....
Not to say they are bad, because many aren't (fuck that neo-prog bullshit though), but mix in some Van der Graaf Generator, Museo Rosenbach, PFM, Banco, Area, Magma, Tasavallan Presidentti, Bi Kyo Ran, Yonin Bayashi, Le Orme, Ange, Comus, New Trolls, Osanna, Dun, Bubu, Triana, Semiramis, 5uus, Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, Henry Cow, Yezda Urfa, Alphataurus, Corte dei Miracoli, Wigwam, and a whole lot of others....
02-10-13 | 01:20 PM
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Re: Are you a fan of progressive rock?
I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.
Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist.
Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist.
02-10-13 | 01:35 PM
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Re: Are you a fan of progressive rock?
Here's some more "hipster" referrals for all of you trite, cliched prog-heads:
De De Lind, Raccomandata con Ricevuta di Ritorno, Deus ex Machina, Il Balleto di Bronzo, Anglagaard, Quella Vecchia Locanda, Jumbo, Thinking Plague, U Totem, Web/Samurai, Greenslade, Apoteosi, Metamorfosi, Zao, Gryphon, Sleeping People, The Six Parts Seven, Acqua Fragile, Spring, Marsupilami, Bigletto Per'Linferno, Panna Fredda, Maxophone, Tartufi...
There, yes, I know about shit you don't...even Neo-prog - check out Twelfth Night's first album, came out a year before Marillion's hackneyed bullshit. I am prog-hipster, hear me roar.
De De Lind, Raccomandata con Ricevuta di Ritorno, Deus ex Machina, Il Balleto di Bronzo, Anglagaard, Quella Vecchia Locanda, Jumbo, Thinking Plague, U Totem, Web/Samurai, Greenslade, Apoteosi, Metamorfosi, Zao, Gryphon, Sleeping People, The Six Parts Seven, Acqua Fragile, Spring, Marsupilami, Bigletto Per'Linferno, Panna Fredda, Maxophone, Tartufi...
There, yes, I know about shit you don't...even Neo-prog - check out Twelfth Night's first album, came out a year before Marillion's hackneyed bullshit. I am prog-hipster, hear me roar.
02-10-13 | 02:57 PM
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Re: Are you a fan of progressive rock?
I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.
Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist.
Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist.
In all seriousness I was listening to Duke yesterday.
02-10-13 | 04:25 PM
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What?!?!?! No love for Mike Oldfield?!?!?!?
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02-10-13 | 05:04 PM
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Re: Are you a fan of progressive rock?
Favorite prog / sort of prog stuff:
Genesis: Foxtrot
Hawkwind: Space Ritual
Yes: Close to the Edge
Can: Soon over Babaluma
Gentle Giant: Octopus
Porcupine Tree: Fear of a Blank Planet
Neu!: Neu! (debut)
Amon Duul 2: Wolf City
801:801 Live
Ozric Tentacles: Strangitude
Genesis: Foxtrot
Hawkwind: Space Ritual
Yes: Close to the Edge
Can: Soon over Babaluma
Gentle Giant: Octopus
Porcupine Tree: Fear of a Blank Planet
Neu!: Neu! (debut)
Amon Duul 2: Wolf City
801:801 Live
Ozric Tentacles: Strangitude
02-10-13 | 07:09 PM
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I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.
Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist.
Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist.
02-10-13 | 07:10 PM
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02-10-13 | 07:25 PM
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Egads. And here I am liking Marillion for whatever reason. I'm grateful we have someone of your caliber, a discerning arbiter of all that is good and bad, here to set us all straight.
02-10-13 | 07:30 PM
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I remember the first time I heard a Marillion song years ago and thought it was new Genesis.
How about Be Bop Deluxe?
How about Be Bop Deluxe?
02-11-13 | 08:40 AM
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