Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
#26
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Taylor Swift Speak Now Debuts At #1 (sold 1,047,000 1st week)
I had to bump this to say what a completely idiotic song Mean is. I actually like some of her stuff, but this song apparently strikes back at critics, who, rightfully so, say she can't sing live. It's a response that you'd hear from a 8 year old on the playground.
#28
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Taylor Swift Speak Now Debuts At #1 (sold 1,047,000 1st week)
If you can successfuly navigate the choppy waters of this girl's mind, I'm sure she'll let you take a trip to Dirty Pete's Lake...
#29
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Taylor Swift Speak Now Debuts At #1 (sold 1,047,000 1st week)
This is the best song on the album
Surprised it has not been released as a single but remember if you hear this song later in the year and it is ringing in your ear Jeffthealpaca predicted it would be a hit on April 11, 2011
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Surprised it has not been released as a single but remember if you hear this song later in the year and it is ringing in your ear Jeffthealpaca predicted it would be a hit on April 11, 2011

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#30
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Taylor Swift - Red (10/22/12)

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Originally Posted by Taylor Swift
I wrote a song called ‘Red.’ And, thinking about what that means to me and all the different emotions that are written about on this album, they’re all pretty much the kind of tumultuous, crazy, insane, intense, semi-toxic relationships that I’ve experienced in the last two years. And, all those emotions spanning from intense love, intense frustration, jealousy, confusion, all of that, in my mind, all those emotions are red. There’s nothing in between. There’s nothing beige about any those feelings so I called the record ‘Red.’
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#31
DVD Talk Legend
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
Her music is banal, her lyrics vapid drivel. Such is the state of pop music...or is it new country?
Either way, people really enjoy this stuff, so more power to them.
Either way, people really enjoy this stuff, so more power to them.

#32
DVD Talk Legend
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
I'm generally not a country fan but I'm looking forward to this release. Taylor Swift is maturing, and she's working with better and better people.
#33
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread

I'm not a big Taylor Swift fan, but my daughter and her friends love her. Taylor seems like a good kid. She writes her own songs and plays her own instrument, which used to be standard operating procedure, but is pretty rare these days. She seems genuine in interviews and tries to put out a positive message for her young fans. In the world of pop music, you could do a lot worse.
If anything bothers me, it's in her concert DVD where she acts shocked that people came out to her show and cheered for her. After three multi-platinum albums, an Album of the Year Grammy and a sold-out world tour, the "Y'all came to see little ol' me?" bit seems pretty phoney and disingenuous.
But otherwise, I don't have a problem with her.
#34
DVD Talk Godfather
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
I'm not a big Taylor Swift fan, but my daughter and her friends love her. Taylor seems like a good kid. She writes her own songs and plays her own instrument, which used to be standard operating procedure, but is pretty rare these days. She seems genuine in interviews and tries to put out a positive message for her young fans. In the world of pop music, you could do a lot worse.
Country is one of my least favorite genres, but with two kids I do hear a lot of Swift. I kinda dig Safe & Sound (Hunger Games tune). It had a less "poppy" vibe to it. It'd be nice to get more of that on the new album.
Such a pleasant atmosphere to know you have to defend your musical tastes in every single thread around here.
#35
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
However, if it is all poppy, I will still get it no question. There is a certain sing alongness to her work that is just very enjoyable. I have already played that new song 17 times and counting. I don't know how it happens, it just... does.
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#36
Moderator
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
Taylor seems like a good kid. She writes her own songs and plays her own instrument, which used to be standard operating procedure, but is pretty rare these days. She seems genuine in interviews and tries to put out a positive message for her young fans. In the world of pop music, you could do a lot worse.
She's really young. Not everyone can be Bob Dylan at 22 or whatever. My sincere hope is that in 20 years she'll have honed her craft and be another Lucinda Williams or Joni Mitchell.
#37
DVD Talk Legend
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
Agreed. I really dug that song and would hear more of that type on this cd.
However, if it is all poppy, I will still get it no question. There is a certain sing alongness to her work that is just very enjoyable. I have already played that new song 17 times and counting. I don't know how it happens, it just... does.
However, if it is all poppy, I will still get it no question. There is a certain sing alongness to her work that is just very enjoyable. I have already played that new song 17 times and counting. I don't know how it happens, it just... does.
#38
DVD Talk Special Edition
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
Reading those lyrics, it's pretty hard to believe that Taylor Swift is 'maturing'. She writes like a 13 year old and her music is bland, boring and predictable.
#39
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
Well, I'm come down in the middle based on just the first song. I agree with all the great stuff that's been posted about Taylor and having 2 girls of my own, it's fun to be able to see them both look up to someone in the celebrity world who's a good person, works hard, seems totally grounded and writes her songs. And where both mom and dad actually love most of the songs too and have fun at her concerts.
That said, I can't help but agree that this song doesn't show any growth at all. I have no idea what her actual life is like or how much growth see actually has gone through since the last album, but I expected something just a tad bit more mature just because I assumed Taylor, herself, is a tad bit mature.
It's catchy, she's got that formula down pat, but it sounds like someone in high school would write and she should be past that by now imho.
That said, I can't help but agree that this song doesn't show any growth at all. I have no idea what her actual life is like or how much growth see actually has gone through since the last album, but I expected something just a tad bit more mature just because I assumed Taylor, herself, is a tad bit mature.
It's catchy, she's got that formula down pat, but it sounds like someone in high school would write and she should be past that by now imho.
#40
DVD Talk Legend
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
Looking forward to this. Loved the last album.
#41
DVD Talk Legend
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
I admit You Belong To Me is a great song.
Was Enchanted ever released as a single?
That was the best song on Speak Now.
Was Enchanted ever released as a single?
That was the best song on Speak Now.
#42
DVD Talk Legend
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
For those saying this song is a step back stylistically, it should be noted that it was produced and co-written by Max Martin, the pop producer behind such songs as "Baby One More Time", "Since U Been Gone", "Raise Your Glass", and all the hits off Katy Perry's Teenage Dream album. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Mar...on_discography
#43
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
Came here to say exactly that, leaving satisfied other people feel the same way.
#45
DVD Talk Legend
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
I'm genuinely surprised that it took you two days to come into a thread about an artist you have no interest in to let us all know that your taste is superior to ours.
#46
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
Well, to be fair, he actually let us know that his daughter's taste is superior to our daughter's tastes.
#48
DVD Talk Hero
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
I read that there is a "country" version that will also be made for country radio (cause i'm sure country radio wouldnt play this song as is
#49
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re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
Glad to see everyone else at DVDTalk has two daughters like me. Or is it only the people who are reading and not crapping in the Taylor Swift thread? 
I pretty much echo what Decker and Corvin said: She seems like a talented, down-to-earth person who's more likable than many celebs.
And I'm not a big country fan, so Swift/Underwood pop-country is just fine with me. My older kid told me to stop playing Love Story because she was tired of it.

I pretty much echo what Decker and Corvin said: She seems like a talented, down-to-earth person who's more likable than many celebs.
And I'm not a big country fan, so Swift/Underwood pop-country is just fine with me. My older kid told me to stop playing Love Story because she was tired of it.

#50
DVD Talk Godfather
re: Taylor Swift -- Discussion Thread
"Love Story" is one of the better pop songs of the last few years.
I didn't care for the second album, but will listen to the new one.
I didn't care for the second album, but will listen to the new one.
