true it may not be the final copy, but it is a leaked copy of the album in some form or fashion.

It looks like Nov. 14 may be the release date. I work for a music store and G'n'R is listed as a new release for the 14th, although there is no title and we can not order it in yet from the store level.

That is because this is not GNR. Pisses me off that he is using that name for his solo act.

Any other news to support this is a potential release date? Being that there's finally a new song linked to the Harley Davidson ad, I think this may actually see the light of day.

Calm down Izzy. You're doing fine with VR.

The rumored November 21st release date apparently only originated from one "retail source" who tipped Rolling Stone off. Doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot to me.

At this point, there's only seven Tuesdays left in 2006--I'm extremely skeptical that we'll see the album this year.

And I think it's hilarious.

You know that Izzy's actually done a few shows with The Axl Rose Band this year, yeah?

(I refuse to call them "Guns N' Roses," too.)

Did Izzy join VR recently? He wasn't in them last time I checked.

That's Slash that is in VR not Izzy.

There is NO official release date. Any release dates so far have been made up by bloggers and record stores.

Yeah, Our chain pulled the listing we had for a G'N'R new release on the 14th sso I'm doubting it will be anytine before the year ends.

Sirius' Hair Nation channel reported today that it may come out the 21st of this month. I'm not holding my breath though.

Can't be. If it was that close, word would've leaked out by the CD pressing plant. There's no way they could press up 300,000 copies for first week sales in 2 weeks.

Also, the record company certainly would like people to know the release date in advance so that they could get the stores to order the CD. It's not supposed to be a secret.

No way it's coming out in 2006. No way.

I haven't seen so many people excited about being disappointed since The Phantom Menace...

The following is from Wikipedia, so take it for what it's worth:

Can anyone with any retail connections that aren't HMV confirm?

I'd like to warn everyone that if/when this does come out that my review in this thread will be much like Star Wars fan boys after first seeing TPM. Take it with a huge grain of salt.

Or it's just a new band that's found a clever way to market itself.

LOL, that would be genius. I always thought that the Offspring should've stuck with their guns and called their last album (2 albums ago? the one that came out 3-4 years ago) "Chinese Democracy".

Okay, I don't know how music retail works, but don't stores have to actually order albums?

If they don't have any kind of release date for Chinese Democracy, then how does it end up in stores? At some point, don't the chain's buyers (not to mention independent stores) have to actually order them?

Or they just going to drop crates of the CD at all of the stores Tuesday morning?

Traditionally, yes they would order in advance from a list of upcoming titles.

However, with an artist as "big" as this, and a title that has "built in" sales to it - all it would take would be for the label to contact the various buyers and distributers and go "It's coming out next week. How many do you want?" This would still give them (the label) enough time to process/place orders, and get it into stores for a specific date, even if they had to rush ship it.

While true the labels would like as much time as possible to promote the album in advance as possible, given the nature and history of the album/band in question, all they'd really need was a weekend or couple of days of press releases to MTV, Radio and the like to get the word out in time for enough people to know about it.

Now, for the album in question...speaking as someone who has been a buyer for a music chain before (which must reamin nameless), and is still in contact with many lables, including the one GnR is on - I have heard of NO specific release date for this album. It's going to come out when it comes out. And, I think beacuse of the highly unpredicatble nature of one Axl Rose, the label doesn't want to say until it's a 100% sure thing.

Let's just say there are 7,527,319 Tuesdays until the heat death of the universe.

I honestly want to hear the new music, but the way this is being handled is really getting ridiculous. $50 bucks says Axl's garage is filled with boxes of the pressed CD's just waiting til....well, what, exactly? How much time does he need that hasn't already been wasted? Is he going to re-record all the tracks everytime a new musician is brought into the touring lineup? I just don't understand.

I predict there will be democracy in China before Chinese Democracy comes out on CD

Wow.... that's funny.....

Seriously, what is with all the in this thread?

If you are not interested, then move on!

This thread is about the ever-changing release date for Chinese Democracy. IMRICKJAMES made a logical statement about the release date. Where's the threadcrap?

There's never been an official release date so how can it be ever-changing?