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GoldenJCJ 05-27-24 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 14430479)
I wonder, is talking about the 1993 laserdisc release when it came out, or is he talking about the 2005 DVDs they slapped the laserdisc masters onto? Because I think the laserdiscs were praised when first released, but by 2005, they were woefully behind what other studios were doing with films on DVD. So yes, "everybody got really mad" with the 2005 DVD release of the laserdisc masters, but that was because it was woefully out of date.

I remember people in 2005 were speculating that’s exactly what Lucas was doing with those shitty non-anamorphic releases: Lucas claimed the original trilogy didn’t look good and then released the shittiest versions possible so he could say, “See, I told you the originals looked like crap! Now you know why I HAVE to only release the special editions from now on.”

Nevermind that amateurs have proved him wrong with all the unofficial releases over the last 10 or 15 years.

Lucas’ statements are disingenuous at best and complete gaslighting at worst.

Jay G. 05-27-24 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 14430502)
I remember people in 2005 were speculating that’s exactly what Lucas was doing with those shitty non-anamorphic releases: Lucas claimed the original trilogy didn’t look good and then released the shittiest versions possible so he could say, “See, I told you the originals looked like crap! Now you know why I HAVE to only release the special editions from now on.”

What I heard is that there were some staff inside Lucasfilm pushing to include the original versions as a bonus, something to make these Limited Edition DVDs notable. Lucas relented, with one condition: they couldn't spend basically any money on the original versions. So they were forced to use the best existing transfers they already had, which were the laserdisc masters.

On one hand, it's basically a minor miracle Lucas allowed the original versions to be included at all. On the other hand, it seems like he's using the negative reaction to that release as further justification for not releasing them in any better format.

Spiderbite 05-31-24 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan (Post 14429809)
I’m less than half way through Jenny’s video, but it’s fascinating.

She’s one of the most genuine YouTubers on this stuff and this video is fantastic.

I have never heard of her but only 30 minutes into the interview and I am sold. She is a great writer/reviewer and sincerely hilarious.

I am definitely going to finish the whole 4 hours and check out some of her other stuff.

Artman 05-31-24 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiderbite (Post 14430473)
Well, it is nice to know that Lucas is still the selfish asshole he has always been since he still will not release remastered versions of the original trilogy.

As brilliant as the OT was, he has always done a poor job of managing the IP since, and with no succession plan either. Besides ditching the originals, we had substandard releases of the Special Editions on every format. It is so odd given how interested he was in every unimportant visual detail of the prequels, but didn't bother to give the same attention to any other aspects.

Dan 05-31-24 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiderbite (Post 14432357)
I have never heard of her but only 30 minutes into the interview and I am sold. She is a great writer/reviewer and sincerely hilarious.

I am definitely going to finish the whole 4 hours and check out some of her other stuff.

nice!
Oh, I watched this video twice.:lol: second time was just to get my wife to watch the first 20 minutes or so to understand what the hotel was about, and we ended up watching the whole thing in two sittings. Never distracted by our phones.
What’s great about this video is that she’s completely fair in her observations and critiques. She’s not the type to act like the entire thing was terrible and points out plenty of positive aspects like the food and the actors and other genuinely neat things. But her complaints are all absolutely valid, particularly when she gets to the part about the dinner show and the excursion to the actual theme park to do menial tasks in the shitty app.

I hope you enjoy the rest of it :)

milo bloom 06-01-24 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Artman (Post 14432415)
As brilliant as the OT was, he has always done a poor job of managing the IP since, and with no succession plan either. Besides ditching the originals, we had substandard releases of the Special Editions on every format. It is so odd given how interested he was in every unimportant visual detail of the prequels, but didn't bother to give the same attention to any other aspects.

We never even got a physical release of the original versions of the SE as seen in theaters and VHS/LD.


I still believe that one of the things that started the backlash against Lucas in the late 90s was his avoidance of the DVD format. Aside from suppressing the original versions, only releasing the SEs and then Episode One only on last generation formats created a lot of bad blood in the fandom. A boxset of the SEs on double sided discs (widescreen and pan and scan) with even a few extras would have done a lot to keep in good with the community.

Spiderbite 06-01-24 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 14432555)
We never even got a physical release of the original versions of the SE as seen in theaters and VHS/LD.


I still believe that one of the things that started the backlash against Lucas in the late 90s was his avoidance of the DVD format. Aside from suppressing the original versions, only releasing the SEs and then Episode One only on last generation formats created a lot of bad blood in the fandom. A boxset of the SEs on double sided discs (widescreen and pan and scan) with even a few extras would have done a lot to keep in good with the community.

I had actually forgotten about that.

He has had his head so far up his own ass for so many decades no wonder he doesn't give a shit about his own films' preservation.

joe_b 06-04-24 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nesbit (Post 14428544)
Even if you never had an interest in going you should check out the video. Jenny Nicholson is one of the best on youtube.

For content that is justifiably critical of the corporate side of Disney, I was amused to spot the name Leslye Headland (creator of the latest Disney+ Star Wars show) on the list of Nicholson's Patreon supporters at the end of the Starcruiser video.

Spiderbite 06-05-24 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan (Post 14432423)
nice!
Oh, I watched this video twice.:lol: second time was just to get my wife to watch the first 20 minutes or so to understand what the hotel was about, and we ended up watching the whole thing in two sittings. Never distracted by our phones.
What’s great about this video is that she’s completely fair in her observations and critiques. She’s not the type to act like the entire thing was terrible and points out plenty of positive aspects like the food and the actors and other genuinely neat things. But her complaints are all absolutely valid, particularly when she gets to the part about the dinner show and the excursion to the actual theme park to do menial tasks in the shitty app.

I hope you enjoy the rest of it :)

I finally finished it the other day. It was a fantastic piece of criticism and I wish our news media would apply her basic tenets to more important news.

Anyway, if people do not want to watch the entire 4 hours, I recommend at least watching her last 10 minutes which is a chapter called "Robbed." You can easily skip to it since she has chapter stops. It points out not just what is wrong with the Star Wars Hotel but Disney as a whole. A lot of critics want to say that Disney is fucking up because they have gone "woke" but this chapter spells out exactly why Disney is currently fucking up their business. And it could be applied to their movies as well as so many other businesses right now. Fainthearted, do not worry, she doesn't even touch on politics or use the "W" word.

She is great and deserves whatever kudos she gets for this piece. It has amazingly hit over 7.1 million views currently and it is a 4-hour video! Holy shit!

It has even hit Forbes, so this video is making some serious waves, stunningly.

The ‘Spectacular’ Failure Of Disney’s ‘Star Wars’ Hotel Is Going Viral (forbes.com)

DJariya 11-07-24 11:47 AM

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Wake me up if they start rolling cameras


DJariya 11-07-24 11:56 AM

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MLBFan24 11-07-24 12:05 PM

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Or new path backward...


Knights of the Old Republic!


Seriously though, they need to just use the Legends content as source material for the movies. The Thrawn material already proves they are willing to do it.

Hailey G 11-07-24 12:34 PM

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Exciting!

Let me know when its cancelled.

MisterMike 11-07-24 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Obi-Wanma (Post 14507013)
Exciting!

Let me know when its cancelled.

I was gonna say. Not another Star Wars movie announcement. They have to stop.

rocket1312 11-07-24 01:31 PM

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They were able to get Kinberg?! What a coup! I've always said if your franchise needs a shot in the arm, get the guy responsible for the X-Men movies. But not the good ones. The crappy ones.

GoldenJCJ 11-07-24 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 14507060)
They were able to get Kinberg?! What a coup! I've always said if your franchise needs a shot in the arm, get the guy responsible for the X-Men movies. But not the good ones. The crappy ones.

Come on now. He also wrote Fantastic Four. Not the mediocre ones, the extremely shitty one!

stvn1974 11-07-24 07:00 PM

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Have there been more cancelled Star Wars movies than actual Star Wars movies yet?

GoldenJCJ 11-07-24 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stvn1974 (Post 14507252)
Have there been more cancelled Star Wars movies than actual Star Wars movies yet?

That’s only because LucasFilm/Disney are efficient. They Greenlight and then cancel entire trilogies at a time.

Josh-da-man 11-07-24 09:24 PM

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Michael Corvin 11-07-24 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 14507060)
They were able to get Kinberg?! What a coup! I've always said if your franchise needs a shot in the arm, get the guy responsible for the X-Men movies. But not the good ones. The crappy ones.

I had to look him up because his name sounded familiar and not in a good way but then I saw Days of Future Past. Can't be that bad right? But also, Last Stand, Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix a trifecta of the worst three X-men movies (I like Origins: Wolverine which he didn't do).

That mockery aside, looks like he had a hand in Star Wars: Rebels which is solid SW pedigree. I guess it just depends on how much he was involved in the day-to-day of the show.

Artman 11-08-24 05:52 AM

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An actual planned out trilogy is indeed the way imo. Now, if it's truly about new characters than I don't see why it needs to be sequels, I'd rather they just springboard off of Mangold's origin film and start from the beginning.

Timber 11-08-24 07:41 AM

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They had me with Kathleen Kennedy. I'm IN!!!!

Oh wait, these will never come out so what's the point?

milo bloom 11-08-24 03:47 PM

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Has there been an actual announcement? All the stuff I'm seeing is from vague sources.

It's not unrealistic, but after how Disney has handled everything, I could see myself waiting to watch them until I can stream all three over a weekend from the comfort of my couch.

DJariya 11-08-24 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 14507743)
Has there been an actual announcement? All the stuff I'm seeing is from vague sources.

It's not unrealistic, but after how Disney has handled everything, I could see myself waiting to watch them until I can stream all three over a weekend from the comfort of my couch.

Like an "Official" press release. No.

But, Deadline reported that Lucasfilm closed a deal with him.

MisterMike 11-10-24 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Timber (Post 14507467)
They had me with Kathleen Kennedy. I'm IN!!!!

Oh wait, these will never come out so what's the point?

Seriously on the Kathleen Kennedy comment? Gee. I think she needs to move on and they ought put someone else in charge of Star Wars for a while. But, this trilogy won’t come out anyways. And the guy they chose to direct doesn’t exactly have a glowing resume either. They just keep throwing unqualified and uninspiring people at these projects. Maybe they can get Leslie Headlamp to do it? :lol:


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