Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
#926
re: Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
Two More Women Accuse Jeremy Piven Of Sexual Misconduct: Reports
http://deadline.com/2017/11/jeremy-p...by-1202204960/
http://deadline.com/2017/11/jeremy-p...by-1202204960/
#927
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Rumors around Louis for years...
Louis C.K.'s Movie Premiere Canceled in Advance of N.Y. Times Story
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ebook_20171109
Louis C.K.'s Movie Premiere Canceled in Advance of N.Y. Times Story
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ebook_20171109
#928
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Originally Posted by Decker
Nothing in that article mentions the NY Times story or any allegations of misconduct by Louis.
It is pre-emptive. It doesn't say there are allegations.
#929
DVD Talk Legend
re: Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
Next! Allison Mack.
Former Smallville actress is 'second in command of sex cult under investigation for extorting, beating and branding its members
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#931
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— Ed Westwick (@EdWestwick) November 9, 2017
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#932
DVD Talk Legend
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My final audition for a Steven Segal movie took place in his office. He told me how important it was to have chemistry off-screen as he sat me down and unzipped his leather pants. I️ ran out and called my agent. Unfazed, she replied, “well, I didn’t know if he was your type.”
— Portia de Rossi (@portiaderossi) November 8, 2017
— Portia de Rossi (@portiaderossi) November 8, 2017
#933
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
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^ I know he's not her type.
#934
DVD Talk God
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Rumors around Louis for years...
Louis C.K.'s Movie Premiere Canceled in Advance of N.Y. Times Story
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ebook_20171109
Louis C.K.'s Movie Premiere Canceled in Advance of N.Y. Times Story
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ebook_20171109
#936
RIP
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The NY Times piece is out: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/a...isconduct.html
#937
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The NY Times piece is out: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/a...isconduct.html
#939
DVD Talk Legend
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If I was a betting man, my money would be on it being true.
He didn't outright deny it a few weeks back.. he just said that they were "just rumors" (which doesn't negate it from being true).
I wouldn't be surprised if he caved in and admitted to it either.
What's with these guys and forcing women to watch/listen to them masturbating?
He didn't outright deny it a few weeks back.. he just said that they were "just rumors" (which doesn't negate it from being true).
I wouldn't be surprised if he caved in and admitted to it either.
What's with these guys and forcing women to watch/listen to them masturbating?
#940
RIP
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Well, I am not ready to pass judgement on any of this stuff until it's investigated and due process is followed. Too many people in the court of public opinion overly eager to ruin lives and careers before this happens.
#941
DVD Talk Limited Edition
#943
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
re: Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
Same here. The climate is so hot right now that anyone who has a grudge against someone in the industry has the power to instantly ruin them. And posting a stern denial of the allegations on social media is a waste of time since it won't change public opinion.
#944
DVD Talk Hero
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I was expecting more from the CK write-up. That story has been out there for a long time now, I think he even commented once that "I never said I was perfect." and it's gross, but I dunno -- still mild compared to these other ones.
#945
Challenge Guru & Comic Nerd
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I can't read more than a couple NYTimes or WaPost articles a month before hitting the paywall. It appears that most of you don't have that issue. Is it something a strange simple as using a browser without cookies, or what?
#947
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But seriously, this seems to be just anyone now over the last 40 years thats done anything even slightly considered inappropriate that getting thrown under the bus. I know a lot of these cases are real, but there are going to be some that simply want 15 minutes of fame or the chance of a potentially easy pay day. I think this is reducing the overall impact for the real victims as its getting to the eye rolling point of anything being considered inappropriate.
It's an understudied phenomenon, this collective process, but it's as regular as the tides. With every news story there comes a moment of satiety so absolute that the weight of it trumps any story's actual merits. After everyone reads one too many descriptions of the same incident — whether it's allegations about Russian electoral interference or sexual harassment or rape — a reactionary mood sets in. It's the urge everyone gets as a news cycle crests: That's all very well and good, but come on. Time for the takedown, the pushback, the cooler heads that will reason the volume of the tide away.
We all know what will come next. As in 2006, when the Duke lacrosse case gripped the news; as in 2014, when Rolling Stone published it's piece about an alleged rape at UVA, one of the accounts coming out during this wave will be in some way disproved. When that happens, the familiar landslide of public opinion will turn. The incident will become a muted indictment of the hundreds of real victims who have come forward to tell their stories. Much of the public will seize that one false story as an excuse to facilitate the calming of the waters, the burying of a conversation so ugly and difficult that we regress to truisms about "human nature" and try to explain sexual predations as mere "awkwardness" or hapless attempts at flirting.
There are plenty of cognitive distortions aiding that backlash — from the "identifiable victim effect," by which we sympathize more with individual victims than with groups (so as the number of accusers grow, we grow less charitable toward them and suspect them of bandwagoning). There's system justification, a cognitive bias in which alternatives to the existing system feel threatening, so people mistake their psychological relief at reverting to a less confusing status quo with "reasonable skepticism."
But there are two more terms I'd like to suggest. One is the Anti-Bandwagon Fallacy. It's the belief that a news item's truth content actually diminishes as more people come forward with corroborating stories. The other is the Newtonian News Fallacy, by which, for every news story, there must eventually be an equal and opposite news story.
The coming backlash is built in, it's waiting in the wings, and the people who eventually espouse it will be convinced they're seeing through the news rather than participating in the rhythms this particularly dysfunctional media landscape confuses with the truth.
We all know what will come next. As in 2006, when the Duke lacrosse case gripped the news; as in 2014, when Rolling Stone published it's piece about an alleged rape at UVA, one of the accounts coming out during this wave will be in some way disproved. When that happens, the familiar landslide of public opinion will turn. The incident will become a muted indictment of the hundreds of real victims who have come forward to tell their stories. Much of the public will seize that one false story as an excuse to facilitate the calming of the waters, the burying of a conversation so ugly and difficult that we regress to truisms about "human nature" and try to explain sexual predations as mere "awkwardness" or hapless attempts at flirting.
There are plenty of cognitive distortions aiding that backlash — from the "identifiable victim effect," by which we sympathize more with individual victims than with groups (so as the number of accusers grow, we grow less charitable toward them and suspect them of bandwagoning). There's system justification, a cognitive bias in which alternatives to the existing system feel threatening, so people mistake their psychological relief at reverting to a less confusing status quo with "reasonable skepticism."
But there are two more terms I'd like to suggest. One is the Anti-Bandwagon Fallacy. It's the belief that a news item's truth content actually diminishes as more people come forward with corroborating stories. The other is the Newtonian News Fallacy, by which, for every news story, there must eventually be an equal and opposite news story.
The coming backlash is built in, it's waiting in the wings, and the people who eventually espouse it will be convinced they're seeing through the news rather than participating in the rhythms this particularly dysfunctional media landscape confuses with the truth.
#948
DVD Talk Hero
#949
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The coming backlash is built in, it's waiting in the wings, and the people who eventually espouse it will be convinced they're seeing through the news rather than participating in the rhythms this particularly dysfunctional media landscape confuses with the truth.
#950
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Victims are the ones outing these people, not some overarching evil authority.