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Old 03-02-15, 05:31 PM
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

Originally Posted by RocShemp
Unless the show in which said character was in get's cancelled after he died in the season 2 finale.
This is in reference to what?
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

Originally Posted by Solid Snake
This is in reference to what?
The TV show Young Justice. Wally West "dies" in the end of season 2, and there were supposedly plans to explain what happened in the following season (Speedforce and all that) but the show was cancelled.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017)

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Spoiler:
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Old 03-02-15, 07:09 PM
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

Didnt he say mostly?
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

Originally Posted by fumanstan
The TV show Young Justice. Wally West "dies" in the end of season 2, and there were supposedly plans to explain what happened in the following season (Speedforce and all that) but the show was cancelled.
He'll be back... but as a black kid. Which is surprisingly on-topic kind of.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

Originally Posted by Giantrobo
I agree with Rodriguez in that she clarified saying Minorities need their own characters and not just Minority versions of White ones. Minorities don't need White people's sloppy seconds.
The problem with this is that it's really, really hard for Marvel and DC to come up with new characters that 'stick.'

How many characters can you name that created after 1970 who are popular enough to support their own books that aren't connected to another character? Wolverine. Punisher. Lobo. Deadpool. (We could include any number of X-Men in here, though. That franchise sort of has its own set rules, though few characters can achieve marquee status outside of their X-books.)

Nearly all of the popular characters are rooted in the pre-civil rights eras of the golden and silver age, so they're all going to be white in their most recognizable versions.

Also combine this with the fact that comic book writers and artists are reluctant to create wholly new characters they won't have a significant ownership stake in.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

Originally Posted by fumanstan
The TV show Young Justice. Wally West "dies" in the end of season 2, and there were supposedly plans to explain what happened in the following season (Speedforce and all that) but the show was cancelled.
Fuck. Every time I see people talk about this show I get pissed at how it was canceled. Every damn time. It was so good. Grrr
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

Originally Posted by Deftones
Fuck. Every time I see people talk about this show I get pissed at how it was canceled. Every damn time. It was so good. Grrr
Given they will never bring it back (unless Netflix or Amazon agree to do another season of it for their streaming service), I'd like to see a series of DTV movies that pick up where the show left off.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
The problem with this is that it's really, really hard for Marvel and DC to come up with new characters that 'stick.'

How many characters can you name that created after 1970 who are popular enough to support their own books that aren't connected to another character? Wolverine. Punisher. Lobo. Deadpool. (We could include any number of X-Men in here, though. That franchise sort of has its own set rules, though few characters can achieve marquee status outside of their X-books.)

Nearly all of the popular characters are rooted in the pre-civil rights eras of the golden and silver age, so they're all going to be white in their most recognizable versions.

Also combine this with the fact that comic book writers and artists are reluctant to create wholly new characters they won't have a significant ownership stake in.
Fair Enough. Look, I don't really blame Comic Companies and Writers for making these changes to drum up attention because when all is said and done...IT'S A BUSINESS. They have to figure out new ways to bring folks in. Long time Comic book fans either forget this or they turn their nose up to it.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

Originally Posted by fujishig
As a Wally West fan, I can tell you that nobody truly dies in comics, even if years and years and years pass...
It's been 29 years since I have seen the real Superboy, though it has been suggested by those in the know that was a conscious legal maneuver since his legal rights and ownership situation were different than Superman's rights.
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Fair Enough. Look, I don't really blame Comic Companies and Writers for making these changes to drum up attention because when all is said and done...IT'S A BUSINESS. They have to figure out new ways to bring folks in. Long time Comic book fans either forget this or they turn their nose up to it.
I've ways thought it was sort of the opposite. Comics, for so long now, have been catering to a locked-in fanbase. These changes almost never stick, and when all is said and done, basically just move in circles.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

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I've ways thought it was sort of the opposite. Comics, for so long now, have been catering to a locked-in fanbase. These changes almost never stick, and when all is said and done, basically just move in circles.
But even if the change is short term, it still brings attention.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

http://origin.www.vanityfair.com/hol...n-drew-goddard

"According to Latino Review, a large part of the new Spider-Man movie (called Spectacular Spider-Man) will feature Iron Man and Spider-Man going toe-to-toe as a test of sorts to see if Spider-Man is tough enough to be in the Avengers. Spidey’s wise cracks vs. Iron-Man’s sarcasm? Everybody wins! "

***I will the be the first one in line for this, if it is true***
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138
I've ways thought it was sort of the opposite. Comics, for so long now, have been catering to a locked-in fanbase. These changes almost never stick, and when all is said and done, basically just move in circles.
Exactly. Changes to a character are made to appease a certain group of people and the problem is a lot of comic fans reject whatever change is made and rarely do new fans get drawn in just by making a change to a character's race, gender, orientation, or whatever. Now granted a film may be somewhat different but overall changes just seemingly are made as a desperate attempt to shake things up but normally don't stick and things eventually go back to how they were rendering the changes pretty much pointless.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

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http://origin.www.vanityfair.com/hol...n-drew-goddard

"According to Latino Review, a large part of the new Spider-Man movie (called Spectacular Spider-Man) will feature Iron Man and Spider-Man going toe-to-toe as a test of sorts to see if Spider-Man is tough enough to be in the Avengers. Spidey’s wise cracks vs. Iron-Man’s sarcasm? Everybody wins! "

***I will the be the first one in line for this, if it is true***
maybe this is what RDJ was teasing with that twitter post a bit ago.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

Originally Posted by Iron_Giant
http://origin.www.vanityfair.com/hol...n-drew-goddard

"According to Latino Review, a large part of the new Spider-Man movie (called Spectacular Spider-Man) will feature Iron Man and Spider-Man going toe-to-toe as a test of sorts to see if Spider-Man is tough enough to be in the Avengers. Spidey’s wise cracks vs. Iron-Man’s sarcasm? Everybody wins! "

***I will the be the first one in line for this, if it is true***
Hmmm...so now Iron Man has to be pimped out to every solo movie too? Too much of a good thing if you ask me.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

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Hmmm...so now Iron Man has to be pimped out to every solo movie too? Too much of a good thing if you ask me.
Well RDJ had talked a while back about using him in a lesser capacity. Basically, instead of his headlining his own movies, he'd be another Samuel L. Jackson to this franchise. I'm sure Disney negotiated a smaller fee to use him that way.

That said, I still want an Iron Man 4 to resolve the scenario set up by All Hail The King.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

^ Yeah. Gimme the real Mandarin, dammit! I did enjoy Kingsley's take on the character but I wanna see the true Mandarin in all his glory.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

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Well RDJ had talked a while back about using him in a lesser capacity. Basically, instead of his headlining his own movies, he'd be another Samuel L. Jackson to this franchise. I'm sure Disney negotiated a smaller fee to use him that way.

That said, I still want an Iron Man 4 to resolve the scenario set up by All Hail The King.
Yes. We need resolution to AHTK.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

I wonder if we'll actually get a fourth Iron Man film or not. It seems like it would have to be a long ways off given that Marvel's already announced a bunch of their upcoming films. I wonder if they're trying to use Stark as much as possible because Downey Jr. may be done soon.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

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^ Yeah. Gimme the real Mandarin, dammit! I did enjoy Kingsley's take on the character but I wanna see the true Mandarin in all his glory.
This will never happen. The IM3 version of the Mandarin is the Mandarin in the MCU. Everyone just needs to accept it.

I'm stoked about Goddard taking this on.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

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This will never happen. The IM3 version of the Mandarin is the Mandarin in the MCU. Everyone just needs to accept it.
Not according to All Hail the King.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

Originally Posted by Draven
This will never happen. The IM3 version of the Mandarin is the Mandarin in the MCU. Everyone just needs to accept it.
You couldn't be more wrong.

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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

No way would they do another IM film with MDJ and not use the real Mandarin. Would be the best way for it to conclude with the current actors.
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Re: Spider-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot) (July 28, 2017, D: Goddard)

That One Shot is so fucking good.

Hell of a fucking tease.


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