Future DC Studios projects discussion thread - News, rumors, etc.
09-05-14, 02:02 PM
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I think the notions put forward by Alan Moore translate very well to what the movie companies are doing with their licenses. Marvel are building a mythology and ensuring that threads between characters link successfully and that this continues throughout their future productions. DC/WB seems to be handling this less well. They are rebooting Batman for the third time in 17 years and Superman for the second time in less than 10 years. I think the more characters are rebooted, repeated or rehashed the less inclined audiences are to embrace them. We see this with a character like Spiderman. I hope DC has a more solid game plan going forward, but i think throwing all their main characters into the boiling pot at the same time is not the best of first steps.
Batman has been rebooted twice, not three times. Burton/Schumacher to Nolan to Man of Steel is two reboots.
Also, using Spider-Man as an example of people hating reboots is a poor choice. People just hate bad movies period, and other than Spider-Man 2, the Spider-Man movies haven't really been that good.
Batman Begins was a good reboot, and people loved it. X-Men First Class was a quasi-reboot, and it was well received as well. So saying people hate reboots is not really accurate.
People are just getting tired of Spider-Man because those movies have a poor track record period; it's not really related to it being rebooted at all.
09-05-14, 02:12 PM
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re: Future DC Studios projects discussion thread - News, rumors, etc.
I think the notions put forward by Alan Moore translate very well to what the movie companies are doing with their licenses. Marvel are building a mythology and ensuring that threads between characters link successfully and that this continues throughout their future productions. DC/WB seems to be handling this less well. They are rebooting Batman for the third time in 17 years and Superman for the second time in less than 10 years. I think the more characters are rebooted, repeated or rehashed the less inclined audiences are to embrace them. We see this with a character like Spiderman. I hope DC has a more solid game plan going forward, but i think throwing all their main characters into the boiling pot at the same time is not the best of first steps.
09-05-14, 02:18 PM
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People claim this, but I have never seen proof. DC rebooted the whole DCU, not just Superman. The New 52 was a complete reboot of everything. The New 52 was done because sales were extremely poor. Using gimmicks like relaunching with shiny new #1 issues and killing off characters is a gimmick to boost sales that has been in use since the 1990s.
09-05-14, 02:25 PM
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Apparently the plan was to reboot Superman (maybe some others), because Morrison's plot for Action was supposedly done before the new 52 came about... maybe this was because of the lawsuit, who knows? But poor sales caused them to do a full reboot (well, not really, because of Johns on GL and Morrison on Bats, but close enough) out of Flashpoint. The problem in my eyes was that it was so sudden, and unlike, say, Shooter's early Valiant, poorly mapped out (hence the two Lobos, the contradictions, hiring Liefeld, etc.), with what seemed like constant editorial interference to try to smooth things out. But hey, it did boost sales, and that's what mattered to them. Plus they got the underwear-on-the-outside look off of Superman in time for MoS.
09-05-14, 02:30 PM
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Superman Returns was at least a soft reboot, asking us to disregard the last two movies in the previous series.
09-05-14, 03:55 PM
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Superman hasn't been rebooted twice. We had Donner's Superman and then Man of Steel. That's one reboot. Superman Returns wasn't a reboot. It was in the Donner continuity.
Batman has been rebooted twice, not three times. Burton/Schumacher to Nolan to Man of Steel is two reboots.
Also, using Spider-Man as an example of people hating reboots is a poor choice. People just hate bad movies period, and other than Spider-Man 2, the Spider-Man movies haven't really been that good.
Batman Begins was a good reboot, and people loved it. X-Men First Class was a quasi-reboot, and it was well received as well. So saying people hate reboots is not really accurate.
People are just getting tired of Spider-Man because those movies have a poor track record period; it's not really related to it being rebooted at all.
Batman has been rebooted twice, not three times. Burton/Schumacher to Nolan to Man of Steel is two reboots.
Also, using Spider-Man as an example of people hating reboots is a poor choice. People just hate bad movies period, and other than Spider-Man 2, the Spider-Man movies haven't really been that good.
Batman Begins was a good reboot, and people loved it. X-Men First Class was a quasi-reboot, and it was well received as well. So saying people hate reboots is not really accurate.
People are just getting tired of Spider-Man because those movies have a poor track record period; it's not really related to it being rebooted at all.
1. Superman Returns might have been a continuation in idea, but most saw it as a reboot. Totally new cast...yeah....thats a reboot thanks.
2. Batman has been rebooted 3 times. The Burton/Schumacher, Nolan and now the Snyder version. Thats 3.
3. You missed my main point, being that its better to build a universe of characters with a cohesive plan rather than throw them all together without thinking too much about giving each character time to grow and their subsequent space within the world you are creating and their relationships with other characters.
And i am not saying that all reboots can be bad, i am saying that people get tired quicker when they keep reseting characters, rather than trying to iron out issues and make the character between developed on the big screen.
09-05-14, 04:35 PM
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09-05-14, 06:54 PM
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I always just thought Superman was rebooted simply because fans didn't really care much for Superman Returns 
09-09-14, 07:42 PM
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RUMOR from "Latino-Review" that DC/WB is planning a "Legion of Super-Hero" Movie as one of the 9 Dates they have reserved for future movies.
-Not sure how true it is, but please let it be true.
Started reading LoSH since Mike Grell took over in 1974 and have kept up with them throughout my life.
I have saying for about a year now that DC need to make this movie.
So many things they can do with the Legion...
-Origin Story
-SO many different characters and planets to work with
-Space Battles
-"espionage squad"
-Time travel (Time Trapper, that would be a great "End Credit" to see him with the Sand Glass)
-Supergirl
-Entire Universe in peril
-Legion of Super-Villians (Not the 1st movie, 2nd or 3rd)
-Fatal Five (great bad guys)
-Science Police
-Great Space Ship design (the one from the early 70s)
-Substitute Legion of Super-Hero's (Very funny and with heart)
-Tryouts to become apart of the Legion (Very funny and Cool)
-SO MUCH MORE
I would take this over any other product from Marvel or DC, it is just my personal favorite.
-Not sure how true it is, but please let it be true.
Started reading LoSH since Mike Grell took over in 1974 and have kept up with them throughout my life.
I have saying for about a year now that DC need to make this movie.
So many things they can do with the Legion...
-Origin Story
-SO many different characters and planets to work with
-Space Battles
-"espionage squad"
-Time travel (Time Trapper, that would be a great "End Credit" to see him with the Sand Glass)
-Supergirl
-Entire Universe in peril
-Legion of Super-Villians (Not the 1st movie, 2nd or 3rd)
-Fatal Five (great bad guys)
-Science Police
-Great Space Ship design (the one from the early 70s)
-Substitute Legion of Super-Hero's (Very funny and with heart)
-Tryouts to become apart of the Legion (Very funny and Cool)
-SO MUCH MORE
I would take this over any other product from Marvel or DC, it is just my personal favorite.
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09-29-14, 01:03 PM
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The Batman in 2019? From Latino Review so take it for what it's worth.
http://www.latino-review.com/news/ho...fflecks-batman
http://www.latino-review.com/news/ho...fflecks-batman
According to sources, I'm hearing the studio is eyeing 2019 for the standalone Batman film and I even got a working title: THE BATMAN.
Let's break it down. Batman v Superman: Dawn Of Justice League should be ending production in December, then they break for the holidays and go into production on Justice League in the winter of 2015.
Affleck then takes a break from donning the cape and in the summer of 2015, he writes, directs, and stars in his period gangster film Live By Night. The film's scheduled to hit theaters in October 2016. The studio has the time after Live By Night's release to develop the screenplay to the standalone Batman film ready to start production either in 2017 or 2018. It wouldn't surprise me if they actively start developing the script after Justice League or sooner.
Let's break it down. Batman v Superman: Dawn Of Justice League should be ending production in December, then they break for the holidays and go into production on Justice League in the winter of 2015.
Affleck then takes a break from donning the cape and in the summer of 2015, he writes, directs, and stars in his period gangster film Live By Night. The film's scheduled to hit theaters in October 2016. The studio has the time after Live By Night's release to develop the screenplay to the standalone Batman film ready to start production either in 2017 or 2018. It wouldn't surprise me if they actively start developing the script after Justice League or sooner.
09-29-14, 01:08 PM
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The Batman in 2019? From Latino Review so take it for what it's worth.
http://www.latino-review.com/news/ho...fflecks-batman
http://www.latino-review.com/news/ho...fflecks-batman
09-29-14, 06:26 PM
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2019 is five years away. I kind of doubt the rumor because I doubt WB wants to go five years with no solo Batman movie. I would expect a solo Batman movie before the Justice League movie. Batman in 2017 and Justice League in 2018 probably.
09-29-14, 06:48 PM
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Batman v Superman isn't until 2016 though, so only 3 years from that movie's release. And it seems like it would line up with the rumored schedule of DC movies.
09-29-14, 06:51 PM
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Didn't WB show a rough sketch a few months ago that looked similar to Marvel's approach with two or three movies every year? So something like BvS in 2016, Batman in 2017, JL in 2018 makes sense.
Plus, given Affleck's age, if WB wants a solo Batman trilogy out of him then they need to get started ASAP.
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09-29-14, 06:54 PM
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And yes, the rough sketch is what I was referring to. It's the first post of the thread.
09-29-14, 07:05 PM
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BvS isn't a solo Batman movie though. It's more like Justice League Year Zero. I would expect WB would want a solo Batman movie sooner than later.
Didn't WB show a rough sketch a few months ago that looked similar to Marvel's approach with two or three movies every year? So something like BvS in 2016, Batman in 2017, JL in 2018 makes sense.
Plus, given Affleck's age, if WB wants a new solo Batman trilogy out of him they need to get going ASAP.
Didn't WB show a rough sketch a few months ago that looked similar to Marvel's approach with two or three movies every year? So something like BvS in 2016, Batman in 2017, JL in 2018 makes sense.
Plus, given Affleck's age, if WB wants a new solo Batman trilogy out of him they need to get going ASAP.
I'm sure a lot of us thought WB would have expected a solo Batman movie sooner, but then again a lot of their decisions don't seem to make a lot of sense to fans. I wouldn't think they would wait 3 years from Man of Steel for a follow up or cram a bunch of cameos and heroes into the next movie either, but here we are.
2017 seems like wishful thinking and would be nice, but doesn't line up with all the rumors we've seen. And as the article said, Affleck has his own other projects he'll be working on.
10-15-14, 12:28 PM
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FINALLY found this thread. News from Warner's CEO about DC's output up to 2020.
Deadline.com
Warner Bros. CEO Kevin Tsujihara announced planes for a two-part Justice League movie along with six other films.
The Justice League will be directed by Zack Snyder and broken into two parts with the first being released in 2017 and the second 2019.
The rest of the films are as follows:
Staring in 2016 will be The Suicide Squad. This is in discussion with 4 A-list stars according to the announcement.
In 2017 will be Justice League pt 1 and Wonder Woman.
2018 will bring us The Flash and Aquaman.
2019 gets Shazam (with Duane Johnson) and Justice League pt 2
And finally 2020 gets Cyborg and Green Lantern.
The Justice League will be directed by Zack Snyder and broken into two parts with the first being released in 2017 and the second 2019.
The rest of the films are as follows:
Staring in 2016 will be The Suicide Squad. This is in discussion with 4 A-list stars according to the announcement.
In 2017 will be Justice League pt 1 and Wonder Woman.
2018 will bring us The Flash and Aquaman.
2019 gets Shazam (with Duane Johnson) and Justice League pt 2
And finally 2020 gets Cyborg and Green Lantern.
Deadline.com
10-15-14, 12:35 PM
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‘The Flash’ Movie to Star Ezra Miller, Out in 2018
October 15, 2014 | 09:19AM PT Justin Kroll
Hot on the heels of DC Comics icon “The Flash’s” small-screen success on The CW, Warner Bros. has confirmed that a standalone “Flash” movie is coming in 2018. The film will be unaffiliated with The CW series and will feature a new actor in the role: Ezra Miller.
During the Time Warner earnings meeting Warner Bros. Chairman and CEO Kevin Tsujihara announced “The Flash” would bow in 2018.
No writer or director are attached at this time. Bewkes also announced that a movie focused on DC Comics’ Aquaman will bow in 2018 with Jason Momoa set to star.
“The Flash” story revolves around Barry Allen, a scientist who awakes from a coma and is gifted with the power of super speed. Allen is a part of the Justice League and it is expected that Miller will have some sort of cameo in the upcoming pic “Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice” where that team is likely to be unveiled.
Warner Bros. also announced several other films scheduled to bow in the next several years including a “Wonder Woman” movie slated for 2017 and “Justice League: Part 2″ in 2019.
Grant Gustin stars as the Scarlet Speedster in the recently-launched CW “Flash” series, which set ratings records for the network in last week’s debut.
Miller was most recently seen in “Madame Bovary.” He is repped by Paradigm.
October 15, 2014 | 09:19AM PT Justin Kroll
Hot on the heels of DC Comics icon “The Flash’s” small-screen success on The CW, Warner Bros. has confirmed that a standalone “Flash” movie is coming in 2018. The film will be unaffiliated with The CW series and will feature a new actor in the role: Ezra Miller.
During the Time Warner earnings meeting Warner Bros. Chairman and CEO Kevin Tsujihara announced “The Flash” would bow in 2018.
No writer or director are attached at this time. Bewkes also announced that a movie focused on DC Comics’ Aquaman will bow in 2018 with Jason Momoa set to star.
“The Flash” story revolves around Barry Allen, a scientist who awakes from a coma and is gifted with the power of super speed. Allen is a part of the Justice League and it is expected that Miller will have some sort of cameo in the upcoming pic “Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice” where that team is likely to be unveiled.
Warner Bros. also announced several other films scheduled to bow in the next several years including a “Wonder Woman” movie slated for 2017 and “Justice League: Part 2″ in 2019.
Grant Gustin stars as the Scarlet Speedster in the recently-launched CW “Flash” series, which set ratings records for the network in last week’s debut.
Miller was most recently seen in “Madame Bovary.” He is repped by Paradigm.
10-15-14, 12:43 PM
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WB just said that the schedule does not include the upcoming solo Batman & Superman films, so there's even more.
I wonder if they could be filming all this shit at once like Lord of the Rings and just release the films whenever.
I wonder if they could be filming all this shit at once like Lord of the Rings and just release the films whenever.
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10-15-14, 01:26 PM
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I don't have much hope for the DC Cinematic Universe. They seem to be casting people for their looks more than their acting range
10-15-14, 01:39 PM
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Well, we got the Wonder Woman announcement that everyone's been bitching about.
10-15-14, 01:41 PM
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Yup WW announced before Marvel announces a female lead.
Aquaman announced and Namor has never been mentioned on the Marvel side.
And I bet Suicide Squad is released before Sinister Six.
Aquaman announced and Namor has never been mentioned on the Marvel side.
And I bet Suicide Squad is released before Sinister Six.
