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Old 09-03-14, 12:28 PM
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Emma Watson as Batgirl. I feel creepy just typing that but I want it made.
You feel creepy? I just thought of Emma Watson in a The Killing Joke adaptation where Joker shoots her through the spine, then strips her naked, and photographs her.
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Great choice. Beyond the physical, he's got a great voice. Really interested in how they do the big cheese with Batson. That dynamic can be very refreshing and unique.
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Really interested in how they do the big cheese with Batson.
Personally, I hope Billy Batson gets very minimal screen time. Nothing ruins a movie more than a punk ass kid sideplot. Iron Man 3 gets a bad rap, but the only thing I truly disliked about the movie was that stupid sideplot with the kid.
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That's why I put that last sentence.

Personally I've never cared much for Batson, the kid. But there are great moments sometimes where the split is really well done. You're going to need a good chunk of Batson no matter what. He's still a kid. I actually liked Batson in his New 52 origins. As the human character, it seemed well done and very true for the modern.

If they can find a great actor in a kid, even better. I'm actually really interested in how child actors, within like the past 15 years, have actually become their own people in the craft. The number of quality kid actors has grown and some are very interesting to see in creating their talent.

For the most part, children in the visual media is a breathing prop at best. So it's great to see somebody like Breslin, the Fannings, Radcliffe, and etc be actual creative members in the craft.
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They've re-made Billy Batson to be a punk kid with an attitude these days. I'm more interested in what they do with Mary Marvel and Captain Marvel, Jr. as part of the Shazam film.
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Cant wait for this! I've always loved the Captain Marvel(Shazam) character, and The Rock has Black Adam is perfect casting. Not sure who to get for Cap yet even though the first thought I had was someone like Taylor Kitsch.
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Don't they have to get someone with at least the same size/muscular build as the Rock? Or is Black Adam going to tower over Captain Marvel?

CM Jr. and Mary should be much easier to cast, if they go that route for the first movie. I really hope we don't see the new 52 entire orphanage of Shazams, though.
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Originally Posted by fujishig View Post
Don't they have to get someone with at least the same size/muscular build as the Rock? Or is Black Adam going to tower over Captain Marvel?

CM Jr. and Mary should be much easier to cast, if they go that route for the first movie. I really hope we don't see the new 52 entire orphanage of Shazams, though.
Having the villain be much more intimidating looking than the hero usually isn't a bad thing.
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Kind of depends. From what I've grown up with it always seemed like CM was bigger than Adam. That didn't stop Adam from being an ass kicker of CM. at times they were visually equals in size. Or even Adam bigger.

The Rock's size is fine. It will be interesting who they cast against him.
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Not a fan of the New52 Billy/Shazam characterizations - A jerky kid becomes a jerky superhero. But then, I was never a fan of what DC did to Captain Marvel after the original Crisis either. From the 40s to the 80s, whenever Billy said "Shazam!," Captain Marvel took over and had his own personality. After the Crisis, Captain Marvel just became a kid in a grown-up body. I remember Roy Thomas rationalizing this decision in the "Shazam!: A New Beginning" mini-series in '86. But for me, some of the Captain's magic died that year.
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The Rock's size is fine. It will be interesting who they cast against him.




It's too bad Cena is such a stiff when it comes to acting...
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I haven't been a fan of it since like 1999, was 13, but every once in a while I catch it on a treadmill or something. I know Cena is popular but how good of a rassler is he?

I stopped watching it after my father passed. It was our thing but it didn't feel right anymore. Saying that... I still liked it but I enjoyed it more before it got "grittier" or whatnot in like 94 or 95. I dunno.

Is wrestling as popular as it was in the early 1990s as I remember from how much exposure it got into the mainstream?
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I haven't been a fan of it since like 1999, was 13, but every once in a while I catch it on a treadmill or something. I know Cena is popular but how good of a rassler is he?

I stopped watching it after my father passed. It was our thing but it didn't feel right anymore. Saying that... I still liked it but I enjoyed it more before it got "grittier" or whatnot in like 94 or 95. I dunno.

Is wrestling as popular as it was in the early 1990s as I remember from how much exposure it got into the mainstream?
Wrestling is at it's lowest point ever in my eyes.
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C'mon, don't discount the Doink the Clown years.

I thought of suggesting Cena when I first responded about needing someone the Rock's size.

For some reason I had completely forgotten that Captain Marvel had a different personality than Batson, I always though Batson just matured when he got all the powers, which included wisdom among other traits. That makes it even more like Marvel's original Captain Marvel, where Rick Jones basically just traded places with Marvell... was that intentional?

In the original, what was so special about Billy that he was chosen to get the power, if he didn't even have control anyway?
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93-95 WWF was bad, but yea, it's much much worse right now. Evil Doink was pretty entertaining.
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I think it was a necessary move after Alan Moore took the concept to its logical limits in Miracleman. DC was almost certainly responding to those ideas when they had Billy keep his personality in Marvel's body.

Read this treatment that Alan Moore turned into DC, which heavily involved Captain Marvel for a planned Elseworlds story. They passed on it in the 1980s thinking it was too dark but one can tell many elements were later incorporated into Kingdom Come.

http://fourcolorheroes.home.insightb...lightfree.html
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This is really off topic now, but his write up of Crisis is spot on, and mirrors what happened to me when they rebooted again in the new 52 (and also an excellent point about the Donner Superman movies):

I believe this is dangerous for a couple of reasons. Firstly, by establishing the precedent of altering time, you are establishing an unconscious context for all stories that take place in the future, as well as for those which took place (or rather didn't take place) in the past. The readers of long standing, somewhere along the line, are going to have some slight feeling that all the stories that they followed avidly during their years of
involvement with the book have been in some way invalidated, that all those countless plotlines weren't leading to anything more than what is in some respects an arbitrary cut-off point.
By extension, the readers of today might well be left with the sensation that the stories they are currently reading are of less significance or moment because, after all, at some point ten years in the future some comic book omnipotent, be it an editor or the Spectre, can go back in time and erase the whole slate, ready to start again. I myself felt something similar at the end of the first Superman film, when he turns time back to save Lois. It ruined the small but genuine enjoyment that I'd got from that first movie and destroyed all credibility for any of the following sequels as far as I was concerned.
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This is really off topic now, but his write up of Crisis is spot on, and mirrors what happened to me when they rebooted again in the new 52 (and also an excellent point about the Donner Superman movies):
Continuity is a tricky subject. Just looking at Batman alone, the main Batman title had over 700 issues before the New 52 reboot. The Detective Comics title had over 800. You're looking at over 1,500 comics just from those two alone. That's not even counting all the other Batman spinoff titles such as Legends of the Dark Knight and Shadow of the Bat. Plus other Batfamily members such as Robin, Nightwing, and Batgirl have their own titles. The entire "Batverse" from 1939 to 2014 is thousands and thousands of comics. And that's just Batman. Not even counting Superman, Wonder Woman, or any other characters here.

There's no way you can keep all of that in continuity. You can't expect readers to read thousands of issues of backstory and be that well versed in Batman history just to read modern comics. (Even though Grant Morrison may have tried with his run on Batman.) So some of it HAS to be cleaned up to be accessible to new readers.
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake View Post
The Rock's size is fine. It will be interesting who they cast against him.


Joe Manganiello could reenter the superhero conversation.
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Brandon Molale has wanted the role for years

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Don't know who that is but....Wow! Not bad.

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Is Benedict Cumberbatch going to play Martial Manhunter or a villain in BvSOJ?

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Bened...es-67034.html/
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Is Benedict Cumberbatch going to play Martial Manhunter or a villain in BvSOJ?

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Bened...es-67034.html/
They're not going to have both Martian Manhunter and Cyborg in the Justice League, and Cyborg has already been cast.

I could see Cumberbatch as Brainiac. He plays smart guys well. (Khan in Star Trek and Sherlock Holmes.)
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Originally Posted by fujishig View Post
This is really off topic now, but his write up of Crisis is spot on, and mirrors what happened to me when they rebooted again in the new 52 (and also an excellent point about the Donner Superman movies):
I think comic book companies realize it pisses off long-term fans, which is why they switched over as quickly as possible to minimize the damage and outrage.
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I think the notions put forward by Alan Moore translate very well to what the movie companies are doing with their licenses. Marvel are building a mythology and ensuring that threads between characters link successfully and that this continues throughout their future productions. DC/WB seems to be handling this less well. They are rebooting Batman for the third time in 17 years and Superman for the second time in less than 10 years. I think the more characters are rebooted, repeated or rehashed the less inclined audiences are to embrace them. We see this with a character like Spiderman. I hope DC has a more solid game plan going forward, but i think throwing all their main characters into the boiling pot at the same time is not the best of first steps.

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