Pacific Rim: Uprising (2018, D: DeKnight) S: Boyega
03-20-14, 10:57 AM
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Legendary Pictures CEO and Producer Thomas Tull:
Read more at http://collider.com/godzilla-thomas-...bI8RgZSwoLy.99
Read more at http://collider.com/godzilla-thomas-...bI8RgZSwoLy.99
At least they're open to the idea.
damn.
03-20-14, 11:56 AM
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It did north of 400 million dollars
globally and both the home video sales and the
merchandise have way over-indexed, so it
seems like fans really loved the world.
globally and both the home video sales and the
merchandise have way over-indexed, so it
seems like fans really loved the world.
03-20-14, 02:35 PM
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Hoping a sequel does happen, but I could do without the Ron Pearlman character or the 2 dopey scientists in it.
03-20-14, 02:40 PM
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Yeah just give Idris Elba a bigger role... oh wait. 
03-20-14, 02:58 PM
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Liked the first one a lot, but I hope in a sequel we'd get more big scenes in daylight.
03-20-14, 03:20 PM
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Tull may be a movie/comic-book fan, but he's definitely a film producer, by claiming that Pacific Rim did better than every film when accounting for international box office. (It was crushed domestically by all of his examples, with lower standard ticket prices and no 3D premiums attached.)
2001 - The Fast and the Furious: $144.5 Domestic (Avg Ticket $5.66); $62.7 International ($207 WW) - I'm thinking franchise wise, this crushes any potential franchise of Pacific Rim.
2005 - Batman Begins: $206.8 Domestic (Avg Ticket $6.41); $167.3 International ($374 WW)
2006 - Superman Returns: $200.0 Domestic (Avg Ticket $6.55); $191.0 International ($391 WW)
2009 - Star Trek: $257.7 Domestic (Avg Ticket $7.50); $127.9 International ($385 WW)
2013 - Pacific Rim: $101.8 (Avg Ticket $8.13); $309.2 International ($411 WW)
Ticket prices per: Box Office Mojo Price Adjustments
It's all spin, and that's if you just factor in ticket prices... That's not even going into the bloated budget and marketing of Pacific Rim.
It'll be near to impossible to get a sequel to Pacific Rim. WB was unhappy with the whole process (thus the end of Legendary's distribution deal), and their new distribution partner, Universal, has already been burned by a sequel to a Del Toro cult hit... Hellboy 2.
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2001 - The Fast and the Furious: $144.5 Domestic (Avg Ticket $5.66); $62.7 International ($207 WW) - I'm thinking franchise wise, this crushes any potential franchise of Pacific Rim.
2005 - Batman Begins: $206.8 Domestic (Avg Ticket $6.41); $167.3 International ($374 WW)
2006 - Superman Returns: $200.0 Domestic (Avg Ticket $6.55); $191.0 International ($391 WW)
2009 - Star Trek: $257.7 Domestic (Avg Ticket $7.50); $127.9 International ($385 WW)
2013 - Pacific Rim: $101.8 (Avg Ticket $8.13); $309.2 International ($411 WW)
Ticket prices per: Box Office Mojo Price Adjustments
It's all spin, and that's if you just factor in ticket prices... That's not even going into the bloated budget and marketing of Pacific Rim.
It'll be near to impossible to get a sequel to Pacific Rim. WB was unhappy with the whole process (thus the end of Legendary's distribution deal), and their new distribution partner, Universal, has already been burned by a sequel to a Del Toro cult hit... Hellboy 2.
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03-20-14, 06:02 PM
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Tull may be a movie/comic-book fan, but he's definitely a film producer, by claiming that Pacific Rim did better than every film when accounting for international box office. (It was crushed domestically by all of his examples, with lower standard ticket prices and no 3D premiums attached.)
2001 - The Fast and the Furious: $144.5 Domestic (Avg Ticket $5.66); $62.7 International ($207 WW) - I'm thinking franchise wise, this crushes any potential franchise of Pacific Rim.
2005 - Batman Begins: $206.8 Domestic (Avg Ticket $6.41); $167.3 International ($374 WW)
2006 - Superman Returns: $200.0 Domestic (Avg Ticket $6.55); $191.0 International ($391 WW)
2009 - Star Trek: $257.7 Domestic (Avg Ticket $7.50); $127.9 International ($385 WW)
2013 - Pacific Rim: $101.8 (Avg Ticket $8.13); $309.2 International ($411 WW)
Ticket prices per: Box Office Mojo Price Adjustments
It's all spin, and that's if you just factor in ticket prices... That's not even going into the bloated budget and marketing of Pacific Rim.
It'll be near to impossible to get a sequel to Pacific Rim. WB was unhappy with the whole process (thus the end of Legendary's distribution deal), and their new distribution partner, Universal, has already been burned by a sequel to a Del Toro cult hit... Hellboy 2.
fitprod
2001 - The Fast and the Furious: $144.5 Domestic (Avg Ticket $5.66); $62.7 International ($207 WW) - I'm thinking franchise wise, this crushes any potential franchise of Pacific Rim.
2005 - Batman Begins: $206.8 Domestic (Avg Ticket $6.41); $167.3 International ($374 WW)
2006 - Superman Returns: $200.0 Domestic (Avg Ticket $6.55); $191.0 International ($391 WW)
2009 - Star Trek: $257.7 Domestic (Avg Ticket $7.50); $127.9 International ($385 WW)
2013 - Pacific Rim: $101.8 (Avg Ticket $8.13); $309.2 International ($411 WW)
Ticket prices per: Box Office Mojo Price Adjustments
It's all spin, and that's if you just factor in ticket prices... That's not even going into the bloated budget and marketing of Pacific Rim.
It'll be near to impossible to get a sequel to Pacific Rim. WB was unhappy with the whole process (thus the end of Legendary's distribution deal), and their new distribution partner, Universal, has already been burned by a sequel to a Del Toro cult hit... Hellboy 2.
fitprod
But PR did do better than all of them once worldwide was factored in to the equation. You make it seem like domestic grosses are all that matters when determining if a movie is a hit. American audiences are not the only audience that counts.
03-20-14, 06:39 PM
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Just make the 15 minute pre-title sequence about Elba and some strange Kaiju he encountered via a portal that was not the rift we saw in the first movie. Then have that play out in the film proper with a bonus flashback (or two) that features Elba once again.
03-21-14, 01:39 AM
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The actual attendance has to be factored in as well, which Pacific Rim is nowhere close, domestically or internationally. Bloated ticket prices really skew actual attendance of films.
WB got all of the international distribution fees, which ultimately is only 25% to 30% of the international grosses. Want an example of how little it is? China was $111 million, more than 1/3 of the international gross, and WB will only get $27.5 Million (By government rules). Doesn't sound like chump change, but when you've probably spent at least $10 to $15 million in marketing in the area, it's a failure.
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03-21-14, 08:49 AM
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But not when you factor in the bloated budget and marketing. (Estimated between $250 and $300 million, with marketing, which blows away all of the films referenced excluding Superman Returns)
The actual attendance has to be factored in as well, which Pacific Rim is nowhere close, domestically or internationally. Bloated ticket prices really skew actual attendance of films.
WB got all of the international distribution fees, which ultimately is only 25% to 30% of the international grosses. Want an example of how little it is? China was $111 million, more than 1/3 of the international gross, and WB will only get $27.5 Million (By government rules). Doesn't sound like chump change, but when you've probably spent at least $10 to $15 million in marketing in the area, it's a failure.
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The actual attendance has to be factored in as well, which Pacific Rim is nowhere close, domestically or internationally. Bloated ticket prices really skew actual attendance of films.
WB got all of the international distribution fees, which ultimately is only 25% to 30% of the international grosses. Want an example of how little it is? China was $111 million, more than 1/3 of the international gross, and WB will only get $27.5 Million (By government rules). Doesn't sound like chump change, but when you've probably spent at least $10 to $15 million in marketing in the area, it's a failure.
fitprod
03-21-14, 09:48 AM
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Wouldn't that depend on the film? I've seen some pretty aggressive marketing campaigns, and doesn't that tie into all of the merchandising as well? You can't look left of right without seeing some Minions.
03-21-14, 11:08 AM
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I don't recall PR having that aggressive a marketing campaign. In fact, I remember a lot of us wondering why there weren't that many spots for it in the two weeks leading up to its release.
03-21-14, 11:14 AM
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Depends on the project but no way are they spending the budget of the film on the marketing budget. That's a myth in Hollywood.
05-29-14, 04:26 AM
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I seem to be of the minority who didn't enjoy Pacific Rim. Which almost kills me as I absolutely adore Guillermo del Toro, and have enjoyed every single movie of his I have watched. Do we need a Pacific Rim 2? Heck no, I don't want to be disappointed a second time!
05-29-14, 09:32 AM
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I like del Toro visuals more than del Toro full movies, which always seem to underwhelm me. Pacific Rim was an okay one time watch, but I tried to watch it again a week or so ago and was just bored by it. The overall corniness and cheese factor (with both the characters and robots) work well as a sort of massive B-movie, but it just isn't something that holds replay value, imo.
05-30-14, 04:29 AM
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Just about everything!
As I said I really wanted to like this one, and it did look very pretty, BUT...
I thought it was just one big build-up to a fight between a monster and robot, which is not really a bad thing, but in this case the build-up was terrible, packed with clichés and nothing I could connect to. I was really, really bored.
Usually Guillermo has you rooting for almost every character, each one has something, but I didn't care for any of the characters, although I did worry that the dog might die. I guess that's something?
I think I was expecting a Guillermo del Toro movie, and instead got a Michael Bay one.
As I said I really wanted to like this one, and it did look very pretty, BUT...
I thought it was just one big build-up to a fight between a monster and robot, which is not really a bad thing, but in this case the build-up was terrible, packed with clichés and nothing I could connect to. I was really, really bored.
Usually Guillermo has you rooting for almost every character, each one has something, but I didn't care for any of the characters, although I did worry that the dog might die. I guess that's something?
I think I was expecting a Guillermo del Toro movie, and instead got a Michael Bay one.
05-30-14, 04:37 AM
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Well if they make a Pacific Rim 2 you won't be disappointed since you won't have much anticipation for it.
I like del Toro visuals more than del Toro full movies, which always seem to underwhelm me. Pacific Rim was an okay one time watch, but I tried to watch it again a week or so ago and was just bored by it. The overall corniness and cheese factor (with both the characters and robots) work well as a sort of massive B-movie, but it just isn't something that holds replay value, imo.
I like del Toro visuals more than del Toro full movies, which always seem to underwhelm me. Pacific Rim was an okay one time watch, but I tried to watch it again a week or so ago and was just bored by it. The overall corniness and cheese factor (with both the characters and robots) work well as a sort of massive B-movie, but it just isn't something that holds replay value, imo.
06-08-14, 04:43 PM
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AUSTIN — Director Guillermo del Toro is currently working on a script for a sequel to his 2013 international hit Pacific Rim.
While promoting his new FX series The Strain at the Austin Television Festival, del Toro told BuzzFeed that he and screenwriter Zak Penn (X-Men: The Last Stand, The Incredible Hulk) have started work on a screenplay for Pacific Rim 2.
“I’m working very, very hard with Zak Penn,” he told BuzzFeed. “We’ve been working for a few months now in secret. We found a way to twist it around. Travis Beacham [co-writer of the first film, now working on Fox’s Hieroglyph] was involved in the storyline and now I’m writing with Zak because Travis has become a TV mogul.”
While the filmmaker stressed that Legendary Pictures has not formally agreed to put the script into production, he said that he and Penn are working on it as if it will be made one day.
“I don’t have the money, but I’m proceeding like it is happening,” he said with a laugh, adding that he hopes to tackle the sequel after producing his next project.
Del Toro also revealed that the script, as it stands now, includes the characters Raleigh Becket (Charlie Hunnam) and Mako Mori (Rinko Kikuchi) — and the story will follow the events of the first movie.
“Some people were wondering if we were going to do the prequel. I was never interested in doing that first wave of invasion,” del Toro said. “I’m going for very new, very crazy ideas on the second one, which are very different from the first one — but you will get really great spectacle.”
While Pacific Rim was a very modest hit in the U.S., grossing $101.8 million domestically, it was a sensation overseas, pulling in $309.2 million internationally (including $111.9 million in China alone). Legendary Pictures Chief Thomas Tull recently told the website I Am Rogue that his production company would only make Pacific Rim 2 “if we can crack the story [and] we all think it’s great,” and if del Toro is on board to direct it.
A rep for Legendary did not immediately have comment for this story.
Along with executive producing The Strain (as well as directing several episodes), del Toro is also directing Legendary’s horror film Crimson Peak with Mia Wasikowska, Tom Hiddleston, Jessica Chastain, and Hunnam, which is currently in post-production. He is also producing the animated feature The Book of Life for 20th Century Fox.
While promoting his new FX series The Strain at the Austin Television Festival, del Toro told BuzzFeed that he and screenwriter Zak Penn (X-Men: The Last Stand, The Incredible Hulk) have started work on a screenplay for Pacific Rim 2.
“I’m working very, very hard with Zak Penn,” he told BuzzFeed. “We’ve been working for a few months now in secret. We found a way to twist it around. Travis Beacham [co-writer of the first film, now working on Fox’s Hieroglyph] was involved in the storyline and now I’m writing with Zak because Travis has become a TV mogul.”
While the filmmaker stressed that Legendary Pictures has not formally agreed to put the script into production, he said that he and Penn are working on it as if it will be made one day.
“I don’t have the money, but I’m proceeding like it is happening,” he said with a laugh, adding that he hopes to tackle the sequel after producing his next project.
Del Toro also revealed that the script, as it stands now, includes the characters Raleigh Becket (Charlie Hunnam) and Mako Mori (Rinko Kikuchi) — and the story will follow the events of the first movie.
“Some people were wondering if we were going to do the prequel. I was never interested in doing that first wave of invasion,” del Toro said. “I’m going for very new, very crazy ideas on the second one, which are very different from the first one — but you will get really great spectacle.”
While Pacific Rim was a very modest hit in the U.S., grossing $101.8 million domestically, it was a sensation overseas, pulling in $309.2 million internationally (including $111.9 million in China alone). Legendary Pictures Chief Thomas Tull recently told the website I Am Rogue that his production company would only make Pacific Rim 2 “if we can crack the story [and] we all think it’s great,” and if del Toro is on board to direct it.
A rep for Legendary did not immediately have comment for this story.
Along with executive producing The Strain (as well as directing several episodes), del Toro is also directing Legendary’s horror film Crimson Peak with Mia Wasikowska, Tom Hiddleston, Jessica Chastain, and Hunnam, which is currently in post-production. He is also producing the animated feature The Book of Life for 20th Century Fox.
06-08-14, 04:49 PM
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Pacific Rim 2 is about as likely as a Dredd 2...in other words, not very. Although they could go the low-budget direct-to-video route on either of those with a different (i.e., cheaper) cast.