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Old 02-27-13 | 01:16 PM
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Re: What changes would you make to a movie?

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
I would have ended THE DARK KNIGHT RISES without showing Bruce Wayne...just Alfred looking up and smiling.
That's how I wanted it to play out as well.
Old 02-27-13 | 01:23 PM
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Re: What changes would you make to a movie?

Originally Posted by brayzie
I'm a big Batman fan too but I found it hard to believe that Batman could ever leave Gotham behind. That's the contrast between terrorists like Bane and Talia who would die to punish/murder hundreds of thousands and Batman who is willing to die to save even one life.
The whole idea of the film is that Batman is just a symbol and that any man with the drive to do good and make a difference can be him. That's why he left the instructions to the Batcave for Blake to find so that in the case Batman was ever needed he could take the mantle over. It might not be something that comic book Bruce Wayne would do but for this particular version of Batman I thought it worked well. In some respects I view this Batman more like an elseworld's version.
Old 02-27-13 | 01:45 PM
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The whole idea of the film is that Batman is just a symbol and that any man with the drive to do good and make a difference can be him. That's why he left the instructions to the Batcave for Blake to find so that in the case Batman was ever needed he could take the mantle over. It might not be something that comic book Bruce Wayne would do but for this particular version of Batman I thought it worked well. In some respects I view this Batman more like an elseworld's version.
I get passing the torch to a more able bodied man. But, if Bruce was still alive (even the Bruce Wayne of the Nolanverse), he would have taken on a mentor role to John Blake, similar to the role of old Bruce Wayne as mentor to Terry McGinnis in Batman Beyond.

So, yeah, Bruce should have either died or taken on the Alfred role (who himself should have been killed by Bane, to make Bruce suffer even more) after Blake inherited the cave.
Old 02-27-13 | 01:59 PM
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I hope Wayne bequeathed him money or something, because the way Batman destroys equipment...the existing supplies alone would only last so long.
Old 02-27-13 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
I get passing the torch to a more able bodied man. But, if Bruce was still alive (even the Bruce Wayne of the Nolanverse), he would have taken on a mentor role to John Blake, similar to the role of old Bruce Wayne as mentor to Terry McGinnis in Batman Beyond.

So, yeah, Bruce should have either died or taken on the Alfred role (who himself should have been killed by Bane, to make Bruce suffer even more) after Blake inherited the cave.
I can see that I guess but in all honesty it didn't bother me that much. For all we know maybe he did leave instructions on how Blake is able to contact himself or possibly Alfred or Lucius if need be. I'm guessing there was more left behind than what we saw just because it wasn't necessarily shown. I would think Bruce left him instructions of some sort other than just how to get to the Batcave.
Old 02-27-13 | 04:05 PM
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The whole idea of the film is that Batman is just a symbol and that any man with the drive to do good and make a difference can be him. That's why he left the instructions to the Batcave for Blake to find so that in the case Batman was ever needed he could take the mantle over. It might not be something that comic book Bruce Wayne would do but for this particular version of Batman I thought it worked well. In some respects I view this Batman more like an elseworld's version.
I think much of Ra's teachings were flawed and I would have liked to see Bruce Wayne come full circle with how much of it was wrong.

Batman became a symbol, but only to be replaced by another symbol, one that was so sacred they couldn't reveal the truth about him for fear that it would shatter the public's trust, as well as releasing all the criminals back to the streets. Batman and Gordon engaged in a cover, up, instead of trusting the citizens, which allowed people like Bane and Talia to exploit this corruption for their own ambitions. That's the problem when people put all their faith in one person/one symbol/belief to solve all the problems instead of looking to themselves to help make a difference.
Old 02-27-13 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mattflix
I hope Wayne bequeathed him money or something, because the way Batman destroys equipment...the existing supplies alone would only last so long.
And the fact that JGL would need different size equipment, and years of training.
Old 02-27-13 | 05:20 PM
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And the fact that JGL would need different size equipment, and years of training.
By all means the film isn't perfect but it's things like this I think people look too much into. The film ended and didn't give us a real idea of what would happen next. We're just left to make some assumptions. For all we know maybe Blake does train after the film ends. Also I would think with the stockpile of equipment Lucius had he'd be able to equip him or at least help him start.
Old 02-27-13 | 05:42 PM
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Re: What changes would you make to a movie?

Originally Posted by TallGuyMe
I would recast Chris Tucker out of The Fifth Element. He completely ruins that movie for me.
Agreed. He was the Jar Jar of that movie (which was before we even knew what a Jar Jar was).
Old 02-27-13 | 05:50 PM
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Chris Tucker is the reason I went from liking The 5th Element to loathing it. Not even Jar Jar ruins a movie like that character.

Once while I was watching Attack of the Clones, I started mentally removing every time Hayden Christensen said "m'lady". It drastically improved the dialogue.

If someone gave me 100 grand and a red pen, I could have fixed those prequels.
Old 02-27-13 | 05:53 PM
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Old 02-27-13 | 06:13 PM
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Re: What changes would you make to a movie?

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I agree. There's no sacrifice if he survived. They want to have their cake and eat it too.
Much disagreement to be had. The sacrifice still counts. I don't believe that the robot knew that he would come back at the end. Nor did any of the humans think he would come back at the end.
Old 02-27-13 | 06:50 PM
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Re: What changes would you make to a movie?

I'll take a crack at one of my Top 10 All-Timers : I love just about everything about Almost Famous (referring to the Untitled Bootleg Cut of course -- the version that has more time to breathe and ends up being a lot more poignant to Penny; if that was the version released, Kate Hudson would have won that Oscar). There's just one thing I wish I could haves changed : I wish to God they hadn't cast Jimmy Fallon as the big-time manager. I'm not even filled with hate for the guy the way so many are in this forum, but he was so wrong and distracting in the role. When he broke out the Mick Jagger moves & gag about him not prancing around when he's fifty, it felt like such a self-aware joke -- totally different in theme to everything else in the movie. I don't mind the idea of casting a comedian in that role, just not him. Imagine for a moment if Ben Stiller was cast instead and he played a version similar to his character in Reality Bites. He could have brought the slickness and snarkiness to that role without it being jokey. When he delivered the line about hitting a man and driving away without knowing if he was alive or dead, it wouldn't have felt like an SNL sketch. Simple change and it would fix the only glaring flaw in the film.
Old 02-27-13 | 07:00 PM
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Re: What changes would you make to a movie?

I would get $5B together and force Peter Jackson to film and splice every moment of The Middle Earth books into one 50 hour movie.
Old 02-27-13 | 07:36 PM
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Re: What changes would you make to a movie?

^Didn't you already see The Hobbit?
Old 02-27-13 | 09:09 PM
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Re: What changes would you make to a movie?

Mark me down with the "Chris Tucker was perfectly cast for Fifth Element" camp. The part was supposed to be obnoxious, annoying and over the top. Tucker succeeded with flying colors.
Old 02-27-13 | 09:45 PM
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Re: What changes would you make to a movie?

Originally Posted by Spottedfeather
Much disagreement to be had. The sacrifice still counts. I don't believe that the robot knew that he would come back at the end. Nor did any of the humans think he would come back at the end.
Doesn't matter. They had a perfect ending and mucked it up by making it too family friendly.
Old 02-27-13 | 10:59 PM
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Mark me down with the "Chris Tucker was perfectly cast for Fifth Element" camp. The part was supposed to be obnoxious, annoying and over the top. Tucker succeeded with flying colors.
Add me to this list as well. It was an inspired casting choice and Tucker absolutely nailed it.
Old 02-27-13 | 11:25 PM
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I'll take a crack at one of my Top 10 All-Timers : I love just about everything about Almost Famous
Your post reminded me of the one thing I can't stand about the otherwise perfect Almost Famous. I loath the "gag" near the end when they think the plane is going down and the one guy blurts out "Fuck it, I'm gay" only to have (ho-ho) the plane not going down after all, and then the guys is looking around all embarrassed because (hee-haw) he admitted he was gay for no reason! Ha ha, what a dope!

Christ, that part is an embarrassment.
Old 02-28-13 | 12:18 AM
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Mark me down with the "Chris Tucker was perfectly cast for Fifth Element" camp. The part was supposed to be obnoxious, annoying and over the top. Tucker succeeded with flying colors.
But I don't like obnoxious, annoying and over the top characters. Especially when the movie was already skating on thin ice with regards to the tone. When he came on I just said fuck it, this movie is duuuuumb.
Old 02-28-13 | 08:14 AM
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Add me to this list as well. It was an inspired casting choice and Tucker absolutely nailed it.
I'll back Tucker as well. I'll admit that the first time I saw the movie, Tucker grained on me, but on subsequent viewings he fits in fine. After the "gimme the cashhhhhh" scene, anything goes.
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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen
Your post reminded me of the one thing I can't stand about the otherwise perfect Almost Famous. I loath the "gag" near the end when they think the plane is going down and the one guy blurts out "Fuck it, I'm gay" only to have (ho-ho) the plane not going down after all, and then the guys is looking around all embarrassed because (hee-haw) he admitted he was gay for no reason! Ha ha, what a dope!

Christ, that part is an embarrassment.
What's so bad about that? Outing yourself to your best friends when you had no plans to because you think you're going to die would be pretty damn shitty.

And yeah the Fifth Element is goofy as Hell from the get go. Chris Tucker isn't even the dumbest part of the movie. That said, I've always liked it and Tucker fits perfectly with the rest of the movie.
Old 02-28-13 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike86
I can see that I guess but in all honesty it didn't bother me that much. For all we know maybe he did leave instructions on how Blake is able to contact himself or possibly Alfred or Lucius if need be. I'm guessing there was more left behind than what we saw just because it wasn't necessarily shown. I would think Bruce left him instructions of some sort other than just how to get to the Batcave.
I'm sure Bruce left Blake all sorts of instructions. Bruce did repair the Bat Signal and intentionally did not cover his tracks regrading the fact that the autopilot was fixed. Bruce definitely spelled out to everyone that he's still alive and that there is still a Batman. I just don't buy that he retired. Bruce's role can (and should, given his deteriorating physical condition) diminish but I have a hard time accepting that he packed up and left Gotham for good. Dying on the job (and not simply faking his death) is the only believable way out for Bruce Wayne.
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What the flying fuck is wrong with you people? Tucker was one of the best parts for that The Fifth Element. I don't like those type of characters but goddamn was that character perfect for the film.
Old 02-28-13 | 10:43 AM
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And yeah the Fifth Element is goofy as Hell from the get go. Chris Tucker isn't even the dumbest part of the movie. That said, I've always liked it and Tucker fits perfectly with the rest of the movie.


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