I'll second that Tucker worked better in Fifth Element with subsequent viewings. A lot had less to do with the character and more with my lack of familiarity as to who he(Tucker the actor) was when I first saw it. Given the movie's over-the-top Heavy Metal type atmosphere, he fit quite well. In fact, many J6P types only like the movie because of him. Take that FWIW.

More changes I would make, to movies: take out all of the non-Hobbit stuff in the movie. The movie worked quite well when it stuck to that story IMO. I'm not saying I felt the added stuff was total crap, but it didn't add anything IMO. I probably dislike the whole aspect of Azog and his war party chasing them more than the attempts to tie-in to LOTR. I have always felt that Smaug was Thorin and Co.s ' greatest adversary, this makes it obvious he won't be in this version and will be mostly secondary.

Die Hard - Karl should've stayed dead, it still makes my eyes roll when he pops back up at the end.

Not sure I agree with this.

Jackson should not have made 3 movies out of this. In order to do that, so much filler is needed that he had to have Azog play a major role just so he could fill up the running time. Azog is barely even in the book.

I think Smaug will definitely play a major role. Giving Azog more of a role will just give Thorin a major adversary during the Battle of the Five Armies.



In the movie version I'm sure the actual Battle of the Five Armies will get a lot of screentime and Azog will play a major role in the battle even though



Smaug is still the main antagonist, but Azog will just be around as a secondary antagonist.

Argyle, Karl coming back, and the FBI agents. Take that out and Die Hard would've so much better.

Does that include Deputy Dwayne P. Robinson?

WTF ever with all of this Chris Tucker love.

Tucker was obnoxious in the movie, and it was by design and is funny. He's the opposite of Billy Crystal, whose obnoxious by accident, and isn't funny.

Count me in as another fanboy who believes that:

Anakin should never have been revealed as the creator of C-3PO.

Threepio could have just been some random droid found in Watto's shop - with no backstory.


By doing this, Lucas painted himself into a corner and made the Star Wars universe even smaller.

The FBI was the key to Gruber's plan though.

I've got no problem with that at all. Yes, it's a little dated to do an "I'm gay" joke now, but we're way more sensitive than we were a decade ago. In this scene, everyone on that plane is making confessions and saying things they'd never otherwise say thinking they were about to die. In the moment of all this emotional unloading, the drummer (who barely speaks in the film to that point) drops what might be the biggest bombshell to his bandmates and it leads to some awkwardness. That's fine, expecially in the context of a comedy, which this film is. As I said it's Fallon's half-heated delivery of his line that makes it feel like an SNL sketch. That and the unfortunate coincidence that Seinfeld used almost the exact same scene in their widely-seen and widely-loathed finale (which was shot after this scene was filmed, but aired before the movie came out).

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I think we are kind of arguing for the same point. I'm saying that the presence of Azog was unnecessary and made the movie bloated. You're saying Azog had to be in there to add to the extra time because PJ chose to make this a trilogy. Conclusion : PJ shouldn't have made this a trilogy.

Agreed.

You're right. Now that I think about it my long winded argument was pretty much what you said anyway. Azog shouldn't be in it but since PJ decided to bloat the hell out of this thing, he pretty much has to be. I guess since what's done is done, I'm fine with Azog's movie role but I think The Hobbit could easily have been one 2.5-3 hour movie and if that were the case there wouldn't be any room for him.

I actually just finished reading The Hobbit and Tolkien bloated it too. The book probably could have been reduced to about a 50 page short story. I'm not knocking Tolkien but he put so much extra fluff in there and it seemed like he was just trying to fill up pages. It was actually kind of a chore to get through because it took so long to get to the point and usually the most interesting parts were rushed.

Only because Back to the Future trilogy is dear in my hear, I'd change the ending in part III. Once marty avoided the car crash with a street drag racing with Flea and the fax that says "you're fired" disappeared, that should be the end of it. We don't need Doc, who have repeatedly said time machine is something he wishes he didn't invent, came back from the west with an even better and bigger time machine to explain why that fax disappeared. Doc had always wanted to go back and live in the old west, then once Martin came back, Doc's wishes have already came true.

Remove Tom Cruise from Legend somehow. I would even be OK with them replacing him with Hayden Christiansen.

I don't know, I think doing an "I'm gay" joke was dated even back in 2000. I get what you're saying, but the delivery of the joke is off, and seems to rely on little more than the idea that someone being gay is hilarious.

And I'm doubtful the Seinfeld plane scene was shot after the Almost Famous one. The last episode of Seinfeld aired in mid 1998, Almost Famous came out in late 2000 (not that there's anything wrong with that)

Maybe I'm remembering wrong but wasn't the Almost Famous joke loosely based on a similar event with one of the bands Crowe was following at the time?

That would be Lynyrd Skynrd, but Crowe was unable to make it half as funny as the real like inspiration.

Crowe mentions in the commentary that he wanted to have a plane almost go down but pull out of it at the last minute. He said he'd never seen that done in a movie before. He then mentions how the Seinfeld finale burst his bubble because they managed to beat him to the punch with the same idea.

Legend needs one more action scene between the group starting their mission and them reaching the castle and the Meg Mecklebones sequence should have been longer.

Saving Private Ryan. Melish (sp?) lives, Upham dies.

Recast the leading man in Ladyhawke. Rutger Hauer just had no chemistry with anyone. The rest of the film was great but Hauer just does failed in the role imo.

I don't know how someone can dislike a movie simply because they hate a character that was intended to be an annoyance.

Chris Tucker was fine in the role.


I don't mind this ending as it gave Marty and Doc closure. However, the ending of Part 2 has always bugged the hell out of me. The movie should have faded to the "To Be Continued" right after Marty tries to contact Doc on the walkie-talkie. None of that "show scenes from the next movie" BS.

I hate you guys so much. That Almost Famous moment is classic.

My point was only that Fallon sucked in his role and delivered his line like it was an SNL sketch. Disagree?

Maybe but it was intended to be at least somewhat humorous. I mean a revelation like the dude in Rockstar with Marky Mark wouldn't have fit. Not a fan of the movie but that dude's "I'm gay" revelation was actually pretty emotional and well done.

Could he have done the line better and still make it humorous? Probably but I didn't think it was that bad.