Solid Snake

I'm sorry but a SW teaser for the ST doesn't need Han, Chewie, or whomever else of the old cast to sell SW. It's fucking SW. It sells itself.

Mike86

I never said they were the only selling point but they are a pretty big selling point to a lot of fans. I don't think it's right to sell the original cast short. I don't think it's just that they're trying to appease fans who didn't like the Prequel Trilogy, but at the same time Disney isn't stupid and they know that for a lot of Original Trilogy fans bring back the main three characters is a huge deal. Yes Star Wars is a huge brand and I've never debated that it can't sell itself but adding those characters back to the mix for a lot of us makes it even bigger. The two people who are seemingly willing to write off their importance are two posters who are admittedly not big fans in general.

Solid Snake

Not sure if I'm one of the two people or not but... it's a fucking teaser. I'm sure we'll get a bigger bang for the following trailers. You want to tease what you have. We still have a very long time for its release. The teaser this early teases the brand, its world and the new while reflecting the old imagery as well. Could it have the cast? Sure. But it's not needed.

I care about movies. I don't care about franchises. I look at it objectively. Even if I'm a fan of the properties.

Mike86

I wasn't talking just about in the teaser but their role in the film as a whole.

Sean O'Hara

I'm sure that and his smooth persona are why they chose Billy D. over the other black actors of the period, but the decision to make Lando black was definitely a response to criticism about the first film being so white.

DaveyJoe

Hey, I love the OT like everybody else here. I'm just satisfied with the three good films that revolved around those characters. I am disappointed with the general lack of good science fiction films, and I'd hate to see the biggest sci-fi franchise repeat itself over and over again. The PT was riddled with little winks and nods to the audience, and inserted old characters that really didn't add to the story. I don't want to see that happen in the new movies. If I want to be reminded about how great a character Han Solo is, I'll watch the original movies. Now I'm ready for new characters.

hanshotfirst1138

Is it wrong that I know that your avatar is a kaiju called Guilala?

Dr. DVD

Any word on when the new toys will hit shelves? I think it would be cool if they waited until Black Friday to unveil them, and by that I mean not before 12:01AM on that Friday, not Thanksgiving night.

islandclaws

"Wait to unveil"? As soon as a single pic of them is shown anywhere it'll be all over the internet.

Mike86

I wonder when the figures will actually be revealed. Toy Fair just happened a couple weeks ago and nothing from the new film was shown that I remember. I'm assuming things are being kept under wraps a while longer (maybe until Disney releases the first full trailer) and should be fully announced around San Diego Comic Con. I would think they'd be out by November for Christmas shopping. Maybe even October.

The Valeyard

Nerd.

DaveyJoe

Nothing wrong with that. The X From Outer Space is one of my favorite kaiju films.

Solid Snake

I've been staring at that avatar for a while wondering wtf that is from. Everytime I see it... I can never guess what it is from. Now I know.

DaveyJoe

Click on the link in my signature to see it in action.

hanshotfirst1138

I read all about it when I was an obsessed tokusatsu fan in my youth, but never found any grungy old VHS tapes of it. Maybe I should check out Criterion's Eclipse set with it on it....

Do they include the dub?

Hazel Motes

Didn't J.J Abrams fire Michael Arndt specifically because he wasn't writing big enough roles for Leia, Han and Luke and was concentrating too much on the new characters?

All this talk about glorified cameos for the OT characters just doesn't hold weight. J.J knows what the fans want, the studio knows what the fans want. There's no way we get Charlie Sheen Wall Street 2 cameos for the OT cast. This isn't George Lucas running the show. People seem to forget that.

My guess is that Han has the biggest role in VII and probably dies. With Luke probably having a good sized role in all 3. Not sure what they'll do with Leia. I have a feeling it'll depend on how together Carrie Fischer can keep it.

Throwing Copper

It'd be pretty cool if they had her smoking one of those electronic vapor cigarettes & maybe having a breakdown on film.

Josh-da-man

They might unveil a few figures/new characters over the summer convention season, but I would wager that most won't be revealed until closer to release date.

DaveyJoe

No dub, just the original Japanese audio, but it's a good set, I liked all of the films in it.

Matt

September 4, apparently.

Pretty good chance we'll see some new stuff out of the Star Wars Celebration in Anaheim next month.

If not then, then definitely SDCC in July.

Timber

If it was Lucas running the show the OT characters would have been recasts and he would have gone back and inserted those new actors into the OT and released it as the definitive version.

Guru Askew

Yeah Lucas definitely went crazy recasting those parts played by old, dead men.

Its always nice when people literally make things up about Lucas. He brought back Ian McDiarmid, Anthony Daniels, Kenny Baker, Frank Oz, James Earl Jones and Peter Mayhew. Every character he recast in the PT had an obvious need for recasting. Are you suggesting that they should brought back an 86-year-old Phil Brown to play the young Uncle Owen? He's the only one who was even living when his part was recast. And then you have to imagine him cradling an adult Mark Hamill as well. I'm sure Hamill and Carrie Fisher were incensed over being passed as the newborn twins.

The only two people who would even have a half-credible claim to being recast would be David Prowse and Jeremy Bulloch and I think hauling Prowse in to wear the suit that obscures him entirely would have been the ultimate in meaningless fan service.

So basically you're mad that a small British senior citizen didn't play Jango Fett and the Clonetroopers.

Obi-Wanma

^Although I think it was probably made in jest, I think the comment was more referencing things like inserting Hayden Christiansen and Temuera Morrison into the OT

Mike86

No shit, talk about taking an off-handed remark way seriously. I guess someone has to be Lucas' defender on these boards though.

hanshotfirst1138

I have no problem with the actors in the PT. As it was set decades before, using the same actors wouldn't have made any sense. Now, putting in my DVD of ROTJ and finding Hayden Christanson's face? That I'm less OK with.