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Old 08-07-18, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fujishig
Nobody seems to know for sure, but the pattern seems to be:

Matinees show up in the mornings, disappear by mid day.
Post 7pm shows show up, disappear by 6 or so.

I think there's an allotment that they just go through really quickly and once it's gone, too bad for everyone else. Others seem to think it's some kind of scam and they're doing this to show investors they're still in business but otherwise are just minimizing the number of people that can use it. Etheaters are unaffected.
The closest E-Theater is 48 miles away according to the app.

That wouldn't be so much of a problem if you didn't have to be near the theater to check in. But to drive over in the morning to check in, then go back is pretty much a subtle F-you to the subscriber base. The 3 limit is no problem for me since I have to see more than 3 anyway. I'm barely using my 1 per month to break even.
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You don't have to be near an e-ticketing theater to check in and reserve your tickets. You can do it from your home (or anywhere)
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Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni
You don't have to be near an e-ticketing theater to check in and reserve your tickets. You can do it from your home (or anywhere)
Yes but I'm not going to drive 48 miles to use one and I'm not going to go to the theater in the morning then go back at movie time. Many of these are last minute decisions.
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Originally Posted by JimRochester
Yes but I'm not going to drive 48 miles to use one and I'm not going to go to the theater in the morning then go back at movie time. Many of these are last minute decisions.
That does contradict your earlier comment:
The closest E-Theater is 48 miles away according to the app.

That wouldn't be so much of a problem if you didn't have to be near the theater to check in.
You kind of implied that the 48-mile drive would be marginally acceptable if you could check in from home. It sounds like you can.
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I think what he meant is that the disappearing showtimes wouldn't be a problem if you didn't need to be near the theater to check in. Like you could lock in your ticket, drive down, and be sure you got it. Not that he wanted to lock in a ticket and drive 50 miles (which is ridiculous), plus the eticketed theaters don't have disappearing showtimes anyway. The way he worded it is a bit confusing but he was responding to my post.

Like I said before, if you have an eticket theater near you, this is still a killer deal because those are immune from such shenanigans, probably due to the contracts.
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Originally Posted by JimRochester
Yes but I'm not going to drive 48 miles to use one and I'm not going to go to the theater in the morning then go back at movie time. Many of these are last minute decisions.
You don't have to go twice. You can reserve an e-ticket at 8 in the morning from your bed. The ticket is bought and paid for at that time. Then you can pick it up right before the show and walk in.
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re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]

Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni
You don't have to go twice. You can reserve an e-ticket at 8 in the morning from your bed. The ticket is bought and paid for at that time. Then you can pick it up right before the show and walk in.
He's not talking about doing that. He's got 2 separate things going on there...

1. He's not driving 48 miles to use the e-ticketing feature, period.
2. He'd like to use the local theater option (no e-ticketing), but with the disappearing showtimes it's difficult to plan around. Doesn't want to drive to the theater, check-in, then go back.
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Yeah, I’m not spending $10 in gas and wasting two hours or more driving to see a free movie either. On my way home or 10 miles is about as far as I’ll drive.
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Originally Posted by The Cow
He's not talking about doing that. He's got 2 separate things going on there...

1. He's not driving 48 miles to use the e-ticketing feature, period.
2. He'd like to use the local theater option (no e-ticketing), but with the disappearing showtimes it's difficult to plan around. Doesn't want to drive to the theater, check-in, then go back.
Yes, sorry I was not clear in my explanation, but The Cow has it right.
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Originally Posted by dex14
They're busy with other things...

MoviePass Films Sets First Pic: Bruce Willis To Star In í10 Minutes Goneí
https://deadline.com/2018/08/moviepa...ne-1202441596/


How can this still be happening?
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It's still early, but they're hovering at slightly over 6 cents.

The reaction for the changes this week from I what I can has been mostly negative. Glance over at their social media pages and it's endless people saying that they're done, cancelling etc.

I have to imagine with them wanting to weave out heavy users, they're going to take a hit on their alleged "3M" subscribers.
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The app is showing matinee showings of Eighth Grade for me now after I downloaded the most recent Android update. I'm going to try to use it for an 12pm showing tomorrow.
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How is this going to get their burn to near 0? Even if every Moviepass customer only sees on average one movie (which he claims will happen IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE TOP 15%), they lose money.

Also you can't tout that you're responsible for this surge in theater going and then claim that users will only see one movie on average anyway.
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Originally Posted by fujishig
How is this going to get their burn to near 0? Even if every Moviepass customer only sees on average one movie (which he claims will happen IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE TOP 15%), they lose money.
How does Sinemia stay in business?
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How does Sinemia stay in business?
Don't they jack up the price to some absurd amount after a year? I doubt they're making money with the discounted subscriptions either.

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Ok, I looked it up:

https://www.wired.com/story/moviepass-rival-sinemia/
It also may make more sense for the industry. While major theater chains like AMC have decried MoviePass as ill-fated and reckless, Sinemia CEO Rifat Oguz says that his company became sustainable this year, thanks to deliberate pricing, and forging the kind of partnerships in Europe that have so eluded MoviePass stateside.

"In Europe we have almost all the movie theaters partner with us, and almost all the studios," says Oguz. Overseas, Sinemia has partnerships that include shared concession revenue, deals with local restaurants, and so on. "They partner with us because we actually help them gain more."
Sinemia’s financial situation is more opaque, but Oguz says last year it saw a positive gross margin, and this year it has seen positive earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization, an important indicator of a company’s financial health. He’s hoping to replicate the model that has worked so well in Europe around the world.

The one exception? The unlimited plan. Sinemia has one, in Europe, but it’s priced at the cost of 3.5 movies per month. "I'm an engineer. I live by the numbers," says Oguz, whose previous career was managing payment card processors for banking and telecommunications companies. And the numbers tell him that a sustainable unlimited plan in the US would realistically cost more than three times what MoviePass charges.
So the non unlimited plans probably bring them some profit in Europe where they have partnerships with the theaters, I'm not sure what happens in the US but Moviepass kind of forced their hand anyway. But the bottom line is that they seem to be finally making money in Europe, where they started.

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Originally Posted by fujishig
Don't they jack up the price to some absurd amount after a year? I doubt they're making money with the discounted subscriptions either.

edited to add:
Ok, I looked it up:

https://www.wired.com/story/moviepass-rival-sinemia/




So the non unlimited plans probably bring them some profit in Europe where they have partnerships with the theaters, I'm not sure what happens in the US but Moviepass kind of forced their hand anyway. But the bottom line is that they seem to be finally making money in Europe, where they started.
This proves that this business model can work.
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Now the company will go under tomorrow.
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Woke up this morning to an app where all times are selectable and no movies are blocked (like M:I - Fallout and Christopher Robin)... looks like Iím seeing a movie today.
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Woke up this morning to an app where all times are selectable and no movies are blocked (like M:I - Fallout and Christopher Robin)... looks like Iím seeing a movie today.
Same. 2 days after I broke down and paid for MI We'll see if it holds
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Woke up this morning to an app where all times are selectable and no movies are blocked (like M:I - Fallout and Christopher Robin)... looks like I’m seeing a movie today.
Don't be surprised if by the time you go they aren't available anymore. I'd try and go as soon as the theatre opens to buy tickets.
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Don't be surprised if by the time you go they aren't available anymore. I'd try and go as soon as the theatre opens to buy tickets.
... and just like that the earliest time is now 3:30pm... but still no blocked movies.

Itís a crapshoot!
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... and just like that the earliest time is now 3:30pm... but still no blocked movies.

It’s a crapshoot!


That's why I'm saying pick a time now and go to the theatre as soon as they open to get your ticket and then go back later for your time. I know that may be a hassle, but that's the only way it seems to be able to actually schedule something with the app these days... especially Thurs-Sun.
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So the Meg isn't blocked?
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So the Meg isn't blocked?
It is as far as I can see. BlacKkKlansman currently isn’t.

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