Sons a bitches!

First of all, I was mocking the director of this remake. Felt on topic to me.

Second, Hey DVD Talk Gold Edition, instead of further derailing a thread you erroneously felt derailed in the first place, send me or another moderator an email if you have a concern, or just report the post.

Funny thing is that Peckinpah condidered himself a Liberal Democrat.

Rod Łurie raped my young adulthood!

Yeah, Lurie's remarks are laughable. They should leave Straw Dogs alone altogether.

And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon.

or an old woman in a wheelchair.

Or a hideous Cronenbergian symbiosis of flesh and machinery, gooey and lesion-ridden and vaguely resembling Tippi Hedren cross-bred with a Big Wheel. Vaginal imagery for everyone!

Ahhh, those were the days.

YAY CGI DEERS!!!!!!!!

I don't think the CGI deer is a big deal. While I'm not exactly entirely pleased w/ a remake of the film...I don't hope to see what I BELIEVE may be the tired cliche of hillbilly bad guys. Trailer was alright, Bosworth isn't annoying me and Marsden seems to be doing good too.

Doesn't look too bad, but I haven't seen the original as it is OOP on DVD.

If I didn't know it was a remake, I think a better title would be "Rednecks on the Rampage."

That's the part I fear...

Descent trailer. The problem for me is that Marsden doesn't fit the role of cowardly schmuck like Dustin Hoffman did.

Do not want.

Fucking love this movie...

I think the Straw Dogs remake looks pretty good. I loved the original, so these things are always fun to see what they come up with, even if it sucks.

For me the original Straw Dogs is a classic due to one scene



that scene confused me enough were everything that came after I was terrified. This movie need that scene. It nneds you to question what you think is happening.

Regardless, Amazon carries the MGM edition for $16.99 via another company. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...4H8D3JEMFDCW7C

Very true, especially since Peckinpah always considered David (Hoffman's character) to be the true villain in the film. Of course the reasoning behind it is fairly misogynistic, but it actually makes a bit of sense. The smile indicates that perhaps the wife actually is enjoying it b/c she wanted it or was being emotionally/sexually repressed by David (again, considered by Peckinpah to the film's villain).

He claims that David provoked all the violence in the film. Of course, the rape is merely provoked by David in the sense that he left his wife in harm's way. So it is fairly paternalistic reasoning, but it doesn't make the film any less of a masterpiece.

This remake seems to be far more simple-minded and actually along the lines of what critics of the original lambasted Peckinpah for, which was for glorifying violence. The remake looks like a simplistic bad men do bad things to nice guy until nice guy doesn't take it any more and becomes an action hero/Home Alone protagonist w/hot oil instead of paint cans.

It would be nice if writers/directors could show some originality, even in a remake, at least simple re-adapt the source novel or something (True Grit)...this is just a pure dumbing down/pc cleansing of a classic film.

I don't get the impression from the text cards in the trailer that the movie is "siding" with James Marsden.

Really? I mean, the whole "Once you're pushed to the limit" bit implies that Mardsen's character is not a violent man, but simply is pushed to a point where violence is necessary. Especially since the entire trailer, generic "evil cue music" and all seems to be marketing the film as Lord of the Flies: Piggy's Revenge. All they needed was a shot of the head hillbilly stepping on Cyclops' glasses as being the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Couple that w/the fact that they cut the trailer so that "Unleash Your Rage" text card immediately follows the line, "He's got some man in him after all." it is not a stretch that the film or at least the trailer is portraying Mardsen's violence as a positive character trait or essentially a redemptive one. The "coward" (earlier quotation from the trailer) grows into a real man and beats the gun-totting hillbilly "real men" at their own real man game. I assume the end of the film will have Mardsen drinking a Coors Light as he rides off into the sunset in a HEMI powered Dodge b/c you know...that would make Straw Dogs a perfect film

Sure, they could simply just be marketing it as this intentionally to dumb it down to get in the mass audience and all, but given the idiot director's comments about how the original was imperfect b/c of the smile (or you know, creating moral ambiguity), I am not giving this the benefit of the doubt.

I think the remake deserves the benefit of the doubt in the sense that the trailer could be all marketing department bullshit. The original film was missmarketed as a revenge fantasy film too.

I'm shocked by how much the remake looks like the original. The stone house, the costumes, everything. If I was doing a remake I'd change the setting. They took it to America, but they changed little else.

Regarding America, Peckinpaugh made a fascinating move by taking the film to Ireland. It takes the film completely outside of the archetypal norms of American action cinema. The script could be very easily done as a western (and ten years earlier would have been done as a western). Sam's brilliance was to make it in modern times and in a foriegn environment. Ireland isn't India, but still the viewer and the main character are both outside enough of the society that the situation puts them off balance very quickly. Moving the action to America will be interesting.

On the one hand it may actually be easier for audiences to see the passive aggressive attitude of David as being hostile. But it certainly makes the film more "simplistic". Straw Dogs is a deeply conflicting film. The maker of the remake seems to have been conflicted too. And decided to put things more in "the comfort zone."

I'm not concerned that the drunken gang are stereotype "hill billies". The gang in the original are played very broadly and absurdly too. If anything, that is the biggest and only flaw in the original.

Hey I still like that cliche.

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