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kgrogers1979 03-27-12 07:45 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe (Post 11169259)
Who knows? We don't know much, although weren't there some rumors about some goofy shit like Connors having a whole group of Lizard men doing his bidding?

Yeah, that rumor was based on the action figure line they showed for the movie. It could happen, but action figures aren't always a good judge for the plot. They also showed a Lizardmobile toy, and I am 99.9999999% sure that won't actually appear in the movie.

DaveyJoe 03-27-12 07:46 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
No Lizardmobile, no sale. :mad:

Solid Snake 03-27-12 07:55 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11169234)
If there was a green lizard dick flapping around, it would automatically make it an R-rated movie.

There was only one Lizard in the comics, Curt Connors. Maybe you are thinking of the Stegron, the dinosaur man, who did team up with Lizard once.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9877/asm165.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7876/asm166.jpg

No. There was another lizard. A Lizard clone of sorts. Bigger and more savage. This was during Ben Reilly's time. Talking about Stegron I really like that Savage Land story in Sensational Spider-Man in '96 w/ Kazar was fun.

fumanstan 03-27-12 07:58 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Ditko lizard also looks ugly.

kgrogers1979 03-27-12 08:01 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11169280)
This was during Ben Reilly's time.

Ah. The 90s Clone Saga is when I really started losing interest in Spidey, so I am not too familiar with Ben Reilly's adventures.

Solid Snake 03-27-12 08:04 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
There's some good stuff, I'd say they made Spider-Man a bit more inventive in his actions...just cuz it was Reilly though. I did like some stuff. I was a kid in that time so..the clone saga hate hadn't matured yet. I just kept buying comics to follow on wtf was going on. Turns out..it was a waste of money.

kgrogers1979 03-27-12 08:05 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11169282)
Ditko lizard also looks ugly.

Kids today thinking 60s art was bad. -ohbfrank-

fumanstan 03-27-12 08:34 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11169291)
Kids today thinking 60s art was bad. -ohbfrank-

Comic book nerds thinking anything old is good, and new is bad :rolleyes:

And that's a pretty stupid comment, given you're only 3 years older then I. For what its worth, I think the character looks ugly. Other artwork of his just looks fine to me.

kgrogers1979 03-27-12 08:42 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11169315)
Comic book nerds thinking anything old is good, and new is bad :rolleyes:

Doesn't that really apply to most people, not just comic nerds? Most people are tainted by rose-colored nostalgia glasses and only remember the good things from the past but not the bad.



And that's a pretty stupid comment, given you're only 3 years older then I. For what its worth, I think the character looks ugly. Other artwork of his just looks fine to me.
It was just a joke. I knew you weren't actually a kid. I was just making fun of kids who pick up a Stan Lee comic today and are disgusted by it.

The Valeyard 03-27-12 09:01 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Stegron was bad ass!


Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11169280)
No. There was another lizard. A Lizard clone of sorts. Bigger and more savage. This was during Ben Reilly's time. Talking about Stegron I really like that Savage Land story in Sensational Spider-Man in '96 w/ Kazar was fun.

Maybe you're thinking about The Iguana who fought Spider-Man in the late 70s.

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...x/61940a6e.jpg


An accident that occurred while Dr. Curt Connors was experimenting with a bio-enervator machine upon an ordinary iguana endowed the iguana with part of Connors' lifeforce and memories, as well as the personality and powers of Connors' alter-ego, the Lizard. The Iguana became a human-sized semi-humanoid reptile with superhuman strength, hypnotic powers, and the ability to mentally control other reptiles. The Iguana hypnotized Connors to make him forget what happened. The Iguana would stalk the night, but returned to its normal form during the day and stayed in its cage.[1]

On a field trip with some Empire State University students, the Iguana caused Connors to take it into a darkened reptile house and assumed its humanoid form.[2] The Iguana encountered Spider-Man but fled when exposed to blinding light. Since Connors had regained his memories, the Iguana attempted to hold Connors' family hostage to keep Connors from destroying him.[1] Spider-Man intercepted the Iguana before he could capture Connors' family, as well as Connors who had taken on his Lizard form. However, the Lizard and the Iguana both decided that Spider-Man was a mutual enemy, and tried to destroy him. Spider-Man had retrieved the enervator device and used it on them. Connors reverted to human form, but the Iguana seemed to explode. When last seen, the Iguana had apparently been turned back into a normal iguana.

Solid Snake 03-27-12 09:55 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Nope.

http://www.samruby.com/SpectacularC/...der-Man237.jpg

Not the image I wanted but yeah..this lizard.


Shortly after Connors' apparent death in quicksand during the Lizard's battle with Spider-Man and Warrant, a huge bestial Lizard appeared.[22] Spider-Man (Ben Reilly) realized that not only had the Lizard survived, but this new monstrous transformation seemed to be permanent and the personality of Curt Connors appeared completely lost. However, when this savage mindless Lizard later unexpectedly encountered Dr. Connors himself, Curt became the true Lizard once again and saved his family by killing the "Lizard-clone". It was revealed that the Lizard-clone was a scientific accident resulting from an experimental formula being tested on a piece of the original Lizard's tail, which had then grown into a fully formed second creature.[23]

The Valeyard 03-29-12 12:17 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
I have that comic and don't even remember anything about it!

Mmmmmm. Clone saga......

Dr. DVD 03-29-12 01:31 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11169286)
Ah. The 90s Clone Saga is when I really started losing interest in Spidey, so I am not too familiar with Ben Reilly's adventures.

Not only did I lose interest in Spider-Man but Marvel comics altogether. The Clone Saga coincided with the Onslaught deal, which turned the entire Marvel Universe on its head and made it impossible to follow. This was about the time I was in my early days of college and got heavy into Image titles and Spawn, that phase passed as well.

Dr. DVD 03-29-12 01:36 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11169431)
Nope.

http://www.samruby.com/SpectacularC/...der-Man237.jpg

Not the image I wanted but yeah..this lizard.

P.S. The mystery man in that photo is
Spoiler:
Peter Parker
;)

devilshalo 03-29-12 02:43 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11169268)
Yeah, that rumor was based on the action figure line they showed for the movie. It could happen, but action figures aren't always a good judge for the plot. They also showed a Lizardmobile toy, and I am 99.9999999% sure that won't actually appear in the movie.

Spoiler:
Connors' lizard does try to turn everyone into a lizard counterpart. Still not sure why. The fight atop the building is to deactivate/destroy the device he's using to spray the lizard gas.

Dr. DVD 03-29-12 03:45 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
I seem to recall reading that
Spoiler:
such was a subplot in the Spider-Man 3 video game. Except there he somewhat succeeds and Spidey\you have to track down and fight the infected ones.

devilshalo 03-29-12 04:22 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11171795)
I seem to recall reading that
Spoiler:
such was a subplot in the Spider-Man 3 video game. Except there he somewhat succeeds and Spidey\you have to track down and fight the infected ones.

Spoiler:
He sort of succeeds with a handful of cops, but Spidey is able to neutralize the lizard spray by popping an antidote into the serum as the device starts to spray the city.

kgrogers1979 03-29-12 04:49 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11171587)
Not only did I lose interest in Spider-Man but Marvel comics altogether. The Clone Saga coincided with the Onslaught deal, which turned the entire Marvel Universe on its head and made it impossible to follow. This was about the time I was in my early days of college and got heavy into Image titles and Spawn, that phase passed as well.

I always found it hilariously ironic that as Onslaught was killing off half the Marvel universe, half the Marvel readership quit buying.



Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11171594)
P.S. The mystery man in that photo is
Spoiler:
Peter Parker
;)

I never even read that comic, but that was my first guess actually since it looks exactly like him and I knew it was Ben Reilly in the Spidey suit.



Originally Posted by devilshalo (Post 11171710)
Spoiler:
Connors' lizard does try to turn everyone into a lizard counterpart. Still not sure why. The fight atop the building is to deactivate/destroy the device he's using to spray the lizard gas.

Spoiler:
In the comics, Lizard wanted to destroy humanity and let the reptiles rule the world again. I guess if he finally realizes he can't destroy humanity, the next best thing is to turn them all into reptiles?

It still doesn't make much sense, because as the Lizard he isn't supposed to have Connors' brain. He is solely the Lizard personality and Connors is gone completely. So how is he intelligent enough to make a "lizard gas?" Does movie Lizard actually retain Connors' intelligence?

Solid Snake 03-29-12 08:52 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11171866)
I always found it hilariously ironic that as Onslaught was killing off half the Marvel universe, half the Marvel readership quit buying.




I never even read that comic, but that was my first guess actually since it looks exactly like him and I knew it was Ben Reilly in the Spidey suit.




Spoiler:
In the comics, Lizard wanted to destroy humanity and let the reptiles rule the world again. I guess if he finally realizes he can't destroy humanity, the next best thing is to turn them all into reptiles?

It still doesn't make much sense, because as the Lizard he isn't supposed to have Connors' brain. He is solely the Lizard personality and Connors is gone completely. So how is he intelligent enough to make a "lizard gas?" Does movie Lizard actually retain Connors' intelligence?

They're one and the same I believe. He's an actually baddie all the way through...which makes me sad. I don't like that for Connors.

resinrats 03-30-12 01:07 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11158648)
Joe Chill killed Thomas and Martha Wayne and Uncle Ben too? Whoa.

They should make a joke of Joe Chill & say he is the one that caused Krypton's destruction as well. He'll disable the safty device in the new FF movie so they are exposed to cosmic rays. :D

kgrogers1979 03-30-12 02:23 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by resinrats (Post 11172838)
They should make a joke of Joe Chill & say he is the one that caused Krypton's destruction as well. He'll disable the safty device in the new FF movie so they are exposed to cosmic rays. :D

There was a comic one time where Jor-El sent a probe to Earth when he was trying to find a new home planet for Kal-El and the probe encountered Thomas Wayne. That's right. Jor-El and Thomas Wayne actually met and talked. It was a crappy comic and thankfully it was never brought up again in any other comic.

Sonic 04-03-12 12:16 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
New pic:

http://imghaven.com/images/27878

Full size spoilersized


Solid Snake 04-03-12 01:11 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Yeah, I really dig it.

kgrogers1979 04-03-12 05:22 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Hooray for mechanical webshooters :banana:

Raimi's organic webs were so stupid. :mad:

DonnachaOne 04-03-12 05:47 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Not this about the organic webshooters again... the pro-mechanical webshooter rabble lost that argument, hard, ten years ago; don't tell me it still stings.


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