I like "Predator 2".

It gave Bill Paxton a chance to be offed by a Predator, so he could be the only person to be killed by an Terminator, Alien, and Predator*.

It may not be as great as the original, but (from what I've heard) the AVP movies make it look like the best movie ever made.



*Bishop was never offed by an alien, unless Lance was in the AVP movies and one of each offed him in different films....then I guess he's the 2nd person to be offed by all three.

Although the first is my absolute favorite, I love Predator 2.

I actually liked both AvP films, so of course I will also see this.

What ever happened to that Pride and Predator?

Anyone who has seen either of them will tell you that's not too hard.

I've done good to totally ignore the AVP movies.

I actually like the AVP movies. They are pretty much action without plot, but if you go in expecting that they are tolerable. The one thing that bothers me is that in the series the aliens gestation time is like 15 minutes which completely changes the impact of the what happens next factor in Alien.

I don't know. One of the things I loved about Predator 2 was the fact that they made a point of having the Predator look different. The Pred in 2 was a younger Pred compared to the one in P1 so he looked different. Besides, Predators don't all look the same just like humans don't all look alike.

If nothing else, both AVP 1 and 2 gave us Preds with looks that followed their hunting experiences.

I'm not against a variety of looks for the Predators. My gripe with the predators in AVP 1 and 2 is that they were rather cheap looking compared to the well designed Aliens. Just look at the when the lead Predator takes off his mask at the end of AVP and compare it to the face of the one from the first Predator movie. It's a huge step back.

Uh...it was crap action. yeah...

And you can't really see anything in AVP:R. The day scenes look like night scenes and the night scenes look like I'm sitting in my living room with the lights off while listening to a radio play.

I liked the the Predator in "2" was less experienced and younger, it also expanded upon the "toys" at their disposal.

I thought the end of "Predator 2" showed this, when a bunch de-cloaked in the ship.

I think the biggest beef I have with the AVP movies (so I've heard) is that they put the aliens on Earth before Ripley ever encounters them. I thought the whole point of "Alien" was supposed to show the first contact with them?

Actually, having the Aliens on earth in such a secluded area as to keep the existance of the xenomorphs known to only a select few was the only thing the first AVP did right.

In Alien there was a definite vibe that the Weyland/Yutani corporation knew exactly what Dallas and his crew would find. So having Weyland in AVP sending out a team to the arctic and encountering the Xenomorphs was a good idea. Unfortunately, they screw up the gestation period (which could have been fixed had they said Weyland sent another team and they never reported back) and they killed off Weyland for pure shock value, given at that point it was assumed he'd be the one to start his company's interest in the Xenomophs. Of course, Ms. Yutani from AVP:R was meant to appear at the end of the first movie and keep all the evidence with the company.

Although she did appear in AVP:R, Ms. Yutani's cameo was pretty pointless and silly. But so was the rest of that sequel.

I guess it just burns because having aliens on Earth was this big huge thing, and then it gets placed in a sub-par sequel.

What I don't understand is this: How can "the company" remember the xenomorphs over the course of 100 years (AVP takes place in 2005, right?) and yet in "Aliens", they have completely forgot about them over the course of 57 years?

The colony is there on the planet, probably been there for a good number of years (to make the atmosphere), but nobody stumbles upon the ship until Burk sends someone to it after Ripley tells her story.

That's more a goof in James Cameron's script. In the first movie the android (I forgot his name) made it pretty clear he was to take the alien back with him and leave the crew to die if need be. In the sequel, they still want the xenomorphs but weren't aware that Dallas and crew did indeed get it. Though they obviously suspected as much. I doubt they would be so hellbent to find the xenomorphs based soley on Ripley's story. She simply confirmed what they always suspected.

Of course, that still leaves the hole you mentioned. Yes, there was a cut sequence where Newt's parents find the space jockey's ship but it's unikely it took so long to find and that the company would wait so long to investigate on their own. Nevertheless, Aliens is lightyears ahead of the clusterfucks AVP and AVP:R turned out to be.

From Bloody Disgusting:

I guess the cat is out of the bag as Danny Trejo has been telling attendees of the HorrorFind Weekend that he's set to star in Nimrod Antal's Predator remake, Predators, which is being produced by Robert Rodriguez's Troublemaker Studios for 20th Century Fox. No word on what his role will be just yet. In this version, a group of humans will find themselves stranded on a planet home to Predators and must survive the horrors they encounter. James Cameron pulled a similar move with his advancement of the "Alien" franchise in his "Aliens." Fox hopes to get this in theaters by July 9, 2010.

So Aliens is being remade by the Predator franchise? AvP was not enough to rape the Alien movies that they must do this?

it will be rated PG-13.

My assumption was that "the company" had seen the xenomorphs somewhere else but, perhaps, was not able to get one. Which is why Ash (the android) was sent to do that. I don't think I would have ever suspected that the aliens were here on Earth when the Weyland-Yutani corporation was founded..

It does seem possible that Weyland-Yutani "forgot" about the Nostromo going to that planet, and that Ripley saying "we found a ship with eggs in it" on a planet already colonized was a lucky break, but nobody already finding the ship still seems odd.

I always assumed that Weyland-Yutani were basically burying the truth and pretending that the issue with the Nostromo never happened. If Ash never returned I think they would have assumed there would not be an issue.

Which is why saying that Weyland-Yutani first encountered xenomorphs on Earth isn't a bad idea. They probably spent the last 100 years scouring the planet in vain before the crew of Nostromo made their discovery. Sadly, such a theory falls appart when not only does Mr. Weyland himself die but no one from Weyland-Yutani possesses knowledge of their existence.

Hell, am I even supposed to believe that Saana Lathan's character didn't freeze to death after the Predators abandoned her in the Arctic (with no thermal protection to boot). Worse still, assuming she was rescued, what became of the Queen frozen in the arctic? Then again, that thread could have been used for the proposed Alien sequel where Earth was to have been overrun by Xenomorphs.

Basically, AVP has way too much squandered potential. And AVP:R pissed all over said potential.

As long as they don't cast a bunch of 20 somethings I'll be happy. No pretty faces (well, except maybe some women)... Trejo fits the bill perfectly, lol.

Yeah, I'm glad Trejo is becoming a leading man of sorts. Fucking awesome.

"Predator: Concrete Jungle" included a reference to Weyland-Yutani (you actually kill a high up official/employee) includes xenomorphs (but they never refer to them by name) and included some references to the Predator movies. I'm leaving some stuff out, but they hardly do too much (story-wise) to mess with anything.

It's pretty goddamn bad when a video game has a better story than two whole movies.

This sounds more and more like it could be legitimately good, now with 100% more Trejo! YES!

As we first reported HERE, Nimród Antal is going to direct PREDATORS for 20th Century Fox and Troublemaker Studios based off a script written by Robert Rodriguez.

Without going into too much detail (Hello! We want you to watch the episode!) PREDATORS is considered a reboot and being fast tracked by 20th Century Fox.

PREDATORS is slated to be released on July 7, 2010.

What's the verdict on the script?

LatinoReview was able to take a peek at the draft dated July 12, 2009.

Also Danny Trejo just mentioned that he will be in the film and we can tell you right now that he will play the character "Cuchillo"

Check out our thoughts below in our latest FIRST LOOK episode as our fall season is off to a solid start (just like the NY football teams).

Latino Review's Spoiler Laiden Script Review

Very interesting listen. Best part: "very bloody, hard-R rated script".