^^And therein lies the meaning of the film's title.

I've been thinking that since "Begins" was more fantasy-based while "TDK" was more grounded, this film will probably be more of a balance. The best elements of both previous films.

That does sound pretty badass.

Sounds like the plot of when Bane first appeared in the comic except it was a different person who took over.

Obligatory post about how JPV should be in this, only completely different from how he was in the comics at all.

Post telling you that we don't need a JPV in this...

Outside of an animated movie, I never want to see JPV in any Batman feature, which may sound weird coming from a huge Azrael fan, but I'm just not sure he "works" real well in live-action... especially not if they just create a completely different character and give them his name.

it would take time to not feel rushed..

A full Knightfall storyline would be fun to see, but that seems like it would have to be a three movie arc in itself, and I don't imagine that happening. I haven't read any of the spoilers here, but I trust this won't be as butchered as the Phoenix Saga was for X3.

I read the Knightfall storyline and ended it when JPV took over. Question:


I think a cool opening would be

Since it's been a while, I'll refer in part to Wikipedia.

I think they'll have more fantastical elements to the film. Much like fear inducing flower intoxins.

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this isn't from the movie or anything, but DC commissioned famous F1 designer to create a Batmobile.





Story is here: http://gizmodo.com/5813107/gordon-mu...ered-batmobile

Worst teaser ever.

Yea, gotta say that's a terrible teaser.

I'm hearing that that teaser is a fake. I'm not saying it is but I think the reaction is too much for it to be real. So....i'm iffy if it's real or not.

Yeah, I'm thinking fake.

Just curious, but how would someone make that? Use an existing bootleg trailer clip as a template and insert their custom shitty teaser over the screen?

the audience reacts to the word 'Gotham' because they realize what movie the teaser is for, and then another reaction to the title. Seems a perfectly reasonable Pavlovian response to me.

If there was massive cheering at the end, that might be a little suspect, but if it's a fake, I think they cued the appropriate canned responses to it.

The only thing that makes me suspicious is- why would they be taking video of the trailers in the first place. Did they expect a trailer for something special? For no other reason, that alone would make it seem to be staged.
The other thought was that someone had made it up and then was playing it back on a home display- so that would help mask the rough edges- but the sound of the people seems to take place in a venue much larger than someones living room or basement- so I'm inclined to believe it's legit.

Besides, based on the response of audiences to the last film, Nolan could make the equivalent of The Phantom Menace and first run audiences will be cheering wildly at every calculated applause line. Any response to any material from this film is going to heavily influenced by anticipation more so than intrinsic quality.

It's a fake.

According to http://batman-news.com:

Not if the trailer ran in front of a midnight showing of Green Lantern. Most fans who show up to midnight screenings are big fans of whatever they're about to watch. A hopped up house ful of comic book folks would most definitely shoot their load over this one.