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Old 06-30-08 | 12:35 PM
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How many of you are old enough to remember the classic Zager and Evans' tune 'In the Year 2525'?
Or just old enough to remember the Season 2 ender of Chris Carter's MILLENNIUM.
Old 06-30-08 | 12:36 PM
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Put me down for someone that didn't care for it. It wasn't bad, but it was ok at best. Weakest of the Pixar movies (and i'm a huge fan of the rest of them) for me.

Theater we went too laughed a few times, but overall didn't react much. There was no applauding.

Not that this matters, but all my friends who took their kids to see it didn't like it either.

If nothing else, I wouldn't take a 3 or under kid. My son is 3 1/2 and he didn't like it at all (keep in mind, he loves all the pixar movies). It just wasn't mean for the very young.

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P.S. The animated short before the main film was an instant classic for me. Best short I've ever seen.
Old 06-30-08 | 01:10 PM
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My daughter will be four at the end of August. She loved it.

And she really enjoyed the short.

She was talking about both until she went to bed.
Old 06-30-08 | 01:46 PM
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so nobody knows why Pixar decided not to debut the Up teaser trailer before Wall-E?
Old 06-30-08 | 02:17 PM
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It's always weird to me how reactions in theaters vary. Because I've read a few people saying their theater was silent throughout most of the film - while others have spoken of "rounds of applause" and so on and so forth.

Personally, the audience in the theater I saw it in laughed throughout (there were a few periods of silence, mainly near the end) - and many applauded at the end. Lots of excited chatter and all that. And about a quarter of the audience stayed through the credits - which is rare, in my experience.

Mind you, the reactions of the audience mean nothing to me (not that I think you were suggesting that they should) - I've enjoyed lots of films that most of the audience seemed to hate, while I've been bored by films that the audience seemed to love. In this case, however, I happened to agree with the audience I saw it with.

Anyways, not a lot of point to this. I've just always found it a little strange how much audience reactions can differ, even among opening weekend audiences.
Yeah. It is weird.

At my theater I attended a SOLD OUT showing of Wall-E.

Only one guy laughed at any parts of the film the entire movie. SERIOUSLY. The rest of the audience, for the entire film, was DEAD SILENT.

Which is really, really weird to behold... I don't think I'd ever experienced something like that before.

Also, only four or five people stayed through the Wall-E credits. Everyone else jumped up to leave and they were gone only a few short moments after it had ended. I was one of the few to stay as I ALWAYS stay through the end credits even if it's a film I dislike.

While I personally feel the message of the movie is pessimistic and downright illogical in it's presentation I am planning on seeing the film a second time. Hopefully I will enjoy it more with a second go at it. Unfortunately, I am sure that I will still think that the writing is weak (especially for a Pixar movie).

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Old 06-30-08 | 02:53 PM
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I forgot about how amazing Presto was. It really screamed Looney Tunes to me. Too bad that it sorta upstaged the main feature.
Old 06-30-08 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RyoHazuki
I forgot about how amazing Presto was. It really screamed Looney Tunes to me.
I posted the same thing.
Old 06-30-08 | 03:44 PM
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At my theater, a fairly full 10:15 showing, there was a steady amount of chuckles throughout the whole film, but no real big major laughs which I didn't mind. It generated a ton of "awwwww" moments though. I still say it was more cute then funny, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Old 06-30-08 | 09:24 PM
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I don't go by audience reaction... I've seen Wall-E twice now, loved it even more the second time, but people literally fell asleep and were snoring both times I've seen it (one was a late show, today was a noon matinee) so it's definitely not for everyone.
Old 06-30-08 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GenPion
Only one guy laughed at any parts of the film the entire movie. SERIOUSLY. The rest of the audience, for the entire film, was DEAD SILENT.

Which is really, really weird to behold... I don't think I'd ever experienced something like that before.
Yeah... that's weird.

Originally Posted by GenPion
While I personally feel the message of the movie is pessimistic and downright illogical in it's presentation I am planning on seeing the film a second time. Hopefully I will enjoy it more with a second go at it.
I agree and I plan on seeing it twice, also.

Originally Posted by GenPion
Unfortunately, I am sure that I will still think that the writing is weak (especially for a Pixar movie).
I think ham-fisted might be a better description. I don't have a problem with morality plays per se (heck, every Pixar flick has a moral) as long as they are subtle about it, but I think Wall•E is a bit heavy-handed compared to other Pixar work. Eve's escape from the magnetic grapple (on what looks like a beached oil tanker) and the consequences are not the least bit subtlety.

For a number of reasons story-wise, I think it would have been better for Wall•E to have rescued Eve, and without the unnecessary destruction portrayed as a consequence of Eve saving herself. (BTW, has anyone else wondered why the "female" lead of a family film is invested with so much firepower and a willingness to use it rather wantonly at the slightest provocation?)

First, it would have softened the movie's rather ham-fisted moral. Eve's destruction of the beached tankers was clearly overkill.

Second, as it stands, it appears she is responding to what amounts to a rather bizarre amalgamation of forlorn puppylove and stalking. Is this any kind of message to send to kids? Having Wall•E rescue Eve would have gone further (from a motivational standpoint) in explaining her subsequent attachment to him.
Old 07-01-08 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon2
Second, as it stands, it appears she is responding to what amounts to a rather bizarre amalgamation of forlorn puppylove and stalking. Is this any kind of message to send to kids? Having Wall•E rescue Eve would have gone further (from a motivational standpoint) in explaining her subsequent attachment to him.
Ok, you are positively reading way too much into this.
Old 07-01-08 | 05:47 AM
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This is my review, courtesy of my MySpace blog. Apologies if there are any spoilers:

Wall-E - ***1/2
Directed by Andrew Stanton

Pixar Animation Studios has brought us movies that rival those that were made during the golden age of Disney Animated Classics. And Wall-E continues that tradition by making a computer animated film with sophistication and style. It's a terrific acheivement, especially considering that many of their past films have been either just as good or better.

In the film, we are taken 700 years into the future, where a robot named Wall-E is cleanign up the trash that has been left by humans. All humans from the Planet Earth now live in the galaxy onboard the Axium, a ship that gives them new life. On Earth, only Wall-E remains. He is alone and he feels it. In fact, the only time he absolutely feels happy is when he comes home and plays around with some of the things he has found, like a Rubik cube or even watching a movie like the 1969 classic Hello Dolly. Then one day, his lonliness is threatened by a sweet robot named EVE, who is sent to find any signs of plant life on the planet. By finding any, it tells the humans in space that they can return to Earth. For Wall-E however, it is love at first sight. When she is given by him a piece of grass, her objective is finished and she must return by ship to the Axium. Wall-E has also hitched a ride with the ship and when he arrives, he discovers that the humans have become overweight and haven't excercised at all.

The characters of Wall-E and EVE have a innocent charm that crosses over to a part of all of us. They feel like fully-realized characters. Even though they never say much, they always feel like they have a real personality that makes us feel what they feel. They in many ways are fish out of water type characters, but their actions and doings never feel out-of character or overblown. They are both created brilliantly. The same can also be said for the humans, especially the captain of the Axium (voiced by Jeff Garlin) who never fails to steal a moment that he is in. And of course what would a Pixar film be without the voice talent of John Ratzenberger (Cliff Clavin from TV's Cheers), here voicing one of the other humans that Wall-E comes into contact with.

But what makes Wall-E as terrific as it is are its moments, many of which are beautiful and well thought out. The best one for me comes in the first half of the film, where we see the various attempts Wall-E tries to capture EVE's heart. Beautifully set to Louis Armstrong's classic version of the standard "La Vie en Rose", this sequence is so well played that it was this moment that absolutely sold me on the high quality of this movie. Credit must be given to director Andrew Stanton for pulling it off, and not just on this moment, but on quite a few others as well, including its excellent finale.

I must also credit Stanton for making the most ballsy discission in Pixar's history: He makes the first 40 minutes or so almost dialogue-free, and manages to keep the film involving and entertaining. The real reason this succeeds is not only its sophisticated approach to this section, but alos because of the characters themselves. We love both Wall-E and EVE, and that makes the movie all the better for it.

Granted, once we leave Earth and arrive on the Axium, it is possible that here is where the fortunes will turn for many moviegoers. For this one however, I was involved all the way through both sections of the film. I actually found many of the scenes that took place herequite interesting. The sppraoch to this section is interesting alone, but whether or not it works will have to be something that you'll have to judge for yourself.

Is Wall-E the best film in the Pixar library? No, there have been better films, but the audacity of this one alone makes it a must-see motion picture for all ages. It is possible you won't be as impressed with this film as I was, but I dare you to at least not to try it. If nothing else, it should be an interesting experiment for anyone who watches it.

NOTE: I must also give mention to the short film that precedes the feature presentation: Presto. A very funny five-minute cartoon that is very funny and absolutely worth your time. Even if you hate Wall-E (which I doubt will happen), I have no doubt that you will love this.
Old 07-01-08 | 06:14 AM
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I know this will never stay like this, but Wall-E is currently #9 on the IMDB Top 250: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910970/
It's #6 now.
Old 07-01-08 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Ok, you are positively reading way too much into this.
No shit.
Old 07-01-08 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon2
Second, as it stands, it appears she is responding to what amounts to a rather bizarre amalgamation of forlorn puppylove and stalking. Is this any kind of message to send to kids? Having Wall•E rescue Eve would have gone further (from a motivational standpoint) in explaining her subsequent attachment to him.
Here be spoilers!

Well, first he saves her from the dust storm and acts a bit goofy. At that point, she "locks down" and he carts her around. She doesn't see him again until they meet in space, at which point he's saved the plant. She kisses him out of happiness for saving the plant but she doesn't end up really liking him until the videos are show of him taking care of her while she's in lock-down mode.

And before all this happens she ignores him for a bit.
Old 07-01-08 | 12:50 PM
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The purpose, I think, of using real humans for the vids was to show how much humans have changed physically since being in space. If you notice, in the captain's quarters, there's a series of pictures of all the ship captains, ranging from a full human and moving slowly to a fully animated picture of the current captain. It was meant to highlight the difference between more active humans and the completely lazy ones.
I noticed this too, but was still distracted with the thought that it was an awful lot of evolution (de-evolution?) to occur in just 700 years.

The only other issue I had with the film was with the other "rogue robots" near the end. I would have liked it for them to have been developed a bit more. As it stands I had a hard time telling what any of them actually did; one was some sort of boxing robot another was a painting robot of some kind, other than that...

Aside from those two very minor issues, I have to say I absolutely loved this movie. I was engrossed from the beginning to the end. The fact that a CGI movie can create a robot character in which I felt genuine emotion for is nothing short of amazing, IMO.
Old 07-01-08 | 01:05 PM
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I couldn't develop much emotion for him. He was too one-dimensional for my tastes, and the silly antics weren't that funny for me. Like much of my theater, I was fighting to stay awake.

If I end up buying the DVD, it will be for the short.
Old 07-01-08 | 01:14 PM
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The most magical moment of the entire movie was the opening sequence...I think Jerry Herman himself put it best in this article:

"I'll tell you that the seat I was in will never be the same," Herman says. "I clutched those two arm rests. I was so thrilled and moved. What a wonderful use — to show a desolate world contrasted with the joy of those lyrics.

Hello, Wall-E, Sings Jerry Herman
I played Dolly in high school, so maybe that's why I felt the use of the song was so special...but those opening images were just amazing. I agree that the second and third acts were weaker than the first, but I REALLY enjoyed the movie and definitely shed a tear or two towards the end.
Old 07-01-08 | 04:01 PM
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At my theater, a fairly full 10:15 showing, there was a steady amount of chuckles throughout the whole film, but no real big major laughs which I didn't mind. It generated a ton of "awwwww" moments though. I still say it was more cute then funny, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Same here, took my Niece and she liked it, Some laughs but this wasnt a comedy and didnt seem like a movie alot of little kids would like as much. I loved it, I just love Wall-e. Hes an awesome design, so much emotion in that little robot, loved all his movements.

Not my favorite Pixar flick but still an excellent flick, There best looking one, so many fantastic looking moments.

8.5/10
Old 07-01-08 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Zee
The most magical moment of the entire movie was the opening sequence...
I've seen the movie three times and the opening sequence is why I keep returning. That desolate world coupled with Michael Crawford's singing, followed by the spooky/odd score as the title appears is one of my favorite moments in film in the past few years.
Old 07-01-08 | 10:17 PM
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Same here, took my Niece and she liked it, Some laughs but this wasnt a comedy and didnt seem like a movie alot of little kids would like as much. I loved it, I just love Wall-e. Hes an awesome design, so much emotion in that little robot, loved all his movements.

Not my favorite Pixar flick but still an excellent flick, There best looking one, so many fantastic looking moments.

8.5/10
I took my entire family this afternoon (me, wife, four kids ages 10 down to 2) and we all enjoyed it quite alot.

It's not my favorite film, but it is very beautiful and extremely detailed (until we get to the people... that's what really bothered me).

Spoiler:
Going from real footage to fat, blobby, 3D was really weird to me.

Even though they tried to use the "Wall of Captains" to help explain it, it was a stretch.


Nice, cute story... a little preachy at the end... but I did enjoy it immensely and will probably see it in the theater again and definitely buy it on Blu-ray.

8.5/10 for me too.



... oh and my favorite part of the film were the end credits and the new-evolution. Great concept. Great execution.
Old 07-01-08 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Zee
The most magical moment of the entire movie was the opening sequence...I think Jerry Herman himself put it best in this article:



I played Dolly in high school, so maybe that's why I felt the use of the song was so special...but those opening images were just amazing. I agree that the second and third acts were weaker than the first, but I REALLY enjoyed the movie and definitely shed a tear or two towards the end.
I agree, I was in total awe of many of the opening vistas.
Old 07-02-08 | 04:08 AM
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Loved Presto, thought Wall E was just okay.

6/10

Things that irked me:

Spoiler:
That the romance of walle and eve was the dorky and nice guy falls for pretty and superior girl. It's considered love because the girl concedes and ends up going out with the dorky nice guy. It's a trend that's been in a lot of romantic comedys and just kind of cliche.

Also wish the defective robots had more character, all the stuff that they did toward the end would have so much more effective if Wall E had spent like 5 minutes getting to know them. Like Mo was given very little screen time, but you ended up loving that character.



Mo was great also.
Old 07-02-08 | 04:11 AM
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I may have to buy this. It actually cleans like it does in the movie. Probably not as well though.
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Just a reminder that, several days before the film opened, by sheer coincidence, I added an Intermission to my long list of "films that are ahead of their time" - and that Intermission is an excerpt from Hello, Dolly!

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=159

I did this because it suddenly dawned on me that Hello, Dolly! (Gene Kelly, 1969) was largely unrecognized as the last and possibly the greatest achievement in movie musicals of the last century, using modern technical advances in the staging and photography of a traditional musical, before the genre almost disappeared.

If I had the energy, I would also add The Incredibles (Brad Bird, 2004), Ratatouille (Brad Bird, Jan Pinkava, 2007) and Wall-E (Andrew Stanton, 2008) to the list for "sheer narrative brilliance and advances in the art of characterization as well as computer animation".

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