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RichC2 07-05-07 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by das Monkey
I hate to ask this, in part because you don't look for logic in a film like this, and because it seems so incredibly stupid that I feel I must have simply missed a line of dialogue, but ... why did they take the AllSpark to the city? I mean, other than the cool special effects potential, of course. Everyone seemed to think it was a great plan, not at all concerned with all the carnage that would almost certainly ensue. Did I miss something?

das

They were trying to escape the Decepticons afaik, and the city just happend to be where they wound up. Of course, by that point, I didn't really care, I just wanted to see more chase sequences (yes, I'm a sucker for Michael Bay chase sequences.)

Doc MacGyver 07-05-07 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by chris_sc77
I liked the first hour of Transformers but when the Transformers fall from the sky like meteors and assemble and start to talk I started to roll my eyes and laugh at how silly this was.

Quite possibly my favorite part of the film.




Originally Posted by needlz
There was even a kid in the theater who started crying when Jazz got ripped apart by Megatron (reminded me how I felt when first seeing Prime get blasted in the original cartoon movie).


Originally Posted by raven56706
same happened in my theater.... people were like... nooooo when that happened to Jazz....

Some A-hole over at Aintitcool just threw that little spoiler out there without any warning, just to be a dick because he was evidentally sexually abused by flames when he was a child, and I was STILL crushed when it happened. Jazz was always one of my favorites, and he was one of the few G1ers to survive past the '86 movie! Very upsetting... (Why does the black guy always get killed?)



Originally Posted by Suprmallet
All I have to say is:

Are you username Ladiesman217? ARE YOU USERNAME LADIESMAN217!?!

Is it possible to laugh and shart yourself from terror at the same time? I loved Barricade and that scene will be quoted among my friends for a while, I'm betting.



Originally Posted by Keith6601
Without a doubt best part to me had to be
Spoiler:
Megatron being thawed out after thousands of years frozen and his first words being "You fail me yet again, Starscream."

:rock2:



-Doc

das Monkey 07-05-07 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by RichC2
They were trying to escape the Decepticons afaik, and the city just happend to be where they wound up.

I don't remember the exact line of dialogue, but it was their plan before leaving the super-secret <s>Area 51</s> Sector 7 base. They didn't just end up there; they were specifically going there. Something to the effect of:

We'll take it into the city and bury it where Megatron can't find it!
Yeah, that's a great plan!
Excellent plan, sir. I can't see any negative consequences from that.
Autobots, roll out!

das

RocShemp 07-05-07 12:39 PM

You didn't miss anything, das Monkey. They just chose the city because, although there would certainly be collateral damage, they were in a walled area (given all the buildings) and the city would afford them plenty of places to hide the Allspark until help arrived. Unfortunately, although the city did afford them the cover they sought, the sheer firepower of Megatron and the other Decepticons proved too much. That said, they would have been wiped out a lot sooner had they chosen to stay on the road with the Allspark.

raven56706 07-05-07 12:42 PM

was megatron when transformed an almost copy of cyclonus...

Superman07 07-05-07 12:44 PM

I think it had to do with getting somewhere that the rest of the military would have more access to. Since the D's were headed to the damn they had to get somewhere else to buy time until they could get more help/get the cube further. Keep in mind at the time it was only Bumblebee. He certainly couldn't take on Megatron by himself (not to mention Starscream).

RocShemp 07-05-07 12:44 PM

Not an exact copy but there were definitely similarities between the vehicle modes of the two, raven56706.

Superman07 07-05-07 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by raven56706
was megatron when transformed an almost copy of cyclonus...

Now that you mention in, he did look a little bit the part.

sinister 07-05-07 01:26 PM

I thought megatron looked like a beefed up silver looking x-wing.

Doc MacGyver 07-05-07 01:37 PM

I did like that when he put his arms together he formed a giant, F-off, Megatron canon.


-Doc

RocShemp 07-05-07 01:53 PM

That was great! I also love Prime's response by just running up and pulling out his own BFG!

Man, I can't wait for the sequel! :D

Giantrobo 07-05-07 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by raven56706
Spoiler:
Maybe since Prime said they were brothers that he might have the same thing.. not sure why.. who knows it might be the step towards the sequel


That's what I was thinking.

Giantrobo 07-05-07 02:09 PM

I thought the scenes with robots flying into and through buildings kicked all kinds of ass. The one(s) with Prime and Megatron were particularly awesome.

deadlax 07-05-07 02:16 PM

Spoiler:
I thought they said something about Mission City and it being 22 miles away from the Hoover Dam, and then all of a sudden they were back in L.A. and Bay made it clear (Paul Hastings Building) that they were in L.A.

RocShemp 07-05-07 02:30 PM

Not only was the shot of Prime and Megatron going through building jaw-dropping, I loved all the details of the people running out of the way from within the building. It was nice to see that these weren't just some empty buildings and there was real danger involved.

C-Mart 07-05-07 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by deadlax
Spoiler:
I thought they said something about Mission City and it being 22 miles away from the Hoover Dam, and then all of a sudden they were back in L.A. and Bay made it clear (Paul Hastings Building) that they were in L.A.

I don't know what the Paul Hastings Building is, though I'm sure that I would recognize it. I've lived in So Cal most of my life, and I didn't readily recognize the area they were fighting in as Los Angeles. - oh, and it wasn't nearly as bad as coming out of the Fontana Speedway and suddenly being on the Long Beach bridge... that scene in Charlie's Angels was by far the worst location cut that I have EVER seen.

As for going to the City in the first place - I thought they were just going to hide the All Spark, but then the military guy told Shia to get to the top of the building for extraction - I don't know if they realized that Starscream and Megatron both could outrun a helicopter - not to mention blast it out of the sky.

RocShemp 07-05-07 03:17 PM

Well, in all fairness, Lennox never got to see Megatron transform. As for Starscream, yes it was quite a gamble to go for the helicopter when you know one of your enemies can take the form of an F-22 (which Lennox did get to see prior to sending Sam off with the Cube). I guess he thought they'd keep the Decepticons distracted long enough for Sam to get the Cube to safety but hadn't counted on Megatron. :shrug:

The Bus 07-05-07 03:39 PM

Was that LA? I know downtown LA isn't exactly Manhattan but the exterior shots made it look like that city had about 7 tall buildings.

DRG 07-05-07 03:41 PM

I hated the robot dialogue at first, by I got over it by rationalizing that, since they learned our language from the Internet, it was sort of like when foreigners learn English from watching American t.v. shows. They pick it up, but it's a little off and cheesy sometimes.

Patman 07-05-07 03:50 PM

According to the HBO First Look special on Transformers, certain spots in Los Angeless got turned into the WWE in broad daylight for the battle royale at the end of the movie.

RocShemp 07-05-07 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by DRG
I hated the robot dialogue at first, by I got over it by rationalizing that, since they learned our language from the Internet, it was sort of like when foreigners learn English from watching American t.v. shows. They pick it up, but it's a little off and cheesy sometimes.

"What's crackin' little bitches?" ;)

RocShemp 07-05-07 03:54 PM

Given the whole interenet angle, I guess Grimlock could become an 80's Russian stereotype if they chose to keep the "Me, Grimlock" type dialogue without making him a comeplete bonehead to explain the speech pattern.

Doc MacGyver 07-05-07 03:58 PM

"Me, Grimlock, kick capitalist pig butt!"



Still not sure how the dinobots are going to fit in with this more (christ, dare I say it?) realistic take on the characters. I mean the logic for their transformations rests on staying hidden... A big, stomping metal godzilla-looking T-rex doesn't really whisper, "Inconspicuous" to me.



-Doc

pinata242 07-05-07 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by DRG
I hated the robot dialogue at first, by I got over it by rationalizing that, since they learned our language from the Internet, it was sort of like when foreigners learn English from watching American t.v. shows. They pick it up, but it's a little off and cheesy sometimes.

Prime saying that they learned our language from the Internet and even Bumblebee having damaged "vocal chords" and only communicating via the radio reminded me of the Junkicons from the 1986 movie and how they only spoke in TV catchphrases.

RocShemp 07-05-07 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
"Me, Grimlock, kick capitalist pig butt!"

That's pretty much what I'm talking about. :lol:


Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
Still not sure how the dinobots are going to fit in with this more (christ, dare I say it?) realistic take on the characters. I mean the logic for their transformations rests on staying hidden... A big, stomping metal godzilla-looking T-rex doesn't really whisper, "Inconspicuous" to me.

That's why I feel they should simply explain that the Dinobots got here either around the time Megatron arrived or before. They were scanning the local life and all that was there were dinosaurs. Get them trapped in ice like Megatron and discovered in the sequel by the Autobots.

I'd love for a similar take on the Insecticons. Except maybe they should mostly be the size of Frenzy so they can be a whole swarm.


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