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Old 05-27-07 | 02:42 PM
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I think you may be right. He looked familiar when I first saw him.
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I think that since he's playing Will Turner's son, it was kind of neat that they hired the same actor that played the younger Will Turner in the first one.


One thing, can't somebody explain to me why people are using spoiler tags in a review thread?

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No, no. I meant the kid at the begging of 3 who starts to sing before he is put up on the gallows. I wasn't referring to the young Will Turner from 1. I think he'd be too young.
Old 05-27-07 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Superman07
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The reason it was only 10 years for Will is because that was the original agreement. Davey screwed himself and it became eternity once he stopped doing his job. This is also why he turned all squid like. This was covered at one point during conversation. Calipso was the tellie if I remember correctly.

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yes that is correct. In the scene where Davey came to her in the cell Calipso told Davey that he lost his path in what he supposed to do. That's why he was locked into it for eternity and also why he became corrupted and hideous.



Just got back from a full 10am Sunday morning showing and I loved this one as much as 1 and 2.
Old 05-27-07 | 05:45 PM
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It was a bit too long, but good.

And I never knew they had orthodontists back then. The kid at the beginning being hung had braces that they didn't even seem to bother trying to cover up.
Old 05-27-07 | 05:46 PM
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I WANTED to love it.. but cant say I did. It was good. It was decent. It was confusing and had things that didnt further the story (calypso, looking at you sweetie).

Some awesome shots of course. Ending (including post credits)annoyed me to no end; but I guess that depends on whether he got off after 10 years or not; I didnt think he did.

I rate it a 'meh+'.
Old 05-27-07 | 06:11 PM
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Only one thing I didn't understand about the ending:

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How come Will and the crew of the Flying Dutchman were human now rather than sea-creature-looking people?
Old 05-27-07 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker
Only one thing I didn't understand about the ending:

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How come Will and the crew of the Flying Dutchman were human now rather than sea-creature-looking people?

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When Jones did his job for 10 years and came back to land for one day and she wasn't there, he sort of stopped doing his job and that is what triggered his change to fishy dude. So do the job as you're told and you'll avoid the fate of getting all fish like
Old 05-27-07 | 07:19 PM
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Just got back - ahh, what a sore bum. It was definitely too long and a bit slow in the middle.

I didn't mind the hanging at the start but the song was extremely annoying. If that's a chapter itself on the dvd, I know I'm skipping that or putting that part on mute.

Special effects, boats, Barbossa, Davy Jones, multiple Jacks and the crabs, frozen sea, etc were all good.

Not happy about the fate of Norrington.
Old 05-27-07 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranger
Not happy about the fate of Norrington.
Easily the worst part of this outing for me. I thought he had some of the best developement in DMC and they kind of wasted it in AWE.
Old 05-27-07 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Zodiac_Speaking
The opening scene is perhaps the darkest in Disney's history, but what did it all mean?

The opening with Singapore had me hanging on every minute but when we get to Davey Jone's locker, I thought the next 45-hou were boring. Actionless, a bit plotless, and Jack's scene with mulit Jacks was a bit long and dare I say, unfunny. This is were most of the trimming could've been done. The final 45 like everyone else, I got back on, and enjoyed it.

I actually felt less for Will and Jack. That did make Elizabeth interesting again, but Davey Jones, Barbossa, and even Chow Yun Fat's character were the ones I was invested in. Calypso storyline as well as the 9 Bretheren storylines were a bit pointless. Calypso was more of an exposition character giving details to fill in what we were seeing and the 9 Bretheren didn't even help in the end. Keith Richards cameo was anti-climatic. Didn't really add anything only more questions.

Some of the gripes people had with DMC, I share in AWE. I enjoyed this series, but 3 is enough. Anymore, and Jack's character will be watered down like Hannibal Lecter was.

Middle part was really dull, save for Gregory Rush, the beginning and end were great.

Grade: B- (My grade C).
I was going to write my own little review but Zodiac pretty much sums up my feelings about the flick. I'll let him do the speaking for me (nyuck nyuck).

Note: I did change my grade of the film to suit me however...
Old 05-27-07 | 08:30 PM
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I liked it quite a bit. Although probably not as much as the last one. The middle was a little slow, but the ending was fantastic and made up for it. Anyway, I'd give it a solid grade of A.
Old 05-28-07 | 03:22 AM
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I was really hungover going into this movie, but enjoyed it quite a bit. It was a good ending to the trilogy, even if it isn't the last movie.

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If Will has been released from being the captain of the Dutchmen, who has taken it over? Why would someone volunteer for a job like that?
Old 05-28-07 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mndtrp
I was really hungover going into this movie, but enjoyed it quite a bit. It was a good ending to the trilogy, even if it isn't the last movie.

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If Will has been released from being the captain of the Dutchmen, who has taken it over? Why would someone volunteer for a job like that?
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I don't think the job in and of itself is a bad job. You're taking souls to the other side. Like Calipso said, Davey Jones became corrupted and in doing so he corrupted the job.
Old 05-28-07 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mndtrp
I was really hungover going into this movie, but enjoyed it quite a bit. It was a good ending to the trilogy, even if it isn't the last movie.

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If Will has been released from being the captain of the Dutchmen, who has taken it over? Why would someone volunteer for a job like that?
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Will wasn't released.He was it at the end and 10 years later. What gave you the idea he was? I am wondering if i missed something...
Old 05-28-07 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
I was going to write my own little review but Zodiac pretty much sums up my feelings about the flick. I'll let him do the speaking for me (nyuck nyuck).

Note: I did change my grade of the film to suit me however...
Reading the review, pretty much have to agree with what Zodiac said also.
Old 05-28-07 | 12:01 PM
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liked it until the ending.... plus i thought this was only a trilogy.... are they planning to make another movie?
Old 05-28-07 | 02:07 PM
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I guess when each installment of a trilogy makes 300-400 mil, there's no way in hell there will be a finite ending until the tanking comes. I doubt we'll ever see another Matrix movie
Old 05-28-07 | 02:29 PM
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Enjoyed the hell out of this movie. Saw it at 10:30 PM last night and it didn't feel long and I never once felt antsy or wanted to check the time.

I have a few complaints that have been mentioned already... the Calypso thing went nowhere, and too many characters went out like a bitch. Norrington and Sao Feng in particular. I was kind of hoping for some sort of redemption for Davy Jones, especially seeing him sans-tentacles. Dissapointed that it didn't happen.

Still, I think I had the most "fun" with this movie out of all them. I found this one the most humorous, but it also had the most exciting action at the same time.

And yeah, the pirate song at the beginning was stupid.
Old 05-28-07 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by scott1598
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Will wasn't released.He was it at the end and 10 years later. What gave you the idea he was? I am wondering if i missed something...
there's some reasons to believe that there is a happy ending there.

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He arrived at sunset, right? Opposed to that being when his one day on land deal would have ended. Not to mention the green flash that was a sign that a soul has returned from the land of the dead.

Based also on the deleted scene that has already been posted and the whole history of the Dutchmen. In Wagner's opera The Flying Dutchman, the captain of the Flying Dutchman is cursed to sail the seas until he can find a woman who will be faithful to him, which lends some credibility to the theory that if she can keep her legs crossed he can get paroled or some shit.

So having Elizabeth actually wait for him in those 10 years unlike what happened with davey jones, it does lead to believe that the curse is broken
Old 05-28-07 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by matrixrok9
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How did the Kraken die? That was a cool aspect in the sequel and they just got rid of it wasn't an important aspect of the story

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Beckett ordered Davey to kill it. Beckett mentions this to Davey in one of the scenes.
Old 05-28-07 | 07:31 PM
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I saw this again. I was pretty tired but even for a mid-afternoon showing it was a bit too slow. This movie needed a got 30 minutes cut out of it. They could've easily released a new director's cut on DVD and BD and it would've sold like hotcakes. The irony is that by cutting the movie down they may have been able to make more money since more showings could be crammed in.

Things that could've been cut down very easily: the entire ice-sea scene. After Sparrow sees the Kraken, they could've had Sao Feng's crew and boat appear. A couple of the inside-the-boat scenes (save for the ones with Beckett) could have been excised. None of these scenes were terrible. But they weren't terribly expository and they're not the most important. Things needed to be cut.

Here's my take on a couple of things: The whole Calypso scene being pointless wasn't., it just seemed to be. William Turner tells her when she "wakes up" about Davey Jones, and that's enough to channel her wrath. The maelstrom keeps the other boats at bay since none want to risk going in.

It would've worked a lot better if a lot of random maelstroms appeared and took care of some of the other boats. I think then the character would've been less anti-climactic.

Robo was right: the Kraken was killed by Davy Jones although it's not explained how. It looks like it just got beached.
Old 05-28-07 | 09:30 PM
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Not the best thing I ever saw, but I was thoroughly entertained...which is all I really ask of this sort of flick.

Geoffrey Rush absolutely STOLE this movie...just chewed the scenery in every scene he was in. Brilliant!

Some cliche hollywood "give me a break" moments, but nothing too distracting.

B+
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I saw this this afternoon and was pleasantly surprised; I enjoyed it more than the last one.

However...

To me this type of movie would actually do better if they didn't have an unlimited budget; I think the way they are able to use probably every cool idea they ever want ends up hurting the film. They have a lot of moments and concepts that are really cool, but they end up stringing so many of them together (a lot of times in one scene) that they end up losing whatever "wow factor" they would have gotten if they just had a few spread out through the course of the film. I'm sure it must have been a lot of fun to think up all of these outrageous ideas and then to be able to actually make them happen, but it ends up not really meaning anything in the end, because the viewer's brain doesn't have enough time to latch onto it.

My best example is the end of the first Mission: Impossible movie, when Tom Cruise jumps from the exploding helicopter to the back of the train. That was the massive signature moment for that movie; they stuck it in all the trailers and it was the big stunt for that sequence (and probably for the whole movie). A moment like that sorta leaves you breathless and afterwards you need a moment to pull back and take it in. Pirates 3 seems like a whole bunch of those moments strung together, sometimes without stopping for 30 minutes at a time. The whole end battle was great and thinking back on it, it had a lot of really cool moments and ideas, but I didn't have a second to absorb and react to any of it, it just kept flying by, seemingly trying to get to the next moment as soon as possible.

Long story short: not enough lead up, not enough payoff, just constant ejaculation.

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I thought the whole point of Beckett's drive in DMC was that he wanted to control Davy Jones so he could control the Kraken (and in turn, control the seas). Why would he kill it off so soon? (and offscreen?) Bad, bad writing. Also, Norrington's demise made me pretty upset. I loved how they built his character up in DMC, and here he's a lapdog and then killed. He didn't even seem all that upset about it. Lazy writing. Also, it's a bad sign that until So Feng said "Welcome to Singapore", there was no way to know where they were (unless you read a review ahead of time). It looked just like every other seedy pirate den in the other films (okay, the hats were different..oooh...). How did they get to Singapore, anyway? They ask Feng for a ship, sooooooo, where's the one they used to travel there?

The multiple-Jack scenes after the Locker segment should have been cut out entirely. They really weren't funny at all, and added nothing, except running time.

Why build up the confrontation between the two fleets and then only have two ships fight? It was hilarious--afterwards, all the pirates are seen cherring and whooping it up. They didn't do a damn thing! Total letdown, plot and action-wise.

The complete anti-climax of the Calypso storyline just really bothered me. The whole film--Calypso this, Calypso that, she'll save us! She'll destroy us! Oh noes! What's that? Oh, she's now a pile of crabs...okay...no, wait, she's a storm...um..oh, she made some lightning and a whirlpool, which, I'll point out, had no effect whatsoever on the aforementioned 2-ship battle besides looking cool in the background. And Davy Jones, the best character to come out of this trilogy, dies in the most Boba Fett fashion since...Boba Fett. LAME.

Won't be buying this one, the replay value for 80% of the film is non-existent.

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Beckett wasn't after the Kraken. He was after The Flying Dutchman and her unkillable crew.
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I will chime in with my short review....

Definitely the weakest of the trilogy. It wasn't horrible, but wasn't great either. I really wanted to love this movie and I was hell hyped for it, but it just didn't pay off. On the flip side of my minor gripes, visually it looked awesome, the action/detail was simply amazing. Singapore looked cool, and the whirlpool was sweet. Also loved the snow/north pole part of the movie as well, would have liked to see some more there.

The Calypso storyline was useless and went nowhere. Very big weak point in the movie. Waste of time/story/CGI in making her big then a damn whirlpool? Lame.

Some of the scenes just drug on and on and on. I was plain bored with some of these scenes and couldn't wait till get to the next one. Jack in the dessert was boring.

Waaaaay too many double crosses, deals, bargains, sub bargins what ever the hell you want to call them, it got tiring. It ended up being just like DMC but worse.

Loved the more Barbossa and less Will. (to some extent)

Loved Rush, Knightley and Depp's performances.

Disliked Fat, Bloom and Harris's performances.

I really disliked all of the Jacks, first with him in the dessert and him in the jail cell, it got tired real quick. And the angel/devil thing was annoying, it really took away from the movie. I get Jack is a little nutty/drunk/weird, but like I said it got annoying and wasn't funny.

Too long, could have shaved off some time.

Overall great fun popcorn flick, enjoyed the ending, but the weakest of the 3.


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