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Old 08-07-07 | 09:03 AM
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How is that supposed to work? Luthor was found guilty and went to prison after the first movie. He breaks out of prison in the second movie and teams up with Zod. The world in the movie is aware what kind of person Luthor truly is. The scheming billonaire Luthor who gets away with everything is not going to work in the movie after all that.

He will use Deibold voting machines to steal the election.
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Old 08-07-07 | 10:39 AM
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Old 08-07-07 | 12:22 PM
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He will use Deibold voting machines to steal the election.
What kind of superhero story would use a dumb plotline like that?
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Old 08-07-07 | 02:51 PM
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Is it too early for a Superman Begins reboot? >_>
Returns almost seemed like the third part of a trilogy to me. (And like most trilogies, it's the weakest chapter. )With the kid introduced as Superman's son, I really can't imagine where the series could go at this point.

I've always wanted to see a Superman movie set in the 1930s. And the actor playing Superman actually looked... well... super. (Some dude so muscular that his earlobes practically have muscles.) The series needs to try something completely different while remaining faithful to the mythos of the character. Otherwise, it will always encourage comparisons to the Donner version. And Donner's version is always going to win. It's just that good.
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Old 08-07-07 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by taffer
How is that supposed to work? Luthor was found guilty and went to prison after the first movie. He breaks out of prison in the second movie and teams up with Zod. The world in the movie is aware what kind of person Luthor truly is. The scheming billonaire Luthor who gets away with everything is not going to work in the movie after all that.
Yes, but you are forgetting that according to the new series -

Lex Luther, a man who killed a cop, who stole two nuclear weapons, launched them in attempt to kill millions for a billion dollar land scheme, then escaped from prison, was seen invading the Daily Planet with Zod and company, responsible for kidnapping Lois Lane, arrested at the North Pole again after trying to kill Superman ....

was simply let go because Superman was not on Earth at the time of his trial, and then had no problems swindling a women out of her fortune, or going unwatched by the government why he attempts land scheme number 2.
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Old 10-22-07 | 12:02 AM
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'Superman' writers won't return
Dougherty, Harris will not pen sequel
By MARC GRASER

'Superman Returns' scribes have opted not to return for sequel.

Superman needs some ideas for what his next adventure might be.

"Superman Returns" scribes Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris have opted not to come back and pen a sequel to the 2006 summer pic that would have reunited them with helmer Bryan Singer. The three also worked together on "X2: X-Men United."

As a result, WB is now taking pitches for Supe's next outing from other scribes -- just as the studio is trying to figure out which actor will don the character's tights in "Justice League."

Industry chatter claimed the studio would start fresh with a new take on the Man of Steel, as if the previous pic never happened.

Reasons mentioned were the introduction of Superman's son with Lois Lane, as well as the film's less-than-expected domestic haul of $200 million and another $191 million overseas.

Marvel Studios is adopting that let's-try-again strategy with "The Hulk" at Universal, hoping a new pic, starring Edward Norton, will launch a franchise that Ang Lee's 2003 actioner failed to do.

But WB denies such plans and said next pic would be a sequel with Brandon Routh likely to wear the "S" on his chest again. Legendary Pictures is co-developing and co-financing the project.

New pic also will up the action quotient, however -- something Singer promised fanboys at last year's Comic-Con in San Diego.

Dougherty and Harris are pursuing more directing gigs, with Dougherty having recently completed "Trick 'R Treat" at WB as his first pic. He's also looking to pen a graphic novel and children's book.

Harris, who had previously helmed "Imaginary Heroes," is writing and directing "I, Lucifer," based on the book, with Daniel Craig attached to star.
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Old 10-22-07 | 12:05 AM
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'Superman' writers won't return
Dougherty, Harris will not pen sequel
By MARC GRASER

'Superman Returns' scribes have opted not to return for sequel.

Superman needs some ideas for what his next adventure might be.

"Superman Returns" scribes Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris have opted not to come back and pen a sequel to the 2006 summer pic that would have reunited them with helmer Bryan Singer. The three also worked together on "X2: X-Men United."

As a result, WB is now taking pitches for Supe's next outing from other scribes -- just as the studio is trying to figure out which actor will don the character's tights in "Justice League."

Industry chatter claimed the studio would start fresh with a new take on the Man of Steel, as if the previous pic never happened.

Reasons mentioned were the introduction of Superman's son with Lois Lane, as well as the film's less-than-expected domestic haul of $200 million and another $191 million overseas.

Marvel Studios is adopting that let's-try-again strategy with "The Hulk" at Universal, hoping a new pic, starring Edward Norton, will launch a franchise that Ang Lee's 2003 actioner failed to do.

But WB denies such plans and said next pic would be a sequel with Brandon Routh likely to wear the "S" on his chest again. Legendary Pictures is co-developing and co-financing the project.

New pic also will up the action quotient, however -- something Singer promised fanboys at last year's Comic-Con in San Diego.

Dougherty and Harris are pursuing more directing gigs, with Dougherty having recently completed "Trick 'R Treat" at WB as his first pic. He's also looking to pen a graphic novel and children's book.

Harris, who had previously helmed "Imaginary Heroes," is writing and directing "I, Lucifer," based on the book, with Daniel Craig attached to star.
Good because they did a horrible job.
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Old 10-22-07 | 12:11 AM
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Please start over, please start over, please start over.

Scrap everyone.
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Old 10-22-07 | 12:31 AM
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That's too bad - "Superman Returns" brought the biggest grin to my face of any movie in the last few years. I'd love to see what the same team would come up with next, though I trust Singer to do as great of a job with the sequel as he did the first time out.
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Old 10-22-07 | 01:28 AM
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I am very surprised that there are rumors about rebooting the franchise but I sure will be glad if it happens.

Really disliked pretty much everything about the previous film. I saw it when it first came out and I vowed to myself that even as a pretty big Superman fan I would never buy the film. Then I gave it another chance on DVD to see if I was being to critical. My first instinct was correct. I was happy to see the plane crash sequence again but that is the only part I may ever feel the need to see again.

I know the Smallville fan in me wants Tom Welling to be in it but the rest of me just wants someone who can freaking act. Brandon Routh did nothing for me in that role. He didn't do the geek role well and he wasn't a charismatic Superman. The rest of the cast did just as little for me.
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Old 10-22-07 | 02:17 AM
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Honestly, I find this disappointing. Like many I was underwhelmed when I saw the film theatrically, but I find myself appreciating it more with each subsequent viewing. I own it on DVD (the big set), and each time I find it on cable I always switch to that channel (I also usually do that for Batman Begins and Harry Potter and the GOF). I was looking forward to the sequel.
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Old 10-22-07 | 02:34 AM
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With Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris gone, there's little hope remaining that a Superman Returns sequel will be any good.
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Old 10-22-07 | 08:10 AM
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Just have Brainiac kill the kid in the first 5 mins, with Supes then ass kicking for 2 hours
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Old 10-22-07 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
With Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris gone, there's little hope remaining that a Superman Returns sequel will be any good.
So the two writers that brought us the uninspired dreary dreck that was "Superman Returns" are now gone, yet the sequel now has no shot of being good?

This is the best news I've heard yet about this franchise!

Keep Routh, lose Spacey, minimize Lois and the kids screentime, and have lots of insane ACTION, and voila. "Superman Re-Returns Again II" will be a smashing success.
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Old 10-22-07 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by stingermck
Just have Brainiac kill the kid in the first 5 mins, with Supes then ass kicking for 2 hours
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Old 10-22-07 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
With Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris gone, there's little hope remaining that a Superman Returns sequel will be any good.
Correction: with them GONE there's a large chance that the sequel WILL be any good.
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Old 10-22-07 | 11:31 AM
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I dont see this happening, but comic write Mark Millar is petitioning for the job.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=133795

In the last few years, writers offering to write projects for free (or at least severely reduced rates) has become more common, with the most recent (until now) being Steve (3 Days of Night) Niles, who claimed he’d write the Hulk for free at Marvel.

Today, with news that Superman Returns screenwriters Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris won’t return for the sequel, reportedly leaving Warner Bros. searching for pitches, another writer has chucked his hat into the “free” ring – Mark (Ultimates, Wanted) Millar.

And he’s already started the ball rolling, according to a post by the creator on his website:

It's 8.58am right now, my guys at CAA get into the office in about seven hours and my call will be waiting for them to talk about this. I want to revamp Superman like Hillary wants thin ankles. Revamping this franchise is what I as given fingers for and so, invited or not, I'm putting my plan together now. I've been asked to work on half a dozen screenplays lately, but this is the only one I have ever truly wanted.

As most here know, I have literally hundreds of pages of notes and sketches just waiting for this opportunity. This would be my dream gig and, as a fan, I know exactly what this project needs to work. This has to be Superman for the 21st Century, keeping everything we adore, but starting from scratch and making the kids love it as much as the 30-somethings. I would honestly write this thing for free.

Anyway, my treatment is being polished as we type. Wish me luck. I want to do that Superman movie we all want to see.

Millar has made no secret of the fact that he’s long wanted to write a or any Superman comic for DC, with his Ultimates collaborator Bryan Hitch on art, however, due to his continued working relationship with Marvel and allegedly due to some of his more controversial comments about DC, there has been no progress on that front.

Millar’s “starting from scratch” comment in regards to a sequel has some basis in the Hollywood rumor mill which Variety claims says that the studio will essentially pull a Hulk onSuperman Returns, that is, ignore or seriously downplay elements from Brian Singer’s movie (itself a “sequel” to Superman II), and start fresh, which is what Marvel is doing with it’s upcoming sequel to Ang Lee’s Hulk. Doing so would allow the franchise to jettison some of the trickier elements of the film, such as Superman’s son.

While the trade says that’s what the industry chatter is, it also dismisses the same rumors, reporting that Warner Bros. denies such plans, and that the Superman Returns sequel will be a sequel in the traditional sense of the word, most likely with Brandon Routh returning in the title role.

Regardless of the form the prospective film will take, we’re sure Millar will keep us updated on his progress. Millar and Hitch's next comic work will be a run on Marvel's Fantastic Four, beginning with issue #554, now scheduled for February.
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Old 10-22-07 | 11:54 AM
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Just have Brainiac kill the kid in the first 5 mins, with Supes then ass kicking for 2 hours
I'm down. Count me as one who thinks this is far from bad news.
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Old 10-22-07 | 12:03 PM
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Just have Brainiac kill the kid in the first 5 mins, with Supes then ass kicking for 2 hours
You joke, I think, but I really think this is what is necessary for the sequel to be good. The first was actually a good story/moral behind the plot (humanity/home/full-circle), and I think if you take this away (kill the kid), you have a lot of options to propell the story and show a darker story.
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Old 10-22-07 | 12:07 PM
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Having just rewatched the original Superman again recently, I can't see where all the hate for returns came from.

Of course, it could just be that it hasn't aged well, at all.
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Old 10-22-07 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TallGuyMe
So the two writers that brought us the uninspired dreary dreck that was "Superman Returns" are now gone, yet the sequel now has no shot of being good?

This is the best news I've heard yet about this franchise!
Not everyone agrees with you
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Old 10-22-07 | 12:24 PM
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You joke, I think, but I really think this is what is necessary for the sequel to be good. The first was actually a good story/moral behind the plot (humanity/home/full-circle), and I think if you take this away (kill the kid), you have a lot of options to propell the story and show a darker story.
Oh I was dead serious, and I agree. I want the kid gone, a credible threat, and Supes kicking ass. With heat vision!
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Old 10-22-07 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TallGuyMe
So the two writers that brought us the uninspired dreary dreck that was "Superman Returns" are now gone, yet the sequel now has no shot of being good?

This is the best news I've heard yet about this franchise!

Keep Routh, lose Spacey, minimize Lois and the kids screentime, and have lots of insane ACTION, and voila. "Superman Re-Returns Again II" will be a smashing success.
I agree....although I might get rid of Routh as well. How they could have botched something as simple as Superman is almost beyond belief. Very few members of that cast and crew deserve to return for another film.
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Old 10-22-07 | 12:40 PM
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I agree....although I might get rid of Routh as well. How they could have botched something as simple as Superman is almost beyond belief. Very few members of that cast and crew deserve to return for another film.
Well if you think about it, there have been more bad Superman movies than good ones. I & II are classics. III & IV are downright awful. And Returns is mediocre at best. And let's not forget all of WB's aborted attempts at resurrecting the Superman franchise before they finally greenlighted Returns.

I agree that it shouldn't be this difficult making a good Superman flick. I think part of the problem is that all the filmmakers who've tackled it recently insist on making the character as dark as Batman when that's not who he is. Thus we're stuck with scenes in Singer's movie where he's stalking Lois or discovering he's been an absentee father.
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Old 10-22-07 | 01:00 PM
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Having just rewatched the original Superman again recently, I can't see where all the hate for returns came from.
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